MONDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2011
Seychelles Goes Back To One Party State
The National Assembly elections last weekend has confirmed that
There were more voters that did not vote for PL which includes spoilt votes, non voters, then those that did vote for PL . Hence, they do not rule with a majority, but they do hold every single seat in National Assembly. This is very communist. It calls for the drafting of a new constitution to reflect the reality that every voice counts. The 3rd Republic has become exposed as being dysfunctional after years and years of cover up by SPPF and SNP leadership.
The PL leadership openly displayed their facial grief on SBC as the results were made Public, when it was announced that their apparent grandiose plan to field a fake opposition, millions of rupees later, apparently, had failed miserably. This is a political BACKFIRE of the highest quality!
Michel even said, he would have liked to have an opposition to debate with since Pierre
You do not get comments that can be more communist then this. It shows how Seychelles
No Opposition Then One Party State
The lack of an opposition now means the PL have caused Seychelles Seychelles Seychelles
Most recently, James Michel was appearing on SBC to be very arrogant and authoritative. We saw him more often then we saw the news presenters themselves. One party state tactics were started to be used again, under his presidency. Example, State House thugs regularly call and harass Freedom Party staff over the good work we are doing to bring unity of purpose in the opposition, and change in Seychelles
The incidences are so numerous, it is not worth mentioning in an article, I would need a Excel spreadsheet to list them all. We will start listing them, and seek damages for them, and seek Michel’s public commitment that it shall also stop, before we move on.
With no opposition, key provisions of the Constitution of Seychelles cannot be operative. The PL will now have no one to debate with as I promised would happen. They will now debate with themselves. As such, it will be conclusive that the one party state culture is alive and well in Seychelles
A New Level of National Shame
Shame has taken a new level for James Michel, who at one point tried to pass F.A. Rene off as a dictator with the diplomatic corps and in private and passed himself off as a reformer , democrat and admirer of the free world. He distant himself with Rene, by whining down meetings with Rene, and saying: “Michel has his own style” in the early days of his assuming the Presidency. I cannot argue with that. His style has now taken Seychelles
In 2004 Michel even referred to himself as: ”President of all Seychellois”. Just the new tenants at Ile Preserverans shows he is the President of just the Communists. Where are the 50% opposition tenants at Ile Preservans, Michel?
Right now, Michel is looking worse then Rene for Seychelles
International Pressure Will Bear Down on Michel
While the PL candidates were using the district offices for a celebration orgy of booze and food, another one party state syndrome at play, they had no clue, that the election results will bring a wrath of critic and pressure upon the PL. Western European states will no longer tell us to give examples of one party state in play. We will tell them to go count red shirts in the National Assembly, and count them at State House. That will be enough.
While they danced and boozed freely on government property as if they owned it, they were in fact bringing greater shame upon their communist party and exposing its one party state fixation that is destroying Seychelles bit by bit, day by day, life by life, because………., we are not FREE.
International Pressure Will Be Painful
No western country will be able to give out assistance to a rouge one party state. We have become a regional pariah overnight under James Michel. As aid is cut, diplomats will start to voice their opinions because their politicians back home will not be able to sustain the syndrome of guilt by association with the PL as they face legitimate elections and their press and people.
We will get less help on our national bankruptcy brought on by Michel himself. Michel knows this. This is why he recklessly pushed the wild card of ZEEDA Party into play.
A country cannot field fake opposition parties. It is treacherous and destructive to the social cohesion of society. Michel has seen this in the “Spoilt Votes” and “No Votes”. It was as if the light bulb clicked finally.
The numbers are enough to drive the sense of respect into his heart . This silent majority, has PL scared for its future. The international community cannot ignore that the PL rule by hook of a perverted system that is no
longer functional for Seychelles Seychelles
This task is not for the novice to orchestrate. Hence, we ask SNP leadership to simply follow our steps so they do not get twisted themselves. We will keep them informed and they can copy and paste if they like. But please, give credit where credit is due. When you take and give no credit, you are acting like communists. It just is not acceptable conduct in the free world. It is shameful and destructive to social cohesion in the opposition community!
After telling us we are in a Democracy for 18 years, and after telling us you believe in the BALLOT BOX, it was nice of you to turn up for a BOYCOTT, finally. Now, you see what kind of progress we can make in quick time when we do not think about our salary and pensions of Sr.32,000.00 for life. Bravo!
We will need to get PL to cancel these pensions for politicians, don’t you think? Let me know how you feel about this.
Massive Economic Depression Ahead
While we face this political calamity created by PL, looming over our heads is a massive economic depression ahead for Seychelles, that will outlast F.A. Rene ‘s life, James Michel life, and perhaps Danny Faure’s life, if they do not take bold steps now in the direction of fostering genuine social cohesion in Seychelles.
Real Social Cohesion
Social cohesion cannot be made by artificial means and gestures that are not sincere. They must be real. The first order of the day in the CC where the Communists deliberate is: 1. STOP THE VICTIMIZATION. 2. You Need a Round Table of all parties to discuss the way forward. 3. You must retire the thugs and killers in your operation that threaten our people everyday, take their guns and knives, charge them with some crimes. Send them to jail for the sake of national PEACE. 4. Finally, disclose all arrangements with ZEEDA Party so it can be wind up, as it is an appendage going no where. It is a bit of a Frankenstein party, created out of the belly of SNP, but fed by the communists. A very strange thing, but Pierre
Then we will take it to the next step.
We will not live in FEAR…… of a failure organization!
One Party State You Want, One Party State
Time To Move On!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
May God Bless All Freedom Loving Seychellois!
By Bernard Georges (Part I)- "THERE IS NO WILL THERE. UNTIL THERE IS, THIS COUNTRY WILL REMAIN DIVIDED” Much has been said during the course of this campaign for the National Assembly elections of the reasons for the opposition boycott of the elections and whether this was a wise decision or not. As one of those who supported – and still support – the decision for the boycott, I feel it is my duty to remind your readers... of the reasons and the justification for the boycott. First and foremost, it is worth reminding people that a political party does not decide to refrain from doing what comes naturally to it, namely contesting elections and participating in the political life of the country, unless there are very good reasons. Second, it is important to realise that leaders in the opposition are not idiots, but mature politicians with huge experience of the political realities of our country. For the most part, these leaders have been active in the political fray for decades and have paid heavily for their action – by denial, imprisonment, and blood. The leaders of the boycott are not children angry at being denied a toy, but mature men and women capable of making reasoned and balanced judgments. In my view, it is only in that context that sceptics can appreciate and understand why these elections are going ahead without the main-stream opposition participating. The 2011 Presidential elections were flawed. They gave victory to one candidate who had been able to marshal advantages denied to his opponents. Everyone realised that unless there was serious electoral reform before the next elections, the outcome of these would – for the same reasons – be equally flawed. The opposition was thus faced with a stark choice – continue as before and participate in a contest which was not fair, or press for urgent and comprehensive reforms before the elections. Naturally, the opposition, being responsible and loyal to the country’s aspirations and to its own principles, chose the latter option. The opposition did not do so in the dark. It made known its requests publicly and repeatedly – in lists of reforms necessary, in press releases, in my comprehensive document called Democracy Delayed and in a motion brought to the National Assembly proposing the establishment of an electoral reform commission comprising all stakeholders.
