Ben Carson argues that reform in Seychelles may have come too late as Seychellois head to the polls after the dissolution of the National Assembly.
This weekend Seychelles will go to the polls to elect a new National Assembly after President Michel's Parti Lepep led a National Assembly vote to dissolve itself in July this year.
Elections were due to take place in 2012 but the vote means new elections had to be held within 90 days. The dissolution, a sequence of events which began with the idea of reform, were an apparent attempt to make elections more fair and transparent. But the process has ended with a situation where the election may produce a result less representative of political feeling in Seychelles than the presidential elections in May, won by James Michel.
An analysis of this intended electoral reform, and the route to the election, suggests that Seychellois democracy may have instead taken a step backward.
After the presidential election
After the presidential elections in May 2011 it appeared that the newly re-elected President Michel might commit to electoral reform. The presidential elections took place amid allegations of corruption, unfairness and of a lack of transparency. Independent observers made various post-election recommendations. A common theme was the creation of an electoral commission to replace the single electoral commissioner - although observers were complimentary about Hendrick Gappy himself.
From the Commonwealth Expert Team preliminary report:
From the Commission de L'Ocean Indien Organisation International preliminary report:
From the SADC Electoral Commissions Forum preliminary report:
In his victory speech Michel said:
“In the New Seychelles we shall continue to put in place and strengthen our legal and institutional frameworks to ensure the progress of our democracy. It is my aim to improve on our achievements and to reinforce the rule of law, good governance and transparency.”
This seemed to suggest that Michel was willing to go ahead with reforms and wanted to improve democracy in Seychelles. Of course, talking about change is not enough. Michel's own government launched a Constitutional Reform Committee in 2008 shortly after the last round of elections which promised much and resulted in little. As a consequence the 2011 elections were were characterised by failures similar to those in the 2006 and 2007 elections.
But Michel has moved more quickly this time. Within weeks of the presidential election a new bill was tabled to create an electoral commission. The bill was presented to the National Assembly but rejected by opposition leader Wavel Ramkalawan and his party, the Seychelles National Party (SNP). However, in a dramatic series of events one member of the SNP - Jane Carpin - crossed the floor to give Parti Lepep the 2/3 of the vote it needed to pass the bill. Michel then tried to dissolve the assembly, again using Carpin's vote to get the number of votes required. But dissolution was temporarily delayed by two appeals to the Constitutional Court arguing that a vote for dissolution had to be scheduled in advance of the vote itself so that members of the assembly could make sure they were present to vote. The appeals were upheld, but a subsequent scheduled vote for dissolution still passed, again with Carpin's vote. This happened despite the fact that Ramkalawan tried to have Carpin removed as a member of the assembly on the grounds that she was chosen by the SNP to be one of their proportionally elected seats rather than being directly elected to the assembly.
A closer look at the 6th Amendment Bill 2011
In a detailed independent observer report the Commonwealth Expert Team elaborated on its recommendation to put in place an electoral commission:
"[O]ur concern is that while [government officials] may very well go through the exercise of establishing such a Commission in fulfilment of our recommendation, the appointees to the Commission must be from a broad cross-section of stakeholders and the appointment process must also be, and be seen to be, a truly independent process."
Whether the appointees to the Commission are "from a broad cross-section of stakeholders" can be questioned. Hendrick Gappy was picked to lead the Commission, and although it will undoubtedly benefit from his experience, a completely fresh start might have been helpful to make sure the appointment process is "seen to be" truly independent. Unfortunately, an in-depth analysis of the independence of each member of the Commission is beyond the scope of this article.
It is important in the long-term to look at how members of the Commission are chosen and whether this is an independent process. This is set out in s.2 (f) of the 6th Amendment Bill 2011 which gives a replacement for Art 115 of the Constitution. The relevant substitute section (S.115 A. (1)) states:
"The Commission shall consist of a Chairperson and four Members all of whom shall be appointed by the President selected from seven candidates … proposed by the Constitutional Appointments Authority …"
The Constitutional Appointments Authority consists of three members, one of whom is chosen by the President and one by the leader of the opposition. Those two members then agree on a chairman - although if no agreement can be made by the members then the president can choose and appoint the chairman himself. It should be apparent that this process gives the president effective control over a majority of appointments to the Constitutional Appointments Authority should he desire it.
The Constitutional Appointments Authority then proposes seven members for the Electoral Commission and the president has a veto over two members (or 30%) of proposed candidates. No veto is given to members of any other party.
From this it seems the process of choosing who will be on the Electoral Commission is compromised at two levels of the selection process, so the substantive reform in the 6th Amendment Bill does not appear to live up to Michel's claims that he will "reinforce the rule of law, good governance and transparency". The reality of reform seems to have been lost along the way.
How the bill came to be passed
It was important to independent observers that the appointment process of the Commission was "seen to be" independent. This ties in with a current problem in Seychelles - the belief that politics is corrupt and a resulting scepticism and fear that reduces democratic legitimacy in the country. We should, therefore, also look at whether the bill is seen to be fair, as well as whether it is fair.
The bill was introduced to the National Assembly and passed with no support from the opposition, except for Carpin. This makes it look like the bill was forced through the assembly rather than passing with unified political will. The lack of support also suggests that a reasonable number of people may think that the bill is unfair. Both of these factors, the apparent force and the lack of support, undermine the image of the bill as fair.
Subsequent political fighting and infighting has also marred perception of the bill. The reaction from Ramkalawan, trying to remove Carpin from the Assembly, and the actions of Carpin herself can both be called into question and serve to make recent events about politics and power rather than substantive reform. Neither the bill, nor the way the bill was made into law, seems to embody a spirit of transparency, good governance, or fairness.
Dissolution of the National Assembly
The content of the 6th Amendment Bill, and the way it came into force, could be excused as merely unfortunate; an example of parties failing to work together effectively and not considering the implications of their actions. At the very least a case could be made that both parties, and individuals such as Carpin, were trying to do what they thought was right in the national interest.
It is more difficult to say the same thing about the dissolution of the assembly.
After succeeding in passing the bill to create a new electoral commission Michel chose to try to dissolve the National Assembly. It is difficult to understand why Michel may have thought dissolving the assembly could be in the national interest.
It could be argued that the Assembly was ineffective due to the SNP's resistance to taking part in the legislative process after the results of the presidential elections which it deemed unfair. However, from Michel's point of view it is still difficult to see why dissolution was the best option for the country. If Michel believes that effectiveness of the Assembly rests in making the laws he believes are right then he should have been content: he could pass laws with his party and the support of Jane Carpin. Perhaps Michel believes it is important to have a rigorous opposition to fuel debate about the laws that are made. But this is a difficult argument to make given that no opposition is adequately prepared to fight an election. Dissolving the Assembly and having an election now will not produce at atmosphere of greater debate. Instead, with the SNP boycotting and several smaller parties likely to split the SNP votes, the Assembly is likely to end up more one-sided than before and with less debate.
So why dissolve the assembly? The obvious answer is in order to win. Michel may have believed that he could guarantee quick and easy victory with a forced election now. A divided opposition has completely collapsed. In its place are several small parties which will fight over and split the votes which would have gone to the SNP, leaving Parti Lepep with a large majority.
The problem with this is not so much the fact that there may have been political reasons at the heart of the decision to dissolve the Assembly. The greater problem is Michel's portrayal of himself as trying to reform the electoral process. How does holding a quick election fit in with Michel's stated desire to reform Seychelles politics into something more democratic, fair and transparent? After elections in 2006 and 2007 Michel promised reform. He failed to deliver. After the presidential elections this year he promised reform and delivered a questionable bill for a new electoral commission. But within days of passing the bill the assembly was dissolved and another election had been forced. Realistically, 90 days is not enough time for a commission to effectively plan and oversee an election.
The single reform which was put in place has therefore been rendered practically ineffective for the current election, even leaving aside all questions of whether the commission is inherently compromised. Yet again an entire electoral cycle will have passed with no effective electoral reform. It therefore has to be questioned whether Michel wants elections that he runs in to be democratically transparent. By Monday we will have to wait another five years - half a decade, until 2016 - for the people of Seychelles to have another chance to speak.
Calling an election because you may win is not undemocratic. But if Michel thought electoral reforms were important, surely he would make sure they were cemented before the election. If he thought the check provided by an opposition party was important he would allow an opposition time to prepare rather than guaranteeing himself five years with a weaker opposition than he has now. The election may not be entirely undemocratic, but the way it has come about raises questions about whether Michel is sincere in speeches where he presents himself as holding democracy and the national interest above all else. He is a politician, and self interest, perhaps, still comes first.
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A very well written article which really exposed the hypocrisy of James Alix Michel as someone who is not sincere to bring about real democracy to Seychelles because he has developped an obsession with power in order to prolonged the legacy of parti lepep. So that they could keep on with their corrupt practices and continue treating Seychelloise people as second class citizen as they siphon whatever resources of the country of their personal benefits. The article truly reflect what is going on in the Seychelles after the so called multi-party democracy which is just a window dressing form of dictatorial rule. James Michel and his henchmen has no shame to continually defied the international organisation with his lies and deception to satisfy his greed for power.