ReplyDeletePART II - By Bernard Georges
ReplyDeleteTo urge focus on the need for reform, the opposition in the National Assembly used the only tool at its disposal. It made known publicly that it would participate in Assembly work only insofar as that focussed on electoral reform. The government responded to these requests in the following manner: it voted down the motion, it criticised the opposition action and it replaced the electoral commissioner by a 5-member commission. This, in its view, would be the catalyst for the electoral reform. But it did something else which clearly demonstrates that it was not genuine in its talk of reform. It dissolved the Assembly. Faced with the boycott of the polls by the mainstream opposition, the campaign of the government has centred on asking the nation to vote for a National Assembly because it is only with a National Assembly that reform can be implemented. This begs a major question: why, then, was the National Assembly dissolved? The country had an Assembly with some 9 months still to serve. The opposition had made known its commitment to participate in electoral reform. If the government were serious about reform of the electoral process, there was it's chance. It chose, instead, to kill that chance. Why? The answer is simple to anyone but the most obtuse. Either the government is not minded to implement electoral reform at all – other than what it has done – or it didn’t want to do it before the National Assembly elections so that it would go into them with all its advantages. Either way, the opposition had no option, but to refuse to participate in the process. That is the plain and simple truth in this matter. If the government says otherwise, it is not being honest with the people. Why do I say that? Well, for three reasons: The government never implemented any suggested reforms made by the foreign electoral observers until after it had won the Presidential Elections. The government dissolved the National Assembly to avoid having to make reforms before the National Assembly elections. The President is still using State House to make political appearances, as we saw on Sunday evening. There is no will there. Until there is, this country will remain divided. That’s the simple and stark reality. By: Bernard Georges
That is a nice story posted by SNP office.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations.
I have some questions to clear up the ambiguity in the statements I perceive. Please help me and others.
1. What were you doing in the National Assembly all these years, if democracy and reforms were not being delivered?
2. If it was so bad, why did SNP take the pensions they voted along with SPPF PL on the way out?
3. Is it not true, that you mature leaders walked out with pensions for life of Sr. 10,000.00 per month to Sr. 32,000.00 per month, all of you?
4. Is it not true the people walked out with nothing delivered by you as promised after 18 years?
5. For that, is Mr. Georges posting this, to hint that SNP needs 18 more years to deliver?
Is it not true, that SNP is in a twisted conspiracy with SPPF PL to fake democracy for a number of years and fool our people?
How many times has Ramkalawan Georges and company told us we are in a democracy?
How many times has Ramkalawan
Georges and company told us they believe in the Ballot Box?
The answer to these questions, exposes the falsehood of this post part I and part II.
It sounds more like a closing argument to defend a political criminal or gang.
The biggest falsehood is the assertion that the country is divided because of no reforms.
The country has been divided since 1964, before SNP even existed. Before that it was divided on other socio political circumstance before the era of Mancham and Rene.
A little intellectual honesty will go a long way in these lean times, especially on closing arguments.
When we face communists, that take away our freedom, and enslave us, we do not need excuses for failing.
Being victimized, I would have thought, SNP leadership, by now, would have realized, is NORMAL in this game vs. Communism.
We need a plan for results, not a plan for excuses!
Beyond Pathetic.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Part II
ReplyDeleteThis post I made above, exposes, a fundamental difference in the SNP state of mind and the Freedom Party state of mind.
SNP deals in excuses.
SFP deal with the Communist.
Keep on copy and pasting. It makes you guys look a lot better. But please do not do it for 18 more years.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Christopher my friend, one word to describe you: Delusional - or is it dillusional? Either way, you need to come dow from your little cloud and smell the coffee.
ReplyDeleteChristopher my friend, one word to describe you: Delusional - or is it dillusional? Either way, you need to come dow from your little cloud and smell the coffee.
ReplyDeleteThe cut and paste experts are SFP. Chris, keep your mouth shut when you have nothing intelligent to say. On second thoughts, maybe not. Otherwise you will never open your mouth.
ReplyDeletePerhaps it is an SNP volunteer, of which there are very many, who has posted this here and not Arpent Vert. It is true you suffer from delusions.
The cut and paste experts are SFP. Chris, keep your mouth shut when you have nothing intelligent to say. On second thoughts, maybe not. Otherwise you will never open your mouth.
ReplyDeletePerhaps it is an SNP volunteer, of which there are very many, who has posted this here and not Arpent Vert. It is true you suffer from delusions.
The cut and paste experts are SFP. Chris, keep your mouth shut when you have nothing intelligent to say. On second thoughts, maybe not. Otherwise you will never open your mouth.
ReplyDeletePerhaps it is an SNP volunteer, of which there are very many, who has posted this here and not Arpent Vert. It is true you suffer from delusions.
The cut and paste experts are SFP. Chris, keep your mouth shut when you have nothing intelligent to say. On second thoughts, maybe not. Otherwise you will never open your mouth.
ReplyDeletePerhaps it is an SNP volunteer, of which there are very many, who has posted this here and not Arpent Vert. It is true you suffer from delusions.
The cut and paste experts are SFP. Chris, keep your mouth shut when you have nothing intelligent to say. On second thoughts, maybe not. Otherwise you will never open your mouth.
ReplyDeletePerhaps it is an SNP volunteer, of which there are very many, who has posted this here and not Arpent Vert. It is true you suffer from delusions.
So PDM goes to the constitutional court to challenge the outcome of the elections. Is Pierre hoping that the Attorney General will not enthusiastically defend Gappy this time ?
ReplyDeleteInterestingly, Parti Lepep is not going to court on the issue. Yet, if Pierre wins, PDM will get a seat and PL will get two more seats.
Are PDM and PL collaborating on this ? PL will pull the strings for the judges behind the scenes, while PDM fronts the case and the attempt to intimidate the judges. It is hard to see that they have not discussed their strategy.
In fact, the whole premise of Pierre's case is wrong, as reported in Nation. Gappy said the allocation of proportional seats was done on votes cast since 1996. A calculation of the proportional seats since 1996 shows that it was done on votes cast. How can Pierre prove that it was not done on total votes cast ? Pierre must be desperate and trying his luck, or in a sinister way relying on Parti Lepep's bent judges and a corrupt judiciary to get into the national assembly.
Having failed to get into the assembly on people's votes and having been massively rejected by the opposition.
ReplyDeleteGovinden may well want PL and PDM to win. This is a case where he should not represent the Electoral Commission.
But if Gappy loses and the judges say that Gappy did his calculations in the past on valid votes, there will two points to consider.
The judges wil be saying that Gappy lied on SBC and in court. His position will be untenable. The whole electoral commission will be disgraced, along with the man that appointed them.
Even if Gappy got his calculations wrong in the past, it does not mean the mistake should be repeated to please Pierre. It is irrelevant if the calculation was wrong in the past, as long as it is correct for 2011.
The important issue is what does the 1996 constitutional amendment mean by "votes cast". Did it mean just valid votes to be counted for the candidates, or all votes placed in ballot boxes including those deliberately spoilt ?
Any reasonable person would say that "votes cast" means all votes cast in the ballot boxes using valid ballot papers. But we know that Pierre is now an irrational man, seeking an irrational decision from Parti Lepep's judges, knowing that the judges know that Parti Lepep want him to win and that Parti Lepep is the big beneficiary and real petitioner in this case.
No news yet of the 6 goons that PL will put into the national assembly through the back door ? The usual incompetent suspects - Rose, Potter, Herminie - will be joined by who this time ? Friday is the deadline. Wouldn't it be nice if out of embarrassment at the electoral farce they refuse to nominate anyone to this illegitimate assembly ?
ReplyDeleteWhat's for part 3, Gill ? Cut and paste part 1 ?
ReplyDeleteWe really need a psychologist to examine the State of mind of Mr Christopher Gill. It seems that he has the god given right to excuse himself for crossing the floor and other cannot to so.
ReplyDeleteEveryday he talks about united the opposition and at the same time everyday he is bashing SNP supporters and it leadership by calling them pathetic and all sorts of names.
It seems that he has a very short memory that he was also part of this fake democracy he was talking about and he joined SPPF party during his floor crossing to raise his hands on every motion that were proposed during his tenure. Gill A KETTLE CANNOT CALL A TEAPOT BLACK.