ReplyDeleteThe world his watching you and god knows for how long you will rob us our freedom in order to satisfy your lust for power and greed.
James Michel has been afflicted(if not infected) by the virus that all African leaders have: once in power, do everything to keep it AT WHATEVER COST. Unless they are kicked by the military or popular revolt, on and on and on they want to stay, perpetuating corruption and nepotism.
ReplyDeleteIn less than 24 hours James michel and David Pierre will know "zot grander".
ReplyDeleteThe initial signs of boycott are encouraging.Translated into tomorrow's election, James Michel should start shaking in his shoes, dyeing his hair and injecting some more botox around his eyes.
50% turnout with a significant percentage of spoilt vote will give us an idea how much a theft last May's election was.
Boycott!!!!!!!!
On outer islands 100% turnout was expected. This is because reluctant voters are hunted down and dragged to the polling station to vote for Parti Lepep by their bosses. A plane is laid on to ferry them to whatever island the ballot boxes are waiting.
ReplyDeleteEven the supine Electoral Commission is admitting that the turnout was less than 100%.
Only naive people believe that Michel is committed to electoral reforms. On electoral reforms, Michel is lying.
ReplyDeleteJames Michel is an idiot and probably the dumbest African leader ever. Are Seychellois people that stupid or naive?
ReplyDeleteTime for the Seychellois people to start their own Arab Spring and call it the Indian Ocean Tide. Michel must go and it is time to end communism in Seychelles.
ReplyDeleteMr Carson's comment strikes the right note.The one minor point that he missed to articualte though, is that he did not mention that the opposition is united and is conducting a strong boycott with unrepairable consequences to the rogue regime.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
Seychellois can be gullible,naive if not plain right stupid. They've proved it over and over again.
ReplyDeleteI hope that they prove me wrong today.
After the results are announced today, Ramka or whoever is leading SNP will need to tell us what the way forward is:
ReplyDeleteDo we formalise the opposition unity by creating a new united opposition force to formalise and organise our opposition from outside the assembly?
Does SNP go it alone and reorganise itself with a new leader, new executive committee, new policies?
Does SNP stay as it is, continue bleeding with the risk of ending up as a non-party?
Jules Hoareau as a member of the citizens watch observation team - an "independent" observer????? Wasn't he in one of James Michel's PPB last May?
ReplyDeleteIn my view, he's as "idependent" as Wavel Ramkalawan who should also be observing these elections.
On another issue,suddenly everyone is huffing and puffing to ensure that these elections are free and fair. Even the human rights Commission is keeping its offices open today!!! If only all this was done just three short months ago when there were contenders in the elections.
It's good to see it today but it's an over kill when it's only two wings of the same political party "contesting" the election. What are observerst going to tell us? That Parti Lepep was kind to PDM and vice versa?? That it was civil? Would they also tell us that the true opposition in the country did not participate in these elections and were not given adequate airtime on the state media to outline their position?
Very very unlikely. again, this farce will be declared "free & fair", James michel will announce that it is a victory for Seychelles and that we are a shining example to the universe. Life will then carry on as "normal".
RAM must not try in any way to sabotage the eixsting unity of the oppostion.There are more importatnt job to do after the sham election.Disagreement on strageties to follow will always exist between parties.However,whenever possible ,efforts must be made to narrow their differences.And when it's not possible,each should be committed to never block the other's struggle,but be committed by-either being an observer or an active participator.Unity doesnot in any way mean to be squashed into one idea,one thinking.But to find common ground to fight a common enemyIf our actions and politcal processes are coordinated,no one can defeat us.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that,i personally believe the unity of the oppostion must hold beyond this election ,for it has shown the power it produce when they united:there will be more issues of conrcern to be deal with should we really want to make a dent in the Pp.We cannot afford to live under Pp for another four years by then PP should be history.
Opposition you have the power to bring about change faster than many PP would ever expected,the momentum is on your side ,let us it to its maximum to get rid of PP.
Jeanne D'Arc
Normal will have a new meaning after these sham elections.
ReplyDeleteI was surprised to hear that Jules Hoareau was a Democracy Watch election observer. Earlier in the day I heard him on Radio Seychelles asking people to exercise their "democratic and civic right" to go and vote. I do not suppose he said that in 2008 when Rene and Michel organised a boycott of the Mont Fleuri by-elections. I did then wonder whether his presence was contaminating and strangling this young movement. He may just have been reading an announcement on the radio, but his paid government roles in life are conflicting with what one would expect to be principles of Democracy Watch. Why do Parti Lepep supporters contaminate what should be politically impartial organisations ?
David Pierre is a real CARPETBAGGER. For years he tried unsuccessfully to unseat the SPPF dinosaur at Port Glaud, Ginette Gamatis. Then he moved on to what he thought was a safer and winnable SNP seat at Mont Buxton for the 2012 elections. The demagogue in these elections has decided to capitalise on his SNP past and still stand at Mont Buxton. But this morning he voted at Glacis. Did he vote for Dr Payet (Parti Lepep), as he would have done if there was no boycott ?
Turnout is low so far, by 12 noon. St Louis less than 20%. Other places about 25%.
ReplyDeleteHave we finally lost our fear of Parti Lepep ?
Parti Lepep will be dragging people from their homes and their sick beds to go and vote this afternoon, having failed to do so in the morning. In the next few weeks, number of deaths will rise as a result of these sick people being dragged from their sick beds to have their vote cast for Parti Lepep in the polling booth.
ReplyDeletePierre did defeated Gammatis in the last Presidential election becuase there were three counts of votes the first two he was declared the victory wihle Gamatis collapsed twin after the first two counts,but for whatever reason and without Pierre^s oppostion Gammatis was declared winner in the third counts.Strange isn^t it?Probably even then Pierre was working for PP and i could imagine that a call form Statehouse what the call that bought him and made him accept Gammistis as winner and him as loser.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
correction;Victor,collapsed twice
ReplyDeleteunity means stop slandering your opponents who is fighting for the same cause but in a different way. I truly believed that James Michel stupidity will come and haunt him big time because after tonight there will be the birth of a stronger and more determine opposition in Seychelles and the political landscape will change because James Michel will be humiliated again. James Michel will be an illegitimate president with an illegitimate parliament with the disapproval of the great segment of the society. Shame on you Michel for your insincerity and your miscalculated strategy which prove that you are an incompetent leader who is leading a country through corruption and with unfair political advantage. Thank to Albert Rene that you have occupied the highest office in the land because you would have never done through just and righteous means as real and great leaders do.
ReplyDeleteSBC reports that "participation not been massive so far". Fancy that ! They would normally overstate these things. People are going to be whipped to the polling stations this afternoon, to save James Michel's bacon.
ReplyDelete31% voted by 12 noon. How many of those have spoilt their vote ?
Boycott. We want a decent country. We will get it, if we hold our nerve. What will you get by going out to vote ?
Keep your hands clean today. Don't let Gappy stain your finger. Do not vote.
ReplyDeleteIf you must vote, out of fear of government victimisation, spoil your vote.
So far, so good. We can do this together.
No news of Per Fondater Rene voting. Is he boycotting too ?
ReplyDeleteIn May, he turned up to offer lukewarm support to Michel. He dropped his pencil while telling us he "agrees" with everything that is going on.
He has been nowhere to be seen in this campaign. He knows that a boycott is a leaf straight out of his own book.
Michel must be wondering what else out of Per Fondater's operating manual will hit him after these sham elections.
ReplyDeleteHow incompetent is James Michel ?
ReplyDelete(a) Runaway foreign debts
(b) Economic crisis
(c) IMF reform programs
(d) Corrupt judges
(e) Incompetent PL speaker and MNAs.
(f) Fake opposition parties
(g) Election boycotts
(h) Khalifa's money and power over Seychelles
Just a short list.
For the long term strategy is that a boycott and a low turnout is still preferable, even if David Pierre gets into the national assembly on the back of a low turnout and just a handful of votes.
ReplyDeleteDavid Pierre will lack legitimacy. The opposition outside the national assembly will still be real, legitimate opposition.
The national assembly will lack legitimacy.
James Michel will be mortally wounded and his departure will be hastened, if Parti Lepep really wants a new Seychelles.
Boycott this election. Show that you are behind your leaders. This will give them encouragement to take on Parti Lepep outside the national assembly. Opposition leaders need a clear-cut message from the outcome of this fake election. So does Parti Lepep and this Nouvo Sesel farce.
The turnout so far must be depressing for Parti Lepep, below 50% in all districts half-way through, unprecedented in the history of Seychelles.
ReplyDeleteParti Lepep will be lucky to get a turnout of 65% or more. It will take electoral fraud to get 70%.
Many SNP supporters would have had to vote to keep their jobs. We wait for the spoilt votes.
Don't be surprised if the turnout and spoilt votes figures are made state secrets by tonight.
Opposition supporters must get ready for a motorcade celebration on Sunday.
Yes in deed it will take election fraud to get 70%(North Island voters have alrady been stolen their votes) but with all those observers and the pressure of the boycott ,Michel is not sure if even the rigging will change the result this time around.How would he call victory with 70% when almost 70% abstained from voting,how will Pp be able to defend his fake victory?