It seems that after you failed miserable to hijack the democratic party now you are targeting the SNP party. This will not happen and you will surely get the same predicament has David Pierre. Remember with all your cheap talk you have never tested yourself in any election in the Seychelles. Once you crossed the floor you went into hibernation for a long period of time.
The only conclusion that could be drawn from this irrational behaviors is that Gill is behaving as a parasite, he is trying to get a host to carry him and his political dreams along. So he wants to get into the opposition forum to create division so that he would be able to kidnap the opposition parties.
Be a real leader my friend try to build your own party that you have created whether you like it or not SNP is the biggest opposition party to date in the Seychelles. Your tactics will backfire on you one day. Remember Seychelloise people is looking for genuine leader not politicall ambitious parasite who wants to be in the limelight just by slandering people in opposition to get political mileage. Thanks that SNP never mention your name positively or negatively on their papers. As a supporter of the opposition I think that the SNP leadership will be making another costly mistake by sitting with you in any opposition forum because your ego is too big.
Sorry to tell you that your so call intellectual strategies of slandering will fail big time.
Having joined Parti Lepep, Pierre thought he only had to click his fingers for the Electoral Commission to cave in. Now he is going to court to tell the judges that Gappy has been horrible to him and denied him his place in the national assembly, his title, his salary and pension and denied the pretence of debating against Parti Lepep and the pleasure of cavorting with Marie Louise Potter or Marie-Antoinette Rose, whoever gets in through the back door like him.
ReplyDeleteHe can't get over the fact that UO and Ramkalawan got into the national assembly on less than 10% of votes cast in 1993. He wants the same thing to happen to him, even if the constitution was changed in 1996 by SPPF, at a time when they did not expect traitors like Pierre will betray the opposition and will get less than 10% in future elections.
Having pointed out to us that Parti Lepep will gain two extra seats if Pierre wins, Seychelles Nation should have told us why Parti Lepep is not petitioning the constitutional court. It is not like Parti Lepep to let go what they think belongs to them, being prepared to steal other people's property. Do they want to get the extra seats without being seen to be asking, while Pierre goes out on a limb begging the judges to subvert our constitution in an area where the language and meaning of the constitutional provision are crystal clear ? Pierre is a disgrace.
Good question. Why is parti Lepep not petitioning the constitutional court ? Do they think Gappy is right ?
ReplyDeleteWhy they're nto petitioning? Simple: Because even if Pierre gets his seat + Ramkalawan's salary they'll still be in majority by a landslide so it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteZot kouyon in byen drese.
For God sake stop fighting, we need a viable opposition...
ReplyDeleteReply to SNP Pathetic-
ReplyDeleteAnswer the questions.
That should be simple. Any opposition should answer any question put before it.
If you can answer the questions reasonably, we can all move on.
I humbly submit to you, I take no offence to your offensive comments.
Please focus on the issues.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
GILL VE GEORGES!
ReplyDeleteHow about a televise debate between Gill and Georges on political issues and corruption.
In case SBC is not interested in broadcasting the debate, we can use our own point and shoot or our telephone to capture the event and put it on Youtube.
Rosen
Gill lost his marbles long long ago - assuming that he did have them at some point.
ReplyDeleteHe should stop complaining and show us that Seychellois are behind him: hold a rally. Anywhere. Let's see who turns up.
Reality check-
ReplyDeleteEven Pierre's votes are not his. PL made their own people vote for Pierre to try to get him to 10%.
As I predicted it would happen, they could not manage it well, because you can simply only stage manage an election only so much, before everyone gets drunk and in coherent.
Pierre's real support base was, and I say was, in the area of 1-2% if even that.
Remember, he told us he campaigned and door to doored Mont Buxton for over one year and he polled a bit over 300 votes. That works out to about gaining 100 votes per year. This is a bit less then the number of comments per article here.
When all is said and done, the votes, all of them, belong to the person casting, not to political parties or personalities. This is where we trip up.
What needs to be done, is that we try to think holistic and come up with solid plan and ideas to push the agenda for 1. Democracy, 2. Freedom and 3. Regime Change forward.
At Freedom Party have solid ideas on how that can be done.
But unfortunately, that cannot be done when Wavel Ramkalawan is looking for a tete a tete with James Michel. That is the worse case course of action right now.
It will lead to another BOYCOTT down the road.
If the conditions are not right, we will BOYCOTT!
The Boycott is a fundamental game changer that alters the way things will be done from the past.
There will be no window dressings to fake democracy in Seychelles again!
If we use the same old past failed ideas, to bring about change, we will unfortunately, not just go around in circles, but we will all go down the drain as we whirlpool to no where.
Right now, the opposition is whirl pooling to no where under Ramkalawan and his first bad idea since the BOYCOTT results.
Sorry, as humble as I can put it, we will not be a part of this strategy, quite simply, because, we do not want to go down any drains.
When SNP leadership is prepared to put false pride aside, we are ready to talk and dialogue any time, any where, for a better Seychelles and yes, for 1. Democracy, 2. Freedom and 3. regime change.
We speak frankly with Mr. Volcere, Mr. Boulle, and Mr. Dhanjee so we have no problem speaking to SNP.
They can send their driver first if they like, since I know they operate on a Plantation system there.
I remember a teacher in primary school use to tell our class when people would be hurt because of words said in the sand box: "if you can dish it out, you better be prepared to take it if you cannot take it, keep your mouth shut".
Perhaps this is a moment for due reflection for everyone.
Thank you for your time, and do have a great day, make it the best you ever had in your life, live your dreams for the entire 24 hours and be free. If we all do that, Communism will crumble- like a paper air plane to the bins of history.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
ROSEN
ReplyDeleteI think there should be an open televise debate whereby journalists from different newspapers can come question Michel as President of this country.Instead of wasting tax payers money in a programme named En moman Avek Presiden-we could name it En MoNAN avek Lapress.Thereis millions of questions and issues the people would like to answers from Michel .After all he is the president he should be answering any question asked by the people he is their servant they have a right to know.
On Pierre,
The guy who supposed to be proffesor in mathematics has run at of formulae,he has taken two to three days trying to figure uot that mathematic formulae could help him get a seat ,after lots of additions,substracting,divisiona,and multiplication he has ended up with thwe same result namely EQUAL ZERO SEAT.The best option for Pierre is to accept the fact that he was to greedy ,he was focusing of the perks PP offered him that he was binded to see that Pp was just usung and abusing him for their own politcal gain.He should dissolve his ZEEDA party and stop wasting judges time for an case which uot outcome will be altered (there are important cases for judges have to deal with) and go into forced retirement.
Jeanne D'Arc
A non-Seychellois reading Christopher's blog would be forgiven for believing that he leads the largest opposition party in Seychelles, that he's got the ruling party on the run and that only he is working for "freedom and democracy" in Seychelles against all odds!
ReplyDeleteAs I've said before, Christopher better get down from his little cloud. He has absolutely no influence on anything in this country and will never have.
Until further notice, SNP remains the largest opposition party in this country and it's up to its leadership to decide how to proceed as an opposition party. So far, they have decided to work together with NDP and Mr. Boulle. It's brought positive results in the recent assembly elections. Long may be this cooperation continue.
Keep on dreaming my man. Dodo ti baba.....
Why David Pierre insists on humiliating himself is beyond me.
ReplyDeleteIt's amazing what money, position, privilege, greed, can do to people.
The court will certainly consider his case as they've done for others before but seriously, what does he hope to achieve? Would he be comfortable sitting the assembly on the back of a court decision if it came to that? Doesn't it show desperation on his part? Can somebody please take him out of his misery?
There appears to be an affliction hitting the Manchams and their descendents - la folie de grandeur. Their belief in their self importance.
ReplyDeleteWe see it everyday with James Mancham, the many conferences he announces which nobody here know nothing about and couldn't give a rat's bottom about. The nephew now wants to give the world the impression that the opposition in Seychelles is HIM. That James Michel is trembling in his little shoes at the mere mention of HIS name.