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
A long term Boycott after this sucessful one should be the normal course to take.This boycott has proven to all skeptics that the opposition when united they can move montains.Why change what works?One can perfect it, but one does not change what works.Keeping the unity mwil pressure PP but PDM will have difficulty in resisting the pressure which as a result, might force Pierre to change side to save his ass thus and reject collaborating with PP ,but that will depend on how the Oppostion proceed after this election.I bet if stayed united PDM will not live long and PP will be the past by 2016.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
Those winding voting queues that we are used to seeing in the early voting hours were nowhere to be seen. Turnout still below 50%, almost 3pm.
ReplyDeleteThe ideal result will be 50-55% turnout or, large spoilt votes, David Pierre gets less than 10%. And Parti Lepep wins 25-0 and all proportional seats.
I'll join in their motorcade ! Parti Lepep must be thinking right now whether Michel has started to destroy their once fearsome machine through his incompetence.
Expect Gappy to start rubbishing his own electoral register tonight, telling us how dirty it is and telling us the exact number of dead and fake voters on the list. And a major cleaning-up operation starts on Monday morning !
GAPPY is probably sweating nonstop in his air-conditioned room,he is trying to figure how could he steal votes to asure Pp^s victory but with all those observers around him,they impede him in his tricks.What can Pp and Gappy do?Break into the the building where the ballots are stored over night when all observers are asleep then he can have all the night to manipulate the vote,or Michel can just do another Coup D'etat,or Pp thugs can even threaten observers ,or put a bomb then Pp can declare a carefue and call the elction as illegible becuase of its own created terror acttack.A dictator in unpredictable Michel can turn crazy over night and one must not forget he does not to face justice for his crime power so far has avoid this to happen
ReplyDeleteThere is one thing that is 100% sure the BOYCOTT has achieve its objective of exposing PP in the day light as never before.
Jeanne D'Arc
The Parti Lepep placewoman at the SLA (I bet she voted early) who gave orders to seize opposition boycott newsletters looked at Ansamn newsletter no. 5. She said that as this is no. 5, there must be 4 previous issues.
ReplyDeleteThey surprise us and themselves too when they get such a brainwave.
We are told that a qualification to have to get on in Parti Lepep is a master's degree. But with 'gems' like these, are we not wasting our money trying to educate that lot ?
All reports so far point to low turnout. We might as well enjoy this moment and success, before the official results come out and we find the figures have been fiddled by Gappy.
ReplyDeleteLet us hope the lack of enthusiasm in those who have gone to vote is translated into spoilt votes.
But what is the value of a Master Degree obtained in Cuba or bought at a Zimbabwean University?For when i look at FAURE and POTTER no one is anthusaitic or jealous at all of having a degree in such a country or universities.Not even Michel who has only a self-given degree in butchery is convince by neither Fuare nor t Potter degree .
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
Let's not celebrate about the turnout just yet. Lepep activists are hard at work dragging everyone they can lay their hands on to the voting booth.I've just seen a hired jeep with the culprits drive past my house.
ReplyDeleteYes, a low turnout might just play into David Pierre's hands. He might sneak in through the back door.
Ramka should start speaking to the other opposition leaders to reorganise the opposition into a single opposition front to continue to oppose Lepep outside the assembly.The work starts now. I don't care who becomes leader of this new movement.We'll all rally behind it and reclaim our country.
James Michel should know that his days are numbered.
Our victory ends when Gappy makes the official announcement and gives the official statistics. Who will believe a turnout of more than 60% ? And there are the spoilt votes to come.
ReplyDeleteMont Buxton is the only place where voting has been brisk. It achieved 50% by mid-day, whereas by 3pm other districts had not achieved 50%. Must be the effect of the independent candidate and SNP supporters voting for her.
No good news for Pierre's MDP yet. Will there be any good news at all ?
Totally agree,the momentum must be kept and the only way to do that is keeping the unity,organize the oppostion with the same determination and on the next step to follow in order to finish with this one party state.The Oppostion time has come, do not let Pp divide you or take what you have achieved but keep the presure and this pressure as the boycott is showing can only be effective when oppostion is united and have a comon strategy .
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
Electoral Commission announces that "about 50%" have voted by 4pm, 3 hours before poll closes. I assume this means less than 50%, otherwise they would have said "more than 50%".
ReplyDeleteParti Lepep are hoping much more people will be voting after this evening's church services to increase the turnout.
ReplyDeleteIn Arab countries, autocratic dictatorships fear their people after prayers on Friday.
In Seychelles, the government expects us to go and vote for them after attending church.
Is that what they think of us ? Docile people ?
EC announcement suggests or indicates a defeat for Pp and his stooge party PDM.It will also mean Pp has been dissaproved by the people.
ReplyDeletejeanne D'Arc
The people went to church to pray for change not to stay underthe the oppresiion of an atheist leader with a autocratic ideology.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
P l e a s e! Come down to vote! P l e a s e! It's your democratic right and duty. P l e a s e! Donn li en tik! P l e a s e! James Michel needs to prove that the 54% who allegedly voted for him last May are still behind him and his lasanble serye all the way. James Michel needs a victory for Seychelles. His face this morning was very much looking like the morning after.
ReplyDeleteWith an estimated 55% turnout and 15% spoilt votes, not much to celebrate is it?
ReplyDeleteWill Lepep and David Pierre go round Mahe in a combined "victory lap" tomorrow?
I think the opposition should be organising the motorcade round the island.
Any takers
He might well get a heart attack after the final result is annouced.His coffin is ready.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
The results in a few hours will again prove that this country is split right down the middle. The sooner James Michel opens his puffed up eyes the better for us all. He will need to get the message that he has to relook at his strategy.He will need to find a way to sincerely engage the opposition and find concensus on the way forward.
ReplyDeleteInn soz son soz ya soz li menm.
When one adds voters who were not given the right to vote as it was the case of North Ialnd voters,Those foreced or vote manipulated on the outter isalnds plus all those dead voters.It is clearly a defeat for Pp and his ilk PDM.OPPOSTION has won and must thus continue pressure PP for change not tommorrow ,in week in four years but right now.else
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
Guys - the reds are hard at work. Just seen a guy going up La Gogue with his latet karang almost pushed into a car which has done a u-turn.
ReplyDeleteMarie Louise Potter has to make sure that she become minister in the next reshuffle. She has to give James michel a high turnout at Anse Etoile.
Just over an hour to go and there's panic all over.
ReplyDeleteJames Michel has now indicated that he could live with 55% turnout.
En moman istorik: Seychellois is finally waking up from their slumber and reclaiming their country. James Michel and his goons should get the message loud and clear: In this new Seychelles, we refuse to allow him to take us for fools and do to us as he wishes.We should send him the message TONIGHT.
ReplyDeleteMadanm Pillay elected in Mont Buxton and becomes Leader of Opposition. Now, this would be istorik!
ReplyDeleteJust got a text from one of my zwers. The gentleman and his latet karang has been duly delivered to the voting station at Anse Etoile.
ReplyDeleteMy hope is that he is so generous that he gives Ernesta & Dugasse a tick each!
The important message to James Michel is that more and more people are losing the fear of Parti Lepep. That's the biggest threat to Parti Lepep's grip on our country.
ReplyDeleteParti Lepep is in mourning, whatever the outcome of this fake election. Their system has been shaken to the core, after Michel's strategic miscalculation. It will be downhill from now on, unless Parti Lepep executes a palace coup against Michel.
It seems that thousands have defied this government and boycotted the fake elections. Voting is practically compulsory, if you want to avoid losing your job or social services or being victimised by the government in other ways after the elections.
ReplyDeleteRelief at our impartial SBC, as the turnout increases in the afternoon.
ReplyDeleteThey are blaming the weather for less peoples tunrning up to vote in some districts,this is the boycott PP stop broadcasting your bags of liar SBC Seychelles Babylon Corporation.
ReplyDeleteThe boycott is the results of the TURN OFF.And PP was lucky enough that SFP has limited time to conduct the boycott campiagn as it would have liked,else Michel would have had a heart attack.
ReplyDeleteWe expect Pp to act as soon as possible together with the oppostion to bring about the geniune reforms needed in this country.There will be a few days of grace period for Pp to make up its mind after that we expect Michel to call on the oppostion for dialogue all on these many issues namely Independent E. Commission,Judiciary,free access to National medias,etc..etc and etc
it was a short and intense campaign ,now o am going to have a coup of Champagn with colleges to celebrate this suceessful boycott and achievement by the oppostion but especially that of SFP.
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D`^Arc
At least we got some rain, if we get nothing else from this fake election.
ReplyDeleteIf they hold another election like this, they are greedy.
ReplyDeleteReliable source informs me that Pp is doing fine so far. Expect 68% turnout, Pp winning by a good margin.
ReplyDelete62% turnout at Port Glaud. PP 55% PDM 3% Spoiled 4%
ReplyDeleteJendark - fes in bouse
ReplyDeleteIt is what the opposition wants. A clean sweep by Parti Lepep. MDP shamed for their treachery.
ReplyDeleteIt is good if some SNP supporters have decided to vote for Parti Lepep. It was not to be encouraged, hence not mentioned before. But if they have done so, it will reduce the chances of Pierre getting a proportional seat.
The lack of enthusiasm among the voters was very clear.
be ou ou fes pe al bouse la... pa pouni bezwen bouson... vey ou sak dizef kot pe gonfle.landwa mete ou pa pou bez annan manyer PP pou al rempli ou grenn pilon!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteYou must be the only one who did not expect Parti Lepep to win, without credible opposition.
ReplyDeleteInsulting people based on the result of one district shows your ignorance. Boycott is about the total voters turn out and the spoiled votes. You fool! you should know better that people will turn up because of the backlash of lepep since they have access with the register roll and they will victimized people. The machinery of the dictator is still in place. Courage to those who have stood their ground and boycotted this sham election.
ReplyDeleteIndian Navy spotted suspicious small boats in Seychelles waters. Must be illegal voters arriving in the afternoon to boost turnout.
ReplyDeleteMany voters made Michel sweat in the morning, before reluctantly going to vote in the afternoon.
ReplyDeletePierre lost MB. Carpin lost Au Cap. MDP losing everywhere.
ReplyDeleteOne-party state, here we come !
ReplyDeleteDavid Pierre to boycott the results ceremony.
ReplyDeleteIsn't David Pierre getting his 10% and his place in the assembly?
ReplyDeleteWhat about poor Jane? I thought that she said that the inhabitants of Au Cap was behind her?????
David Pierre must have been paid or promised big for him to go and humiliate himself to this extent.
ReplyDeleteBeyond this,does it look like Seychellois, in their vast majority, are turning their backs to the opposition and rallying behind Lepep?
Massive spoilt votes !!!!!!!
ReplyDeletePierre will probably get 10% of valid votes. Turnout down. But massive spoilt votes.
ReplyDeleteAu Cap 47% valid votes.
St Louis less than 40% valid votes.
ReplyDeleteGrand Anse Mahe 49% valid votes.
ReplyDeleteCascade, PL's stronghold, 65% valid votes.
ReplyDeletePort Glaud 50% valid votes.
Douleur lo Misel nou boycott in vraiment marse. David Pierre Juda inn kapot ek las ek gran lagel Jane Carpin ki dumonn ti byen kontan li. Vray l'oppozyson i enn la forse.
ReplyDeleteSo far, after 13 districts, the number of votes for MDP and PL is 49% of total registered voters. Boycott and spoilt votes, especially spoilt votes, MASSIVE !!!
ReplyDeleteNo wonder Gappy is sounding deflated. Spoilt votes a lot more than MDP votes.
ReplyDeleteAfter 12 districts:
ReplyDeleteIndependent 1.2%
MDP 12.48%
PL 86.31%
David Pierre's 10% target is at risk. He better do well in the remaining districts.
Gappy is not giving spoilt votes. It has to be calculated.
Pierre is just over 10% of valid votes, despite low valid votes and massive spoilt votes.
ReplyDeletePierre got 20% (352) votes at Mont Buxton. Boycott and spoilt votes over 1000.
ReplyDeleteMDP
ReplyDeleteBel Air 93 votes
Les Mamelles 95%
Takamaka 91 votes
Less than 300 votes in 3 districts.
Pierre will not get 2 seats.
ReplyDeleteHe may get 1 seat but that depends on the remaining results.
At least we won't have both Pierre and Carpin back in the assembly, after their treachery.
ReplyDeleteMore shame for David Pierre
ReplyDeleteOnly 4 MDP candidates got more votes than the independent candidate. Mont Buxton was a 3-way fight on top of that.
Guys have you noticed that the results being published on the SBC website makes absolutely no mntion of spoilt votes? None whatsoever. They're simply adding Lepep's and PDM's votes and indicating it as 100% of the votes cast! Very naughty - as usual!
ReplyDeleteRegardless of how many MNAs David Pierre ends up with by the end of this evening is immaterial in his eyes. He went out with the aim of achieving at least 10% hence the reason to fiels his bunch of jokers in everyone of the 25 districts.
ReplyDeleteHe may lead an opposition that he has absolutely no control over, but does he care? He's getting the title, the salary and the prestige that goes with being Leader of Opposition. Rest assured he'll be speaking in our name!!!!
If Pierre gets through, he will have to appoint himself leader of the opposition. He will have to depend on Parti Lepep to second his motions. We did say he was taking us back 18 years. An honest man will resign and force Michel to bring in electoral reforms, as thousands have boycotted these elections.
ReplyDeleteMDP failed to win a directly elected seat. The figures show that in many districts, the contest would have been very close. For instance, the opposition would have won Anse Etoile.
Over 20,000 have boycotted -- 90% of opposition supporters. It has been a success. That's the headline. We cannot be ignored.
We're back into one-party system. What a resounding victory for Seychelles and its democracy.
ReplyDeleteI cannot wait to see the circus when the national assembly convenes next week to get on with James Michel's business.
Oh Blogger of 12:20 above.
ReplyDeleteRest assured, David Pierre will have no problem proposing himself Leader of Opposition and Lepep will have no problem seconding his motion.
I can already hear Marie-Louise Potter explaing that her party would have no problem supporting a "responsible" opposition.
Why is Gappy looking so deflated in announcing the results?
ReplyDeleteAnd why is James Michel so ugly?????????????
What's with the eyes?
Can someone please post the results for us Seychellois who live overseas, or let us know a website with the final results. Thank you.
ReplyDeletewww.sbc.sc election results
ReplyDeleteSo poor David does not even get a seat! What an insult!
ReplyDeleteNo leader of Opposition
Spoilt votes count in calculating proportional seats. There were massive spoilt votes. So David Pierre got 7.42% only of votes cast. Therefore NO SEAT for Pierre.
ReplyDeleteParti Lepep wins 25 directly elected seats. It won 60% of votes cast and gets an extrab 6 seats.
New National Assembly
Parti Lepep 31 seats.
No opposition.
No leader of the opposition.
The gamble by both Michel and Pierre has failed.
Lepep inn koze?? Really James!
ReplyDeleteYou're joking right?
What do you mean you are going to be "magnanim"??????
Sesel inn fini ganny beze.
ReplyDeleteFini pour nou.
Can James Michel please shut up!
ReplyDeleteHe congratulates PDM for participating and losing!
ReplyDeleteWho knows, he may yet give Pierre one of his proportional seats.
I thought he was going to go and kiss Pierre.
Please, shut the guy up.
ReplyDeleteAnse aux Pins PDM 170 (11%) PL 1370 (89%)
ReplyDeleteAnse Boileau PDM 167 (9%) PL 1562 (91%)
Anse Etoile PDM 196(11%) PL 1668 (89%)
Anse Royale PDM 173 (10%) PL 1536 (90%)
Au Cap PDM 272 (17%) PL 1309 (83%)
Did I hear James say the people of Seychelles are more "mayture"? Really!
ReplyDeleteYo, the word is "MATURE".
Please stop embarassing us in front of all these foreigners.
Only he can babble in 3 languages. He can't give Pierre a seat. He can engineer a by-election but we are waiting for this trick to spoil it.
ReplyDeleteNow he wants the local observer group to come up with mechanism to improve our democracy!
ReplyDeleteWhat is the guy on?
He said "maycher" when he meant mature.
ReplyDeleteDavid Pierre is showing Michel how to speak English.
ReplyDeleteYes, Pierre, important lesson. No betrayal.
ReplyDeletePierre is finished. He won less than 11 % of valid votes and 7.41% of total votes cast (including spoilt votes).
ReplyDeleteHe accepts the results !
He blames the opposition for his poor vote !
Now David Pierre is crying!!!
ReplyDeleteI can see James Michel' puffy eyes are watering as well.
Is he now blaming everyone for his failure?
Pierre is disputing Gappy's calculation of proportional seats.
ReplyDeleteNow he's contesting the allocation of proportional seats!!
ReplyDeleteWait for Gappy to come back on his decision tomorrow and allocate Pierre that much sought after seat.
He got 10.89% of votes cast and he wants a proportional seat !
ReplyDeleteHe is still criticising the opposition supporters for having punctured his balloon.
Gappy still has not given the figures for spoilt votes.
no mentioned of spoiled votes by Gappy what a shame. James Michel is a lain duck president with his illegitimate sham election. He wished that David Pierre had won a few seats but traitors were not rewarded. He had already been rewarded with dirty money.What a pathetic speech by the poor David Pierre with his lies and deception. His speeches appeal to Lepep only.
ReplyDeleteParti Lepep vote is down from 32,000 (May 2011) to 31,123. More good news.
ReplyDeleteIndependent candidate is reprimanding Michel for praising Pierre and not acknowledging the independent candidate in this election. What a gaffe for Michel ! Very bad night for him, no wonder he is confused and can think of only PDM.