Really? Are you serious???
Dodo ti BABA
ReplyDeleteIt is the right word for those deated like yourself.it seems you so disturb and jealous that the successful boycott was not initiated by your leader RAM so all this nonsenses.It is not time for trying to disrupt the opposition unity instead accept the reality and join meetings organize by Chris,Boullé,Volcere in order to movement forward.The people has given the opposition a clear sign to prepare for an alternative to Pp ,let us get together and deliver what the people expect from us namely bring about freedom and democracy.
Jeanne D'Arc
i meant defeated
ReplyDeleteAnd I meant what I said. Dodo ti baba. Dream on.
ReplyDeleteAnd keep dreaming....
ReplyDeleteMust be a nice feeling to be up there with the fairies.
ReplyDeleteWhen Gill finally organises a long overdue SFP public meeting, Jean Paul Isaac will be there in person and Jeanne D'Arc will be there in spirit. There's the promised throng. Gill's gone gaga.
ReplyDeleteAt least Pierre can rely on Parti Lepep's rent-a-crowd for his meeting, just like he relied on Parti Lepep's rent-a-voter to jazz up PDM's score in the elections a few days ago.
There is also Gill's mate Viral Dhanjee and his off the wall political theory. Birds of feather and all that jazz. Like Gill, he thinks money maketh politician.
However, I am pleased to see that Dhanjee is using his money to challenge the constitutionality of the re-appointment of foreign judges. It is a much much better use of his money, than trying to get into politics.
Call me SNP Pathetic, if you like.
Call Me SNP pathetic,
ReplyDeletePierre depends on Pl we depend on the people.Politicans are servants of the people not that of an autocratic party ,a dictator or to the likes of Pierre,Charpin.
Mr.Dhanjee is forced to use his money he sweated for (he did not purlioned it from public coffers like Pp) to defence his case becuase he beleives in justice and rejects that his rights are abused by a tyrannt .His fight for his right shows us again what kind of systen we live under -ONE PARTY STATE which is nothing than a dictatorship at its extreme.
Jeanne D'arc
SNP's support was shown in May 2011elections, but it is clear that the Alliance of Ramkalawan, Volcere and Boulle has pushed up that support which the opposition got in the National Assembly elections to achieve a result of nearly 49.5%
ReplyDeleteIt is obvious that what the people wanted and has always wanted is for the opposition to unite to fight the system and clearly their support has manifested this.
Now it is up to that opposition to decide if they are going to take up the challenge and show they are worthy of this trust?? SFP could decide to get on board or remain marginalised but what we must realise is that, to coin the words of Michel "the people will judge us by our actions".
I have no doubt that there is enough wisdom, ability, determination and goodwill in those men and women who really have Seychelles's interests at heart to forge the right way forward.
I hope so too.
ReplyDeleteI hope that everyone will leave their ego at the door, forget about political mileage, position. prestige and focus on the people of Seychelles.
Why does Nation feel that they have to publish every single rubbish that comes out of Glacis Sur Mer?
ReplyDeleteIf they want to be consistent, why don't they interview Mancham on his return (God save us all) and get him to explain to us, what interest Seychelles and Seychellois should find in these so-called conferences?
"It should be noted that politics are largely responsible for the cracks in our social fabrics"
ReplyDeleteI picked this gem from the Lepep website, in an article praising David Pierre.
Really these people are full of bullshit.
The cracks in our social fabrics you morons have been caused by your president for being unable to keep his old little willy in his lanmores.It is caused by your ministers sleeping around like there's no tommorrow.
Just stop and look around you, you brainless moron.
It just pisses me off when I read such shit.
Answer to post of Christopher Gill dated 6 October.
ReplyDelete1. Were you not a member of the National Assembly in 1998 onwards, did you bring changes to democratise the country or you betrayed the people of seychelles who elected you and crossed over to the sppf/parti lepep camp?
2.Were you not receiving a fat salary whilst you were a member of the Assembly, did you refuse to take it in the name of the people?
3.What contribution did you make as a member of the opposition in the Assembly to advance democracy and remove the one-party state mentality?
4. In the end Mr. Gill you supported the sppf, you allowed them to use you, just like David is being used. He will soon wake up from his slumber and realise that he has been used, sold and bought like a commodity.
5. So if I were you I would stop accusing my colleagues in the opposition, when I did the worst to stiffle democracy in Seychelles. Acts by people like you contributed to stall democratic reforms and you have to guts to accuse Bernard Georges and others of doing nothing in the Assembly to advance democracy.
6. You are a hypocrite Mr. Gill and an opportunist trying to ride on the democracy bandwaggon. It will do you or your party good. Come clean and stop accusing others.
I meant it will not do you or your party any goo.
ReplyDeleteVery well said.
ReplyDeleteGill seems to enjoy the bashing he keeps getting and he keeps coming back for more.
I suppose that he's going by the premise that the worst insult anyone can cause you is to ignore you, so he has to come out with these most ridiculous and senseless comments to encourage reaction and try to remain "relevant".
That may be so, but Gill will remain irrelevant in the grander scheme of things, as long as he does not grow up.
ReplyDeleteWhat I see are not the qualities of a polotical leader, certainly not one that I would want to put my faith in.
We have enough of these jokers around. Let's not add to them.
Pierre goes to court to get crumbs of comfort; logic defied, wants constitution defiled
ReplyDeleteAfter the drubbing he got at the hands of an angry electorate last week, Pierre shifts to the constitutional court to find some reward for his treachery. After having failed to get elected by the electorate, he is now seeking election by the judiciary. He is hoping that our reviled judges, with their reputation for pro-government decisions, will defy logic and defile schedule 4(2) of our constitution and hand Pierre the 10% that he spectacularly failed to poll. In court, Pierre is represented by Basil Hoareau who endorsed James Michel in a PPB in the presidential elections.
It is unclear what Pierre is disputing in court, apart from that fact he was not given a proportional seat by the Electoral Commission. He calculated that bagging a seat would be plain sailing, with the real opposition boycotting the polls and fear driving people to the polls. He miscalculated.
Is he arguing that, in the past, proportional seats have been calculated on valid votes and that this method of calculation should be maintained for 2011 elections ? From what has been reported, this appears to be his main argument. Pierre is plainly wrong there. We know that the calculation should have been based on votes cast since 1996. Hendricks Gappy has said publicly that the calculation was based on votes cast. How does Pierre know that the calculation was based on valid votes ? Is he expecting incriminating documents to emerge from the former Electoral Commissioner's office ? In fact, we can all see that the allocation of seats was based on votes cast. No party got an extra seat or was denied a seat because the calculation was erroneously based on valid votes. In fact, as we know now very well, it made no difference to proportional seats even if Gappy might have made an error, because of the low number of spoilt votes in previous elections.
Constitution means what it says; says what it means
ReplyDeleteWhat is not clear from what is being reported is whether Pierre is also saying that the constitution requires the calculation for proportional seats to be based on valid votes. This would be an argument that the constitution does not mean what it says when it says that Pierre needed 10% of votes cast not valid votes. Pierre is asking judges to rewrite election terminology and this will make the judges a laughing stock. Votes cast mean all valid ballot papers placed in the ballot boxes. Valid votes mean votes to be counted for the election candidates. The turnout of 74% was based on votes cast. In countries where voting is compulsory, there is a big difference between votes cast and valid votes. In Seychelles, voting is practically compulsory and many voters chose not to vote for either PL or PDM. They saw absolutely no difference between the two. Quite rightly too.
Even if Gappy's calculations show that he used valid votes in the past (it made no difference to the allocation of seats), Gappy's mistakes do not set precedents and do not override constitutional provisions. Good judicial decisions set precedents. It would be ironic if the judges were to cede that power to the Chairman of the Electoral Commission, and set precedents for future cases in other areas. If the judges were tempted to indulge in judicial rigmarole to please Parti Lepep government once again, they will be undermining their own role. A shaggy-dog judgement will do just that.