ReplyDeleteBaie Lazare PDM 218 (15%) PL 1218 (85%)
ReplyDeleteBaie St Anne PDM 90 (5%) PL 1925 (95%)
Beau Vallon PDM 169 (12%) PL 1217 (88%)
Bel Air PDM 93 (7%) PL 1205 (93%)
Bel Ombre PDM 154 (11%) PL 1199 (89%)
Cascade PDM 92 (5%) PL 1674 (95%)
English River 174 (13%) PL 1193 (87%)
Glascis 132 (9%) PL 1295 (91%)
Grand Anse Mahe PDM 112 (10%) PL 1025 (90%)
Grand Anse Praslin PDM 166 (13%) PL 1085 (87%)
Pierre will have to conduct his "politik sivilize" with Parti Lepep outside the national assembly. The Mont Buxton Kok Maron has been well and truly neutered by the boycott.
ReplyDeleteDavid Pierre wants to enter in the assembly through the back door. Gappy is going to rewrite our constitution in order to reward David Pierre the traitor with a proportional seat. Whether he goes in the assembly through the back door he is simply a reject and he should publicly declare his loyalty to lepep and stop destroying our country through his greed . David is a false prophet who is immoral and he has never been a role model as a politician. Three weeks to go into a election by our famous David Pierre. What a good lesson for traitors?
ReplyDeleteInner Islands/La Digue PDM 63(5%) PL 1064 (95%)
ReplyDeleteLes Mamelles PDM 95 (8%) PL 1096 (92%)
Mont Fleuri PDM 104 (9%) PL 1164 (91%)
Plaisance PDM 177(11%) PL 1431 (89%)
Pointe Larue PDM 126 (10%) PL 1167 (90%)
Port Glaud PDM 129 (14%) PL 798 (86%)
Roche Caiman PDM 145(13%) PL 956 (87%)
St Louis PDM 168 (16%) PL 910 (84%)
Takamaka PDM 91 (8%) PL 977 (92%)
Mont Buxton
ReplyDeleteIndependent Candidate 194 (11%)
PDM 352 (21%)
PL 1164 (68%)
Looking at James Michel tonight you wouldn't beleive his party had just won 100% of the seats in the assembly.
ReplyDeleteWas it finally dawning on him what grenn he's brought upon himself or was he sad for his comerade-in-crimes, David Pierre.
Mark my words, Pierre will soon be in the national assembly.
Gappy made no mention of the spoilt votes. Not a word.
ReplyDeleteIs it that painful to announce the figures?
Independent candidate 194 votes (0.55%)
ReplyDeletePDM 3828 votes (10.89%)
PL 31,123 votes (88.56%)
Total valid votes 35,145 (October 2011)
Total valid votes 57633 (May 2011)
Does anyone have the breakdown of spoilt votes per district?
ReplyDeleteLet's see how many of Lepep candidates have barely managed to scrape through.
Gappy has declared the results. Pierre might have to go to court to get the proportional seat that he thinks he deserves.
ReplyDeleteIn the past there were few spoilt votes. Valid votes and votes cast were about the same and would have made no difference to the proportional seats calculation.
Pierre was relying on fear to get people to go and vote. Well people did go and vote and spoilt their votes, thus denying Pierre the 10% of votes cast. Fear has been a double-edged sword for Pierre.
From preliminary figures, it looks like although turnout was announced with much fanfare at over 70%, the spoilt votes spoilt all the fun.
ReplyDeleteIt is indeed a historic election.
Another court case?
ReplyDeleteJames Michel will make sure that the judges are "magnanim".
Gosh, isn't our president intelligent!
Madanm Sopi better rush and get thin new word added to our diksyoner kreol.
While she's at it can she check whether "mayture" features anywhere in there.
I know that James Michel is now an author and Chancellor of our university but can't the man speak kreol in such a way that poor motals like me can understand? Does he have to invent new words or "kreolise" words each time?
ReplyDeleteCan't he realise that a half-educated buffoon he is and will remain forever and ever amen.
We can calculate spoilt votes from the information given by Gappy.
ReplyDeleteParti Lepep got 31,123 votes (60.32% of votes cast).
That means there were 51,600 voters who went to vote.
Total valid votes given by Gappy are 35,145.
That means 16,500 people went to vote and spoilt their vote. David Pierre must think these were his SILENT ASSASSINS ! As the results were being announced throughout the night, it was becoming obvious that spoilt votes were massive.
With the lower turnout, over 22,000 of the opposition May voters boycotted these fake elections.
Michel will have nightmare about the number of people who felt they had to vote and spoilt their vote. Wisely, as it happened. Otherwise, Pierre would have got one seat.
There were 1600 spoilt votes in May 2011.
ReplyDeleteDuring the count, people must have been shocked as the spoilt votes mounted up and David Pierre's candidates were polling less than 100 votes in some districts.
What did the election observers make of that ?
ReplyDeleteDavid Pierre's whole political philosophy is based on spiting Ramkalawan because he was not appointed vice presidential nominee.
ReplyDeleteHe made a big show of saying that he accepts the result. Big deal. Parti Lepep won over 80% and over 90% in all districts except Mont Buxton. He has been well trounced.
But he promptly disputed the Electoral Commission's calculation of proportional seats, claiming he has been denied a seat and would have won if Gappy excluded those who spoilt their votes.
David Pierre has accused the opposition of dirty tricks and denying him seats in the national assembly. But he is full of praises for Michel and Parti Lepep.
ReplyDeleteWhat an expensive fiasco for Pierre, Parti Lepep and the country !
It is possible Gappy got the calculation of proportional seats wrong, by using votes cast and not valid votes. In which case, horror, horror, by Monday David Pierre will get a seat in the national assembly. I think Gappy will be happy to correct himself, especially after Michel said he would have been happy for PDM to win some seats.
ReplyDeleteIt is possible that when the calculations for proportional seats are recalculated based on valid votes cast, Pierre will end up with at least 1 seat or possibly 2 seats, because he has polled more than 8%. He may yet have his love-in with Parti Lepep in the national assembly. It will look fishy but Gappy may have failed to realise that the thousands of spoilt votes this time make a difference to the way he has done his calculations in the past.
ReplyDeleteAs much as it pains me to say this, based on 9 proportional seats, Pierre gets 0.98seat. As he got more than 8%, that becomes 1 seat. He has scraped through.
ReplyDeleteParti Lepep gets 8 seats -- 2 more than what Gappy said.
What an embarrassment for Gappy, if he has to change the results !
The only way Gappy can be right is if voting for both candidates is not a spoilt/rejected vote under election law, because there is nothing stopping a voter voting for 2 candidates. The vote is not counted for either candidate but is still a valid vote ! Any views ? If Gappy does not give Pierre a seat, Parti Lepep judges will.
ReplyDeleteWhat does James Michel mean by engaging all "patriotic movements" ? It sounds like he does not mean us, the boycotters. Even on the night of their greatest electoral victory (moral defeat), he is still issuing threats and threatening to ignore the real, legitimate opposition.
ReplyDeleteIf Pierre now gets into the national assembly, it will look like he has been appointed by Michel to be the leader of the opposition, if Gappy has indeed made a blunder. This country is in a mess.
ReplyDeleteIf David Pierre gets that seat back, his presence at official functions and on SBC as "leader of the opposition in the national assembly" will be a constant reminder of the successful boycott that made Michel shake on election night and why there is only one non-Parti Lepep and so-called opposition MNA in the national assembly. He needed to get at least 25% to be a legitimate opposition in place of SNP. He failed miserably. In some districts, PL has better results than in the one-party state era. That humiliation is hardly going to matter with Pierre, as he is determined to show Michel that he is not Ramkalawan and he has changed since he left SNP.
ReplyDeleteWhile they sort out the proportional seats, the headlines today will be pretty bad for Michel and his so-called democracy.
Only 50.63% of voters on the register voted for either Pierre or Michel. Yes, the combined vote for PDM/PL is just over 50% of the voters register.
ReplyDelete49.37% did not vote or spoilt their vote.
This assembly has been voted in by 50.63% of voters on the register. That is really low for Seychelles. The boycott bit hard. Very low turnout in the morning. Those who went to vote in the afternoon just spoilt their vote, while PL was perking up about the turnout increasing. No wonder Pierre was complaining about the boycott. Michel looked depressed. He would be overjoyed if he had achieved this result over SNP. His attempt to nurse a compliant opposition has been rejected. With Parti Lepep's vote down by 1000, there must be suspicions that some of that has been gifted o David Pierre.
The fight for democracy is alive and well and has not been damaged by Pierre's paltry vote and pitiful performance following his act of treachery. Even if he is awarded a seat, the national assembly is still a joke.
Don't mess about with democracy. Either one-party state or fully functioning democracy.
Michel made an ass of himself by not acknowledging the independent candidate at the results ceremony. He was full of praise for David Pierre though. His fake democratic credentials were exposed under pressure. Voters made him sweat for most of the day by the prospect of low turnout. Then he was hit with news of thousands of spoilt votes, making Pierre's votes look like spare change in these elections. The fact that thousands and thousands arrived at the polling stations and consciously refused to vote for David Pierre should worry Michel. It was to be expected that those opposition supporters who do go and vote will vote for one candidate, not all of them and humiliate Michel's own opposition party. After all, PDM was banking on voters being too afraid not to vote.
ReplyDeleteNo proportional seats for 7%.
ReplyDeleteOne Party State you want, One Party State you GOT!
Boycott a Victory for our quest for real democracy and freedom.
Now Michel has no legitimacy since he told the People of Seychelles to turn out and vote and most that did spoilt their votes or stayed home.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
What a sweet victory for the opposition? That Jackass had been defeated at his own game and own rules.
ReplyDeleteNow we will have one of the strongest united opposition in this country with the three most respected opposition leaders of today and other interested leader they have to join the rank and gain respect so that they will be able to play an active role as everybody is invited. If David Pierre is given a seat in the assembly this will be a another fatal mistake by lepep and this will anger the supporters even more and it will have a synergistic effect of further strengthen the opposition.
Say like Michel mantra goes the people has spoken but the people has spoken directly to Michel by rejecting his political maneuver to select an opposition for us as they have been doing in all his supposedly independent members of different commissions in the Seychelles.
Michel is in his dreams by trying to ignore the real opposition because they are opening the eye of the seychelloise people to all his lies and deception.
By looking at this results it is obvious that a united opposition can unseat that evil empire of lepep only if we remain loyal to our causes and work in the interest of the Seychelloise people.
The victory for freedom loving Seychelloise. By not disclosing the actual figures of spoiled votes by Gappy further questions his integrity and independence. What is there for Gappy to lose by disclosing the actual spoiled votes?
Anyway thanks to god that even an P6 student will be able to calculate the number of spoil votes. We do not need Schrodinger equation to do that.
It very looks like David Pierre will achieve his life long dream and become Leader of a phantom opposition.
ReplyDeleteHe will be potographed with Michel before too long as a "responsible" leader. Watch this space. The days ahead are going to be great fun.
The united opposition should take the opportunity of this victory to formalise their unity and put as much pressure on Misel as possible.
ReplyDeleteMake him sweat some more.
Chris, don't celebrate too early. Next week, they will be more than happy to recalculate proportional seats based on "valid" votes cast and ignore the thousands of votes where people voted for both candidates. If there is a way, Parti Lepep will give him a seat. Who will stop them ?
ReplyDeleteMichel's strategy was clear last night. He needs an opposition in his "democratic country". But he wants an opposition that will do what he says and accepts what he does.
Unfortunately, Pierre got enough votes to allow this to happen. But the damage to Michel has been done.
The United Boycott opposition has claimed a great victory, but this is no time for motorcades.
ReplyDeleteWe need to make a list of demands to strengthen Democracy and insure Freedom in Seychelles.
This must be followed by United Protests, United Assembly, and United Demonstrations if the demands are not met.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Good reasoning from Gill. Do not make of fool of our victory with motorcade. This victory is ours nobody will be able to take that away from us. There is a need to reorganised ourselves and starting protesting so that our plight can be heard internationally and pressure will be applied on the corrupt system to make tangible democratic reform. We have win the war but we need to keep on fighting that great battle which could credited to all the opposition leaders and the freedom loving Seychelloises who have refused to be part of the corrupt, immoral and evil empire of lepep.
ReplyDeleteReply to "do not celebrate too early"-
ReplyDeleteThe thing about Fraud is this: once you embark on an act of fraud, one must commit numerous frauds to prevent the exposure of the underlying fraud.
We expect this.
But we will challenge any effort to not count spoilt votes "as votes cast" to determine proportional representation. Even the Church said cast your vote and spoil it if you are unhappy.
This will expose the PL and PDM to further conspiracy, and if the courts get dragged into it, then so be it, all the structures of state will be shown to be in conspiracy to deny People of Seychelles Democracy. It will expose the Election Commission as well, that, Mr. Gappy cannot afford to risk at this time.
All and all,that sounds just like a one party state. Right now, we are ok with that, because our first step has been met: 1. we have exposed the PL regime to the international community to being a one party rouge state. It is not a democratic government as they attempt to assert.
Today, no western power can endorse and continue to assist this rouge communist state. We will expose their political leadership if they do.
The country is divided, and the longer Michel sticks to this road of faking an opposition, the worse impact the division will have on the viability of the state as it faces a major economic downturn Michel could not dream of in his wildest dreams.
My advise to Michel is this: denounce this fake opposition and come clean now. Bury Pierre and company, as they are your creation, suggested, by Danny Faure, to discredit you.
Then let us as a people discuss serious proposals to get out of this mess.
Michel legitimacy as a leader is now in the brink.
Sorry about that, but I told you so.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
They are working out how to recalculate proportional seats. Don't be surprised if we now have a team of experts to do this job, whereas in the past a one-man electoral commissioner was enough. The procedure for changing the result is unclear, as Gappy has already made the announcement. Will they make Gappy admit he made a mistake to save Pierre ? Or will they ask Pierre to go to Court instead ?
ReplyDeleteBrilliant night, even if they give Pierre a consolation prize later ! There are thousands who marched quietly to the polling station to spoil their vote. Michel better watch out, he does not know who we are. No wonder the mood among voters was funereal.
ReplyDeleteReply to "Change The Results"-
ReplyDeleteSpoilt votes are spoilt in as much as they do not clearly give an indication of the intention of the voter, to choose a candidate.
A spoilt vote is a "cast vote".
Hence it must be counted in the total number of cast votes to determine proportional seat representation based on 10% per seat.
There is no such thing as a Seychelles version of spoilt votes that differs from other democracies.
To give Pierre a seat will only help our cause of showing that the opposition is fielded and a fake one.
This will only help us prove our case that Seychelles is in fact a dejure one party state. Which it is.
PL is in a twist. They need to break away from their fraud tactics, now, today.
If they do not, they risk the stability of Seychelles, and any hope that Seychelles can face the severe economic downturn about to tsunami us. When this downturn hits, there will be only PL MNA's to hang and PL.
It will be much worse then anything we have seen since 1931 and it will outlive even F.A. Rene, who is responsible directly, for a fraction of our debt. Michel is directly responsible for most of it.That is due in 2012.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
I would like to know where in the constitution or election law it says you have to vote for just one candidate and not all of them, to cast a valid vote. Obviously if you have voted for more than one candidate, no candidate gets your vote. But you have still validly cast a vote, if you have complied with the constitution and the law on voting.
ReplyDeleteIf they change the results now, it will make the whole process even less credible. It will prove what the opposition have been saying for years, that the results are determined by Parti Lepep.
The calculation may have been wrong in the past, but it made little difference then with much much fewer spoilt votes.
Michel only responds to international pressure and how he is seen internationally, to project a democratic image. He will have to tread carefully about how he gets Pierre in the national assembly.
The constitution says "valid votes cast". If you have voted for both candidates, was that casting a valid vote ? Presumably Gappy knows. He is has been there for years and is paid well enough. He has attended elections overseas where the issue may have come up. He made a point to say that votes cast should be used on the night, so it was not a clerical error in the calculation. But will he be made to accept he was wrong by greater powers than the Electoral Commission ?
ReplyDeleteFancy Michel crying that "the opposition" did not get a few seats. He fumbled his speech with the shock. He obviously knows he can manipulate Pierre now. Pierre was hardly "civilised" to Michel and PL in the last assembly. Something must have changed since April. He has learnt a lesson that he should not play around with democracy and try to influence or decide who represents the 45% that is implacably opposed to him in this country. On the night, Pierre continued to bash the opposition and its leadership , as he has done during the campaign. That will endear him to Parti Lepep government but not the opposition.
ReplyDeleteThe more gaff they make the better for the opposition. Most educated Seychelloises know very well that the great majority of lepep elites are not the most intelligent Seychelloises that are available in the Seychelles.
ReplyDeleteI have said it once and I am going to repeat myself. Having a university degree does make you an intelligent person. You only have a higher I.Q. Intelligence you acquire through life long experiences mostly in the university of life. David Pierre is a clear example of that. He thought that talking big in public and hiding his immoral promiscuous activities and his greed for money in search for self opulence made him an intelligent person. This was the greatest deception of the false prophet of democracy that David Pierre is. He has been exposed big time. Others who has faltered along the way but they have kept their core principle that is to recalibrate themselves and keep on fighting for real democracy. Anonthy Dejacque is a casing point he had his disagreement with the SNP leadership but he did not do anything that Carpin and David Pierre did to my knowledge that is publicly to suggest otherwise.
Good Afternoon everyone
ReplyDeleteThe result had given, the people had spoken, now its a wake-up calls for all who have brains.
As i mention before, under my statement of a United Republic of Seychelles, we need to see what is good in the heart of every seychellois and see what is good for seychelles. The result show 49% of the registered voter have opposed this election,this is a message that No one should be ingored. In this result PL only scored 46% of the eligible voters in this country, this is also a message that 'The people had spoken. The Government must quickly find new ways of doing things; we must set up an indepedent democracy reform Institution, represententive must be across the board with different views and present their proposition to the goverment'this must be done by seychellois for seychellois' we must start soon because the water out there is boiling and sonner reaching the boiling point. Unitted Republic of Seychelles will soon make its contribution in this country for the love of Seychelles.....there is time for everything 'this is the time' seychellois/e can make decision when given the chance and choices never underestimate this nation.