Pierre under the cosh
Pierre told us in April he was a man of logic. We gave him the benefit of the doubt back then. In August, while logical men and women were exhorting the opposition to boycott the polls, Pierre put together a makeshift political outfit to contest them. He is now defying logic by arguing against facts and a clearly written provision of our constitution. He can't have much respect for the judges. The judges should return the compliment in kind in a few days time.
Having sparked off the biggest number of spoilt votes in the history of Seychelles, Pierre is shameless and now wants the constitution soiled so that he can squeeze into the national assembly. If Pierre is finding himself under the cosh, it is because he is a traitor. Traitors watch out !
It seems SNP folks have decided to aims their criticism at SFP leadership as if it is SFP that is opposing an autocrate system on us.I have also a feel SNp leader is having a personal disorder consists of inflexible and maladaptive personaility traits which interfere with day-to-day functioning and may invlove subjective unhapiness.RAM must endihis layman's politcal perspective the country needs politcal dymanics from the opposition.it is time to put personal miscontent aside and get around a round table in order to find common ground on how we move from here after the epople have given your the Opposition the credibility that you never had in the last eigtheen years.It is a change and the moment to act instead of inciting an itern fights from unexplainable reasons.Do not dissive all those people who cameto support you and bravely follow your call for this succesful boycott instead use the momentum to accelerate your influence and call for reforms while continuing to expose Pp and its thugs.Time and the momentum ison your side do not let it escape from you else it will be a self- defeat for your all and the people will note and follow you step by step,faling to promote thier aspiration will be suicide and will have consequences in future elelctions or even boycott.
ReplyDeleteGet to the stick RAM ,do soemthing for your country.
At the end of the day we must go forward with the hope and not backward with division.
Jeanne D'Arc
Pierre seems to be asking for a revision of the constitution in order that he can obtain a sit for himself in the Assembly.This conportment is a selfish one aim at achieving personal benefits.Pierre as did Charpin is thinking of the salary he won't obtain being out of the Assembly and have no interest in his people apsiration for freedom.
ReplyDeleteMy piece of advice to Pierre is simply close down your fake,weak,party and find a life.
Jeanne D'Arc
And can we ask him to take Christopher Gill & his SFP with him? P L E A S E !!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAll indications are that our independent and impartial judges are bent on granting David Pierre & James Michel their very dear wish: Reverse Gappy's decision and give David Pierre that much sought-sfter seat. David Pierre will become the Leader of Opposition and will have the last laugh afterall.James Michel is awaiting thid "great exercise of our democracy" to be photographed with David Pierre. After all these meetings behind closed doors before the election, he will finally be able to present his "lopozisyon responsab" to Seychelles and the world. Who knows - he might even declare a public holiday.
ReplyDeleteNothing that happens in this cursed country of ours surprises me. I'm hoping to see Pierre from then on in a red cap at midnight.
ReplyDeleteWhatever happens David Pierre will never be an opposition leader. First and foremost he did not oppossed his adversary in the national assembly election and I would whom he will oppose in the assembly. I think the the constitutional judges are going to shatter their prestige and integrity even more if they over rule the constitution to give David Pierre the seat in the assembly that he did not deserve because the people had spoken. Anyway in a banana republic all is possible. With Lepep you can be whatever you want to be. As their moto goes.So David Pierre wants to be the leader of opposition James Michel will make him be but the consequences may be very damaging to the image of the Seychelles which is still in limbo in a communist state.
ReplyDeleteSo, no news yet of PL's 6 proportional MNAs ? The constitution gave them 7 days to submit names to the Electoral Commission. The deadline was yesterday. Even if PL argues that the election results were announced on Sunday morning, the names had to be submitted by the end of today.
ReplyDeletePL is quite clearly openly sympathising with David Pierre and perhaps openly intimidating the judges. PL would have missed the deadline if Pierre loses his case in a few days' time. Even if Pierre wins, the ruling will apply to the extra two seats for PL.
PL has not challenged the Electoral Commission's decision. But it seems it already knows that the judges will order Gappy to recalculate the proportional seats. If the Constitutional Court does not do it, the Court of Appeal will. Then PL will appoint its 8 members and Pierre will appoint himself.
However if Pierre loses, then PL has forfeited its constitutional right to make appointment for proportional members.
Or is our country so lawless now, that the constitution does not matter and PL will do whatever it wants ? Any challenge to such abuses is bound to fail in the courts because the judges do whatever Parti Lepep want ?
No news form Pp and No reaction from Gappy asking Pp why it has not submitted names by now.Pp will do what ever it wants including telling the Constitutional court what to do and dito to Gappy,you have forgotten under which systen we are?We are in a one party state the dear leader has ultimate power and can over rule whatever decissions at will.But all these theatrical shows help us proving Pp one party state which Michel can no longer say the contary.The boycott undressed Pp in the garbs of democracy it was hiding into ,it can no longer hide now.
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Don't tell me they will be sacrificing Marie-Antoinette Rose, Marie Louise Potter and Patrick Herminie. I think, if Pierre loses this case and PL can't appoint proportional MNAs, this national assembly will be short-lived. Elections within a year.
ReplyDeleteWhat is PL up to ?
No photo of Albert Rene voting. Did he vote or did he find an excuse to boycott Michel ?
ReplyDeleteWhat about James Mancham ? No public, dramatic congratulations to PL on a resounding victory ?
ReplyDeleteSomething strange in this post-election Seychelles. It is as if everyone is in shock.
They might sacrefice Marie-Antoinette and others the reason behind it is that )Michel must prepare the ground for Faure the latter will be taking over the office probably in the end of next years or so and new faces must be brought in the system in order to give us the impression that there is change as if changing faces will change the communist way of doing thing which is of course rediculous.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
Wilby Lucas - Speaker.
ReplyDeleteMarie-Louise Potter - Minister
Lepep is being "magnanim" in "victory". Why do they need to take up the proportional seats when they already have 100% membership? It would be too much of an over-kill. Hasn't the Constitutional Court directed that the new national assembly cannot be convened until after David Pierre's court case? Lepep has no reason to rush to start "work". In fact, they're dreading it.If the Court gives David Pierre the seat he's after and re-calculates Lepe's entitlement, so much the better for all concerned.
And don't forget, ser frer e ser seselwa, that with their overwhelming control of the national assembly, they can amend the constitution as they wish, anytime.
ReplyDeleteJames Michel is not sure what to do with Herminie.
ReplyDeleteHe is being offered the post of ambassador in India.
He wants London.
Another one who is being sent abroad, at seychellois taxpayers' expense, to go and rest and whilst at it, not pose any threat to Danny Faure in taking over the baton.
Ton Pat has started packing.
Ton Pat is being brought back to help with the promotion of "valer moral".In his spare time, he is to proof-read James Michel's next book.
ReplyDeleteThe constitution says that the national assembly must be recalled with 4 months of its dissolution, i.e. by 18 November. But as the country is in such a mess, I guess it does not matter if it does not meet by then.
ReplyDeleteAfter 2007, we thought PL couldn't amend the constitution. But it did, thanks to Judas Carpin.
I am sure PL will want to use its porportional seats to give its friends a job for the next 5 years and a pension afterwards.
Why not appoint failed PDM candidates. What's wrong with them ? There are 25 of them.
That Pp will amend the constitution at will,is not something new,the same way it amended law to retrict the people to exercise their rights of assembly ,the same way it disolved the Assembly, and the same way it has done in the last eighteen years and that with or without oppostion in the Assembly.This time though Pp can use the rubber stamp Assembly to dismantle the Republic or ovethrow the Constitution.However the Constitution belongs to the poeple and thus the decision to amend it should be left to the people. we will make sure that this decision is left to the people else Pp will have to face people protests.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
What's wrong with PDM candidates ? Good question. Answers to SBC.
ReplyDeleteWhat is Misel lining up for Pierre ? It is hard to see the judges sully their reputation further over spoilt votes with some ballot papers reportedly carrying humorous, graphic, adult protest signs. Apparently on one of them Pierre's missing hair had grown back. Another candidate was given a blow job rather than the tick PL was asking . That's what you get when you have farcical elections.
Anyroad, Misel should open an embassy in Timbuktu. It's in Mali, West Africa, for the geographically-challenged like Misel himself and I dare say the vast majority of PDM candidates.
A shocked Pierre admitted to glum Faure and glummer Michel on election night that it was not easy getting 25 candidates for them. As if we did not know, from the PDM's line up of fools. Making him an ambassador in Timbuktu would give him a suitable refuge to hide his face, once he has failed to drag the judges into his own pickle.
Nothing would please me more than if Meriton were to stick his head as far up Gill's posterior as possible. Meriton will then know what it is like to make viewers suffer him on SBC.
ReplyDeleteGill will enjoy that. Maybe Meriton will enjoy it more.
ReplyDeleteMany violated the electoral laws in spoiling votes
ReplyDeleteMuch is being made in some quarters of the relatively high number of spoilt votes- or rejecting votes in last week’s parliamentary election. Some are claiming that these people wanted to send a “message”. What kind of message. Given that an average `1,500 voters inadvertently spoil their ballot cards at all elections, it would seem that those who chose to do that “expressly” stand at around 15,000.
Yet , no one commented on the 15,000 voters who chose to spilt their ballot cards, rather than mark them in favour of one of the candidates have bothered to make the point that many of them were breaking the electoral rules. These clearly state that no voter may deface the ballot card or write defamatory remarks about the candidates thereon. The law also provides for heavy sentences for those guilty of such offences.
Many candidates and polling agents were shocked at how low some people could stoop. Many cards carried obscene language, highly libelous of one or both candidates.
In one instance, somebody had gone to great lengths to draw a male penis in the mouth of one male candidate with obscenely suggestive remarks. Vicious allegations also targetted some female candidates. Another candidate, who happens to be bald, had several strands of hair planted on his head.
These were done by people who took several minutes in the polling booths. Obviously, election officials or even the police could not intervene and this could be seen as interfering with the secrecy of the voting process. Voting is supposed to be secret.
The irresponsible ones, were acting at the behest of Wavel Ramkalawan, Ralph Volcere and even supposedly respectable lawyer Philippe Boulle.
It is sad that no action was taken against them. And they are in fact being praised in some quarters. Had they sincerely wished to register their disapproval of the candidates, they could just have ticked twice or put two crosses in the boxes provided for such purposes.
Did they need to use insulting language or even obscene language or drawings?
Yet, history will note that over 68% of those who voted, marked their cards correctly and registered clear votes.
That is more than doubled the percentage of votes “spoilt”, a great majority. The majority of Seychellois have spoken clearly.
It is also an offence for divulging informations after swearing the secrecy act. No matter how insulting or obscene people had defaced their ballot papers. No electoral officers had the right to comment on what they saw on the ballot paper. This is simple a matter of principle after one had sworn to the secrecy act.
ReplyDeleteThat was an article in The People. The police should get the editor to divulge its source.
ReplyDeleteI think if there is a boycott of the presidential elections, people will be timed in the polling booth, and dragged from the polling booth if they take too long, in case they are writing messages for Michel or Faure.
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ReplyDeleteAt the outset, I hope everyone had an excellent, fantastic weekend and I ask you all to reflect, on how you can live free and achieve best, everything in your life you ever dreamed of.
When you live your dreams, you destroy communism.
This, Seychelles needs badly and we need it fast.
Ramkalawan is using the BOYCOTT to attempt to salvage his dead political career. Note all the comments on the preoccupation with the National Assembly, which I strongly suspect is strongly driven by him.
Seychellois do not give a rats ass about a communist National Assembly.
Our united boycott was made to call up the promises of Democracy and Freedom to Seychelles and her people.
We will hold to this promise the PL !
The opposition must round table discussions and not let the strategy of Ramkalawan guide us into the dark woods ahead.
If he continues this policy of division, we will expose every single blunder he commits to ward off the opposition supporters of dangers ahead.
Alone, Ramkalawan and SNP simply cannot be trusted to make good decisions for us. Just look at what they have done in 18 years and they topped off their cake with a sell outs like Pierre and Carpin as little consolation prizes for us.
Freedom Party was formed to secure three things: 1. Democracy , 2. Freedom, Regime Change.
Freedom Party was not formed, to pension its leadership with 32,000 per month for the rest of the leaders life.
Have a great week and live free!
If we have to Boycott again, we will!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Warning:
ReplyDeleteDO NOT FINANCE SNP ONE SINGLE RUPEE.
THEY ARE USING THE MONEY TO BUILD VILLAS IN ST. LOUIS.
MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE SO THE OPPOSITION CAN MOVE ON.
RAM must not transport his lack of imagination on the people.Look!Eighteen years ago RAm told us that he was the guy that would bring changes and democracy in this country.Thousands of voiceless thought at that time he was the guy due to his background as a Priest was the one they can put their fate into.Unfortunately eighteen years later RAM has achieved only two things-1)Make himself multi-millionaires 2)istead of the bringing the Democracy he promised us, we have ended with One party state.This is neither change nor Democracy RAm,but an act of treason.Stop dividing the Oppostion and ignoring the people's voice RAM.The people has spoken they need alterantive to PP ,thus they need direction and solutions not a bigot.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
Mrs Houreau quite politic.Why?it take to long to fight this struggel under communist,dont give up the fight seselwa,otherwise you will never see freedom and Democracy in Seychelles.
ReplyDeleteMrs Houreau has probably run out of steam.May be she thought fighting for Freedom is food aids and freedom is served on a silver platter.No it is not, it a fight that one needs endurance and have an iron mental resistance else you will give out the fight before one has even started.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
The fight for Democracy and Freedom against the back drop of a hardened communist culture is not for the light hearted to front.
ReplyDeleteThose that believe the job is for parliamentarians, as we have heard SNP tell us for 18 years are wrong.
Those that have told us it was for their pockets, and pensions as politicians because they struggle and have nothing to show for it, do not belong in this fight.
Those that say we believe in the Ballot Box have been wrong all along.
Those that said we were in a democracy for 18 years, are of course, 100% wrong.
Why?
1. Because one of the key symptoms of communism at play is to buy out the opponents, no matter how well intentioned they are at the out set.
We have seen this place out with JRM old DP and recently with SNP in tete a tete meetings in 2008 and 2007.
Now Ramkalawan wants a tete a tete with Michel, to restore SNP place in the National Assembly.
I understand the meeting has already taken place in secret.
This battle, that brought us together under BOYCOTT banner, is not a battle for any party in Seychelles.
This battle , that brought us together under BOYCOTT banner, is not a battle for money, salary, perks privileges and position.
This battle is about our people's quest for 1. DEMOCRACY 2. Freedom.
3. Regime Change.
PL and SNP want to fool us and fool us into not knowing what we BOYCOTTED.
They say we Boycotted for reforms in electoral process.
That is just one foot note to why we BOYCOTTED.
For this, what SNP is doing, and what Ramkalawan as its leader is condoning, is nothing short of a disgrace.
Sorry, but we must expose the blunders until it stops.
Too many blunders will cost Seychelles great opportunities. It is for this SPPF PL are happy with SNP as a lead opposition when PDM has failed to garner acceptance by the people.
We in Freedom Party and opposition will not be fooled. We know PL can raise the money to buy sell outs at heart.