Please don't insult your bothers and sisters lets us start talking positively, this is what we want in this New Seychelles.
URS
Opposition supporters will be looking for new leaders. Those that did not blot their copy-book in these critical times, can expect to be called upon to lead, having demonstrated their conviction and commitment to the real opposition. They will do so knowing they have the full, unquestioned support of opposition supporters as they rebuild the opposition and prepare it for victory. There is a solid base of opposition supporters in this country, for whom voting for Parti Lepep is a criminal act.
ReplyDeleteThis country is still divided into 2 opposing camps. Parti Lepep together with Pierre failed to win more than 50% of the voters on the register in 13 districts, despite being allowed to run virtually unopposed. They got less than 40% in St Louis. Slightly over 40% at Mont Fleuri, Glacis, Bel Ombre, Beau Vallon. Under 50% in places like Anse aux Pins, Anse Etoile, Au Cap, Grand Anse Mahe, Grand Anse Praslin, Plaisance and Takamaka.
This national assembly does not represent the will of the people. The twist of the night was the Electoral Commission saying that the real opposition seats have been left empty, after this fake vote. And Pierre publicly crying for one of these seats. He must think Parti Lepep has welshed on him, as it hesitated from tampering with the ballots and Gappy's calculator to give him a seat on the night.
En Nouvo Sesel ? You are not kidding. But not what Michel had in mind. He had better watch his next steps.
If you vote for more than one candidate, your vote is not counted for either candidate. But it does not mean you did not cast a valid vote, if you went to vote.
ReplyDeleteIn the polling booth, 16,000 voters refused to endorse the choice of candidates before them.
Whatever happens, no seat for Judas Carpin. Justice ! She will have to rely on Parti Lepep's generosity and gratefulness for a living in the style she has become accustomed to.
ReplyDeleteWOLFGANG THOME is back writing for Eturbonews on behalf of Parti Lepep. Or whoever writes under that name.
ReplyDeleteI do love a post-election motorcade. I am getting withdrawal symptoms. Motorcade anyone ?
ReplyDeleteIf Pierre genuinely believes that he is in the opposition, then he should stop agitating for a measly proportional seat. It will still be shameful and the lowest number of "opposition" MNA since 1993. That is the measure of his monumental failure. Let the fight for democracy continue outside the national assembly. Nothing can be achieved in the national assembly as the last 18 years have shown. He must realise that opposition supporters have overwhelmingly supported the boycott. Even 'spoilt' ballots are 4 times more than his votes, despite the boycott having no access to SBC to campaign for a boycott and both PL and PDM campaigned against the boycott calls. He should give up the feud against Ramkalawan. His feud is holding back progress on democracy. No one believes the crap that he is carrying the democracy mantle.
ReplyDeleteLast night's results is further proof - if one was needed, that this country is split right down the middle and that carrying on as before is not an option for the leaders of our country.
ReplyDeleteEveryone, especially James Michel, should now find a way to engage, to find common ground.
Our country needs it, our people want it.
Is David Pierre on the way to get his seat in the national assembly?
ReplyDeleteJames wants it and what James wants, James gets.
Ale Sesel!
If david Pierre cannot get in through the front door, Michel will arrange for one of his newly elected buffoons to either die or resign so that a by election can be called with only David Pierre as candidate.
ReplyDeleteWho's close to death in that herd? Commarmond. Alcohol is going to bury him before too long. Then we have the lauries of Takamaka 7 St Louis who's bellies precede them. They cannot be far from having a stroke.
We should be very grateful to all the opposition leaders. You all have been an inspiration to all of those who would like to break the shackle of dictatorship around every single part of our body. You all have a place in our hearts for your ceaseless efforts when all the odds were against you. Do remember with god everything is possible so let us all respect our great champions in the like of Mr Boulle, Mr Ramkalawan , Mr Volcere and Mr Gill. You all have proved that you have a noble objectives that is to unseat one of the most evil regime in an island state in the like of SPPF/Lepep.
ReplyDeleteLet be a genuine patriotic Seychellioses humble ourselves and be respectful to one another, agree to disagree so that in the end we all come as winners. Like we have proved on the first of october 1st 2011.
Thank you all of our inspirational leaders who are trying as hard as ever to break the psychology of fear of Lepep evil machinery.
A true patriotic Seychelloise that is not find in James Michel definition of what pratriotism is.
From Reuters:
ReplyDeleteThe opposition Popular Democratic Movement (PDM), formed by breakaway members of the SNP, failed to win a single seat, having secured only 7 percent of all votes polled. The PDM said it would contest that outcome in court.
Welcome to Realpolitik, Pierre. But this time you can rest assured the judges will be told to be on your side.
I am sure the opposition will want to contest any fake by-election designed to get PDM members in the assembly. Just to spoil their fun. They should know how quietly effective we can be.
ReplyDelete2011 parliamentary elections
Boycott 34,500 votes
Parti Lepep 31,100 votes
PDM 3,900 votes
Not a statesmanlike victory speech by James Michel. His country is bitterly divided right down the middle. Mind-boggling numbers boycotted. Pathetic performance by his favourite "opposition" party. Thousands of voters are angry at his electoral manipulation. Yet he talks about engaging with the "patriotic movements" only -- more manipulation of democracy.
ReplyDeleteNeither Michel nor Pierre reached out to the majority who failed to endorse the choice presented at these elections. Instead, they both lambasted those who refuse to follow their idea of a so-called democracy.
Ramkalawan has defeated Pierre, just like he despatched Mancham. Both Pierre and Mancham will now be competing for Michel's affections. Michel likes to be surrounded by has-been opposition leaders. This election should show him that this tactic to divide the opposition with his patronage does not impress the ordinary opposition voters. As Pierre will now feel free to openly collaborate with Michel and Faure, he too will be treated as a traitor. Those who put their trust in him yesterday will be disappointed. Pierre is already sounding like Mancham. Not quite sure exactly when he underwent his conversion, but I suspect it is when he was not chosen to be the SNP vice presidential candidate. Pique is eating Pierre up. He is on one long, vicious feud against SNP which he failed to supplant yesterday, despite being aided and abetted by Parti Lepep's fearsome party machinery.
ReplyDeleteMichel should now start implementing democratic reforms, starting with setting SBC free and allowing the opposition access to state media every day to put their case to the people, not just during the election campaign.
While Michel sleeps off yesterday's major headache, the opposition are stealing a march on him and are calling for talks on electoral and democratic reforms.
ReplyDeleteOPPOSITION LEADERS CALL FOR CONSULTATIONS TO SET SEYCHELLES BACK ON DEMOCRATISATION PATH
why is their no acknowledgement of gill in the press release?
ReplyDeleteclearly if this is a new departure, then wavel,or whoever in the opposition camp should realise that gill is part of the opposition
for all his faults,gill is a lot smarter than wavel and had been calling for a boycott a long time ago.
Imagine, if wavel and co.had not stood in the last presidential election like gill said? there would have been more damage.
but wavel stood and lost-surprise, surprise and then complained as usual.
i think wavel and all those aspiring opposition leaders need to realise that PEOPLE OF SEYCHELLES WANT CHANGE. But you people have to realise that you have to up your game and start delivering. the boycott is as much a failure for the opposition as it is for parti lepep because it shows that whilst there is potential for a change, it is not being realised by the present group of opposition politicians.
there are too many opportunistic people like david pierre in seychelles politics.seselwa pa tro kouyon parey nou le kwar.
a wasted vote or not turning up to vote does not mean a vote for ewavel and co. it is a boycott against the whole political process and politicians who are ruining this country
Gill needs to start making overtures. I am sure he is big enough to do that.
ReplyDeletespot on from the last comment. Their needs to be an overture by Gill. I think that the statement is very clear about that. The communique said that Michel needs to engage all stakeholders which unequivocally implies that Mr Gill as well as an credible oppositions leaders. Mr Gill is a leader of the party SFR and his party is legally accepted and is official.
ReplyDeletePlease stop stirring acrimonious sentiments between MR Gill and Mr Ramkalawan. We are fed up of these childish behaviors that will only destroy opposition unity. It take courage to make the first step to mend bridges.
Reply to" Overtures" from SNP Pathetic-
ReplyDeleteChristopher Gill offers you a blog space here and reality blog to say what you like to say. He takes his time to debate and keeps the ideas flowing.
He does not have to offer you any overtures. Gill exposed too well what the Ramkalawan agenda was and he did it with the utmost tact without hurting the BOYCOTT campaign. If anything, without Gill's SFP effort, there would be no BOYCOTT result to speak about.
Who was running into elections when Gill said "NO"? Answer that question.
The time for clowns to run the show has ended. The opposition has turned into a circus show under SNP.
Gill is not interested in fighting to save the political career of spent politicians like Ramkalawan.Sorry, no cards there, since we refuse to end up at Point Norde feeding off drip, because we listen to Ramkalawan. Freedom Party does not take kindly to enriching individuals through our plight, while our people starve to death and suffer greatly.
Gill is focusing on what is the best interest of the Nation and all Seychellois who suffer because of Communism is still engrained in the PL state of mind,at a critical time.