Reply To SNP Pathetic-
You seem to be twisted in your knickers, since you failed to answer any question I posed in any serious manner. Noted and Pathetic indeed.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Gill seems to have a lot of information on who Michel meets. You obviously think you know more than anyone else. But more than a week after a successful SNP/DP/Boulle boycott, I expect Michel to start making moves to engage the real opposition, after Michel has failed to set up PDM as the opposition. I expect Michel to go to Ramkalawan with his tails between his legs to discuss how to move the country forward. Michel must know that life cannot go on as before, after the boycott. This country needs democratic and electoral reforms followed by fresh elections within a year. Michel must know that he cannot allow 25,000 to get angrier and angrier over the next 5 years with a fake national assembly.
ReplyDeleteBut the thing is that RAM has lost credibility and it will be hard for PP to find pretextes,execuses and even rpae the constituion to bring back RAM.Any move to bring RAM illegally into the Assembly would jeopardize Pp own frailing survival,and since Michel is eager to hold power by all means in order to avoid justice,it would be suicidal for Michel to risk his own skins to save an already defeated colleague.Such sacrifice Michel cannot afford,too risk for pp,for it might back fire.
ReplyDeleteHowever we will keep tab on Pp moves and adapt and response accordingly.
Jeanne D'Arc
But the thing is that RAM has lost credibility and it will be hard for PP to find pretextes,execuses and even rpae the constituion to bring back RAM.Any move to bring RAM illegally into the Assembly would jeopardize Pp own frailing survival,and since Michel is eager to hold power by all means in order to avoid justice,it would be suicidal for Michel to risk his own skins to save an already defeated colleague.Such sacrifice Michel cannot afford,too risk for pp,for it might back fire.
ReplyDeleteHowever we will keep tab on Pp moves and adapt and response accordingly.
Jeanne D'Arc
For a dummy, ex paid informant, Ramkalawan is a real big man in Seychelles.I am impressed.
ReplyDeleteEven the President has to put his tail before his legs to meet Ramkalawan.
I think Ramkalawan has to put his tail between his legs to face the people he will sell out again.
Gill is 100%. Opposition has to be a round table.
EX- SNP that KNOWS TOO MUCH.
He was a real big man until recently not for the people but PP.His comportment has helped PP hold on power longer that they predicted.
ReplyDeleteYes oppostion should be at a round table and it should be tacit after the support they had from the people.Everybody is wondering though ,why has RAM so far refused to join the round table?Why is he refusing to do so?Only RAM seems to have the answer and it would be a good idea that RAM speak out and explain why he is refusing to support the united opposition and instead entering through the back doors of State house to meet Michel.We expect an explanation from RAM.
Jeanne D'Arc
They are back tomorrow. Herminie, Potter, Larue, Pool, Rose etc. The national assembly sessions resumes tomorrow without opposition. For the last few months we have paid speaker Herminie to do sweet FA. On the other hand, as he has been twiddling his thumb he has not been doing any damage to the country, apart from being a waste of space.
ReplyDeleteOnce sworn in, the assembly's first action is to elect a speaker. It is certain that they will re-elect Herminie, as he is back as one of the 6 proportional members. The hope that Herminie will be back simply to swear in new MNAs is dashed. So more incompetence from the speaker. In En Nouvo Sesel, plus ça change plus c'est la même chose. Parti Lepep has a problem getting shot of its failures.
Potter will no doubt be appointed leader of government business, a post that is nowhere to be found in the constitution. But with a free hand to change the constitution, Parti Lepep can now make Potter's position constitutional.
One thing Parti Lepep will not be able to do is appoint a leader of opposition. They might want to change the constitution and abolish the post instead.
Christopher Gill's problem, his big problem, is that nobody wants to associate with him. He wants a round table. Why doesn't he hold one? If Ramkalawan's reputation and inflenece is finished, what is stopping Gill to have his round table and unity? Does he mean that Ramkalawan's influence is in the way????
ReplyDeleteChristopher Gill's problem, his big problem, is that nobody wants to associate with him. He wants a round table. Why doesn't he hold one? If Ramkalawan's reputation and inflenece is finished, what is stopping Gill to have his round table and unity? Does he mean that Ramkalawan's influence is in the way????
ReplyDeleteJames Michel has convened his national assembly. What next for us?
ReplyDeleteThe swearing in for the goons tomorrow will be broadcast live on radio and SBC. Has it happened before?
ReplyDeleteIt's clear that now that as SNP is not in the assembly SBC will be broadcasting weekly sessions of the assembly live.
Mitsy Larue the arrogant slut? Herminie? Potter? the other arrogant slut Marie antoinette? Is that the best that James Michel can do?
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ReplyDeleteThe other oppositon parties have already hold a round table which RAM refused to attend.However since RAM considered himself a still as SNP leader and hopefully still in the opposition it is a democratic way of doing things and get all involve around the table,unless RAM think his heart is still for Pp which he can make it public then everybody would have a change to know the real face of RAM.RAM must understand the longer he drags his feets and stay quiet the more his already damaging imagine will be tarnished .
Jeanne DÂrc
This is what the Seychelles National Assembly will be the next years:
ReplyDelete25 Pl membes with no idea wha so ever about the Constitution of our homeland.
The speaker Mr. Herminie will not have a soar throat during the next 5 years since now he has nobody to shout at.
All issues, bills, etc will be passed in 10 mins time and the Pl MNA´s can take the Tata bus home.
SBC will have a big problem convincing us that the PL MNA´s are working without the opposition.
Without the Opposition it will be one of the MOST BORING institutions of the country.
Mr Speaker will be bored to death, he might resign and go back to Ministry of Health to work as a GP.
The police will have less work since they will have no MNA´s of the opposition to beat up.
They might as well open a casino in the New National Assembly building, icluding beds for its mebers since they will all be BORED.
Danny Faure, the most confused man in Seychelles will not have to try to try to explain the unexplainable....
In other words... They will be the LAUGHING STOCK OF THE COUNTRY
WHAT A SHAME FOR SEYCHELLES
And PP will find it difficult to convinced International lenders/donors to give him money to promote democracy,the pressure would be such that Michel might well dissolve the Assembly once again in order to give it an acceptable façade to satisfy International donors for supporting such an autocrate regime will be difficult for those countries in convincing their people to give their tax payers money to support a dictatorship.
ReplyDeleteThe Assembly will be what it has always be under PP ,it will serve the executive not the people,the only different this time is that there is no stooge parties to play the fake sparing partners which use to give PP the image it wanted to have namely giving us and Interantional countries the image that we are in a democratic state.
Jeanne D'Arc
PL is digging in for the long run knowing opposition is fragmented by Ramkalawan.
ReplyDeleteIf SNP and Ramkalawan does not meet at the round table for discussions on the future course of action, we must move on, in spite of their divisional childish games, that one would find only in a playground at primary school or perhaps in the street gang mentality of East L.A.
The national interest of the Nation take precedence over Ramkalawan's personal financial interest and the fight between SNP and PDM and division between them.
I humbly propose, that SNP re engage with Pierre and PDM their fractionalist party born out of the under belly of SNP. Work out your problems and tell Pierre to give back the money he took.
I humbly propose in this context, both parties keep their dirty laundry between themselves.
Finally, I humbly propose that we move on and that discussion be in the context of a round table. Send the driver or the gardener is Ramkalawan is too ashamed to show up. We understand these details in the human spirit and hold him free of guilt.
In the meantime, no Business community should assist the divisional SNP one single rupee. I agree with that. Keep your money for hard times ahead do not invest in division with no plan except a back door meeting with Michel again.
Last time this was done, we had a 38% salary increase and 70% pension for life to pay for, and God only knows what else.
Have a great day, live free, and show fear, you fear not.It will take a rock out of the communist wall that divides our beloved Seychelles.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Leader
Freedom Party!
You really are a crackpot.
ReplyDeleteLeader of Seychelles Freedom Party - You have repeated over and over again that Ramka's political future is finished.I cannot disprove this.If so,and if, as you declare, your round table meeting is being held, I regret that I do not understand the problem. Clearly SNP is non-existent, is leaderless, you guys can get on with your business of round tabling. Or are there other issues you're not telling us?
ReplyDeleteOn a separate point,can I give you a piece of friendly advice:Can you stop harping on useless issues? If Ramka is finished, let him be. Forget about what was done or not done. Focus on the future.If our future now lies(as you seem to imply)with you ans SFP, convince us.I only ask to be convinced that you are something more than a writer on blogs. I want to engage you in a proper open meeting of your party, not to challenge you but to better understand your policies.
Is Ramka meeting Lepep in secret?
ReplyDeleteWho?
Why?
WHY????????
ReplyDeleteI worry when politicians meet in secret.
ReplyDeleteWhen ?
ReplyDeleteWho says ?
Chris thinks he can destroy Ramkalawan with his allegations of secret meetings, in the same way that secret meetings at State House destroyed Pierre.
ReplyDeleteThe one-party state national assembly restarts its sessions this afternoon, with gorilla Herminie in the chair. His re-election is guaranteed by this feckless bunch of Parti Lepep MNAs. Unlike before, he will get 100% support for his re-election.
ReplyDeleteThere will be more than a tinge of sadness that buddy Pierre is not joining them, marooned in the constitutional court. He will be hoping that his comrades have left the back door of the national assembly unlocked and slightly ajar for him to sneak in in a few days' time like a thief at night.
The great plans of mice and men to invent a bogus, synthetic and pirated opposition have come to nought. Pierre's ambitions were wrecked in the ballot boxes and he has gone to the constitutional court beaks for a salvage operation.
They might as well start their yakking in late afternoon. There will be not a lot for this counterfeit national assembly to do. This assembly will be a constant reminder that Michel's took a massive gamble and failed. Democracy got derailed. It will also be a persistent reminder that Michel has been an incompetent president. If he enjoys this afternoon's spectacle of a perverted democracy on reclaimed land, he is more stupid than he came across on election night on SBC.
Freedom Party is engaged and Freedom party is open to exchange ideas openly.
ReplyDeleteWe will not tolerate in silence, any secret meetings.
This is SNP past failed policy.
We do not do secret meetings. Our objective is 1. Democracy, 2. Freedom, 3. Regime Change.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Poor Christopher Gill.
ReplyDeleteI wish that you could focus on your family and your business and leave politics to politicians.
Can James Michel's speech writer PLEASE stop putting thesec long complicated words in the guy's speeches. It's embarassing to see our beloved president struggling to pronounce and making a monkey of himself.
ReplyDeleteInsist that he speaks good old kreol.
And use a translator.
ReplyDeleteReply to Poor Christopher Gill-
ReplyDeleteI am just fine and my family is just fine. Thank you for your interest.
If I leave politics alone, go silent, then SNP will become irrelevant to PL.
Georges client,, who is higher then FIU, will walk all over the people of Seychelles, because SNP will be in their pockets. Right Bernard?
Boy this file is getting heavy.Just that move, was a $ 500,000.00 move for Michel.
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Chris,
ReplyDelete"If I leave politics alone, go silent, then SNP will become irrelevant to PL."
Please translate this for me. I struggle understanding what you write and what your president reads.It may be the effect of el ninno.
Good advice being given to Gill. Take it, Chris. Pass the baton to JPI.
ReplyDeleteOn SBC last night Herminie was moaning about the absence of divergent views in his new assembly.
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ReplyDeleteThis advise seems to be driven by a slave mentality.
I cannot go silent.....it violates my humanity.
Why don't you go silent, and show me how it is done.
As for SNP, they are already irrelevant, because they feel comfortable and not threatened that way.
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In attendance were myself, Boulle, Volcere, Dhanjee and others.SNP did not send even their gardener.
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Did you guys see the empty seats in the assembly? One is reserved for David Pierre who hopes to join his comrades-in-conspiracy next week.
ReplyDeleteIf, as Gill says, the round table is going well, napa laraz. Ramka and SNP are irrelevant. Let's focus on other things.
ReplyDeleteI hope that this round table does not end up like Mancham's press releases about his overseas trips: a lot of smoke and nothing to show for it.
I hope that this round table can come out with a plan and propose to us a way forward. We do not want to be still sitting round a table this time next year.
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ReplyDeleteYes the Round Table is going well.
I confirm this.
Yes we are focusing on other things.
I confirm this.
But the file gets bigger and bigger.
This is something we cannot ignore.
I asked you before, now I ask you again, what do you want me to do with this file?
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How was the table for 2 at State House last week between Michel and Ramkalawan?
ReplyDeleteSell outs at it again?
How many times will you sell us?
Who gets the prize Ramkalawan? or Pierre for biggest sell out in Seychelles history?
Pa posib Gill, SNP i parey en gro kabo dan ou deryer ki de tanzantan ou bezwen kriye; “tire mwan pete!”
ReplyDeleteMe foutou nek ou yap yap yap tou lazournen me nou pa war oken resilta! This time last week ou ti a pe deklare ki by this time this week Misel would have been forced to resign. Misel i ankor la e ou ou ankor pe yap yap yap. Ou pti pilon behind the scene pe zis adulate lo sa gro kabo dibwa ki SNP inn bour dan son boyo kinn fer li panic an kwayan state security ti pe al touy li! Sa gro kabo Wavel dan son fes kinn fer li vwar lanmor pe pas obor son trou finyon pa oken state security!
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ReplyDeleteYour cursing of myself, Freedom Party, JP, for our work and tireless effort exposes your defunct state of mind.
I suggest, you crawl back into a hole, before we develop this story further for public consumption.
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ReplyDeleteThe BOYCOTT will have notched up a SUCCESS if it makes Parti Lepep MNAs, especially Herminie, reflect on the real meaning of DEMOCRACY and the need to allow the OPPOSITION to SPEAK in the national assembly.
ReplyDeleteReflecting on democracy does not mean they will change,and why reflect on democracy when they do not even understand its definition?
ReplyDeleteForcing Pp to go back to one aprty state is a success,Pp has long garbed itself under the dress of democracy to give interantional donors believe we in a democracy but the boycott has unmasked Pp .Now that Pp is alone in the Assembly taking decision not in the onf the people but the party makes ppmore vulnerable than ever.Do you think when Michel said quote"I should have negiociated with the Oppostion" instead of creating a fake Party,he mean a lot,dito to Hermenie saying i would have like an oppsotion in the Assembly this also speak for itself.It speaks for itself becuase Pp realize Dissolvong the Assembly was a mistake,creating a fake party was a mistake Why?They did not achieve the outcomes expected.Morevoer,Michel objective by dissolving the Assemblyas to gain a passant party that would play the sparing partner of Pp in the ssembly thus give Pp credibility,but after Michel realized that the Boycott would do much more damage than expected he could not even promise Pierre a seat for his own party was in danger thus he was forced to abandone Pierre for his own survival.
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The main problem with Herminie is that he is not a democratic speaker. You do not need to be a bully to run the house. He needs to put it in his thick head that in Democracy, the constitution makes provisions for a Leader of the Oposition, and as stated in our supreme law he is to be respected as such.
ReplyDeleteIn all democratic countries the legislative is referred to as Senators, equivalent to MNA in Seychelles, and these politicians nedd to be treated with respect, and not BULLYING them as though he was the only educated person in the house.
Its a great setback for our young democracy that this individual has been re-elected speaker, especially after showing his total incompetence and lack of interpretation fo our Constitution.
Things will get worse since right now in this ONE PARTY STATE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY, there is not even a lawyer and nobody has any knowledge what soever how to interprete the laws of Seychelles. This is just the begining of the biggest FARCE OF THE AFRICAN CONTINENT.
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