In line with this, he has tabled Two points in Today interview 2 weeks ago: 1. a call for a Round Table after the elections by Michel, to dialogue a path forward since one party state status that Gill said we will end up with, will hurt Seychelles badly;2. that all parties, which includes SNP, NDP, PL, contemplate the rational behind a Government of Reconstruction down the road. Quite simply, the country will not survive well if divided, as Seychelles takes on the worse economic downturn since WWII.
Ramkalawan has already said he will not entertain that idea. But Boulle will. PL has been silent.
I suggest you SNP Pathetic's grow up, and get a life. You have kept Seychelles backwards along with SPPF for 18 years when you told us you believed Seychelles was a Democracy, and you believed in the ballot box. While you did that, you voted yourselves fat salaries and pensions and forgot about the people. I read this rubbish so many times, at times, I had to puke one night after reading a Ramkalawan Column before the Presidential elections.
Long Live All Freedom Loving Seychellois!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
In reply to: "Please stop stirring acrimonious sentiments between MR Gill and Mr Ramkalawan. We are fed up of these childish behaviors that will only destroy opposition unity. It take courage to make the first step to mend bridges."
ReplyDeleteNo one needs to do this, certainly not an insignificant nobody like me, whose opinion is just that; an opinion.
But as someone who has been holding my vomit whilst voting for ramkalawan over the years, because he represented the best chance of removing Pl, i have every right to question the man.
opposition unity? don't get too excited. it is easy to tell people to boycott. there is nothing to lose. but when there is something at stake, then we will judge the strength of that unity.
dont forget it was wavel who destroyed opposition unity by throwing the dp candidate out of the assembly. it was snp who stopped printing weekly.
how 'big' is wavel people?
Gill has been making overtures, and i dont know for what reasons, but wavel has not been big enough to acknowledge this.
Remember people, david pierre and the likes of jane carpin did not drop from the sky. it was wavel kin rod sa bann grenn. And as a leader he should have been able to keep those animals on a leash. Now they have returned to haunt him.
One point we need to also note out of this debacle, seychelles is split right down the middle like it has been pointed out. Even if gill brings 200 vote to the table, it may be significant in the final analysis. Every vote counts from now one.
The plight of Seychellois refugees from the one party state is an issue that has been ignored by the ruling party and it must be taken up.
ReplyDeleteFreedom Party believes that all Seychellois exile have a right to re-integrated into Seychelles society and it is incumbent upon the government of the day, to facilitiate that re integration through providing land for development, making available opportunities for investments, and in some harsh cases, provide adequate compensation for those who have been jailed, exiled openly, by the communist one party regime from 1977-1992.
I will speak and write more on this issue in the coming weeks.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
16,500 spoilt votes.
ReplyDeleteDoes it not warm the cockles of your heart to hear David Pierre, arch traitor and whom Misel wanted to win 1,2 or 3 seats, complain about the Electoral Commission on SBC and threatening to take Gappy to Misel's judges to get a proportional seat ? It did not take long for him to come up against Parti Lepep's one-party state institutions. Misel may have wanted Pierre to become a puppet opposition, but it does not mean Parti Lepep supporters can stomach Pierre or whatever traitors move from SNP to Parti Lepep like St Ange.
ReplyDeleteGappy sounded very happy last night to tell Pierre he did not win any seat, much to Misel's chagrin. Today, Gappy is standing by his interpretation of the electoral law.
On SBC, Pierre is asking for a seat based on precedent, not based on what the people have voted for. Pierre will have to rely on one of the crooked judges to get into the national assembly as a so-called leader of the opposition, no matter that spoilt votes were much more than the votes he got. Some leader of the opposition he wants to be, when he won just 20% at Mont Buxton. Abject failure. All his political games and betrayal have come to nothing. Poetic justice. It is a lesson for all political demagogues. Do not betray the hopes and aspirations of opposition supporters who want to live in decent country. You will be punished, if you do.
16,500 people patiently, silently and with dignity walked to the polling stations to vote for neither Pierre nor Misel. That's conviction in opposition politics. That's what sunk Pierre. And he has no dignity at all, as he now scraps around for a decision from a corrupted Parti Lepep judge to get into the national assembly by the back door to represent an opposition electorate that has clearly rejected him.
David Pierre's spectacular failure to attract opposition supporters.
ReplyDeleteBaie St Anne Praslin 90 votes
Bel Air 93 votes
Cascade 92 votes
La Digue/Inner Islands 63 votes
Les Mamelles 95 votes
Takamaka 91 votes
At Buxton the independent candidate got 194 votes.
At Mont Buxton Pierre got just 12% of the registered voters there.
for all his 'intelligence' who does david pierre think he is going to represent in the assembly?
ReplyDeletecant he see he has no mandate? no legitimacy?
stop lecturing us about democracy david, go away and find yourself a very wide mirror (u might not see your ears in a normal one) and take a long hard look at yourself; i am sure even u will be sick of what u see.
Now that Gappy has made the announcement of the election results, Pierre will find (like Dhanjee did ) there are very few legal grounds available to challenge Gappy's decision. There also may not be a remedy available, requiring Gappy to recalculate proportional seats. More embarrassment ahead for the Parti Lepep government and more ignominy to be heaped on our so-called maturing democracy, as judges interfere on behalf of the government.
ReplyDeleteI do not suppose Parti Lepep will be in a hurry to start this one-party national assembly which will constantly remind this country that it is split right down the middle, rather than tell us that the Parti Lepep is now universally loved.
If Michel really wants robust views in the national assembly, he could appoint 6 independent-minded people in PL's proportional seats, rather than bring back the likes of Potter and Herminie who in any case failed the last assembly.
Under SNP, Pierre would have won more votes at Mont Buxton and may even have won the district ! On his own he lost miserably. Ungrateful git !
ReplyDeleteoli ou pissed off oli ou zot way....ou al kasyet parey en sougoula kin koup lake...ZAKO
ReplyDeletePierre looked like a demagogue last night wearing his cap and sunglasses at the results ceremony. He looked broken by the results and lost composure. It serves him right.
ReplyDeletePDM's candidates will be forever scarred psychologically by the pile of spoilt votes much bigger their own pile of valid votes as the count proceeded, as the scale of the massive rejection of PDM became evident. As Gappy said no seats for PDM, Pierre had his face in his hands and looked at the floor while his accomplices looked at him for an explanation. He can only hope Michel takes pity on him and rewards him handsomely as he is now truly in Parti Lepep. He was right to chuckle when, reading the results for Au Cap, Gappy called Judas Carpin the Parti Lepep candidate. It was what the 15,600 who spoilt their votes thought of all PDM candidates, including David Pierre himself.
ReplyDeleteLast night, ad libbing badly, without a prepared speech and a teleprompter, Michel told us what sort of opposition he wanted from these elections. An opposition that won one, two or three seats. That's what Pierre was promising. But we have news for Michel. We are fighting to win power, by getting electoral and democratic reforms first. Nothing less.
ReplyDeleteWhat I meant by overtures was for Gill to send a full apology in writing to Wavel Ramkalawan. You do not want to suffer the David Pierre fate, as seen on television last night.
ReplyDeleteI had to double check twice this evening that I was in fact watching SBC. Almost did not recognise it. Whether it was to impress the foreign election observers still around, SBC this evening provided one of their most balanced reports ever whilst reporting and analysing the election results.
ReplyDeleteSADC's statement also was loud and clear for James Michel.
It follows that the majority of Seychellois are gving James Michel the time to bring in the reforms but that Seychellois' patience has a limit.James Michel better tread carefully if he does not want this country to turn into another Egypt.
From what SBC showed tonight, Gappy was right to use votes cast and not valid votes. Pierre will not get in the national assembly.
ReplyDeleteWhile saying he accepts the results (to please Michel), Pierre then went on to dispute Gappy's allocation of seats and threatened legal action. He is now looking stupid and a sore loser. His ambition to replace Ramkalawan as leader of opposition on the back of a handful of votes has vanished.
The point is that the constitution was amended in 1996 (when SPPF had more than two-thirds majority) to change from valid votes to votes cast. From the document SBC showed, there is no room for misinterpretation.
PDM was relying on fear to force people to go to vote, thinking once in the polling booth opposition supporters will vote for PDM. Some may have done that, rather than spoil their vote.
But I am still marvelled at the fact that 16,500 went to the polling stations and each one of them decided to spoil their vote. Had these people stayed away, Pierre would today be leader of the opposition.
As a cherry on the cake, the boycott has cut the national assembly down in size from 34 seats to 31 seats. The successful boycott forced 3 proportional seats to be left empty for 5 years, if the assembly lasts that long. We now have a diminished one-party assembly.
All in all, it has worked out just fine. Michel did not get what he wanted. Pierre did not get what he craved for. The United Boycott got what it wanted. Guess who won, then !
Michel put the cart before the horse, by engineering the dissolution of the assembly and calling elections before electoral reforms. He now needs to let the Electoral Commission come up with reforms. These should be enacted by this disgraced assembly and fresh and democratic elections called soon after.
SBC let the SADC woman speak. There was no creole translation. There were some criticisms of the state of democracy. Let us hope they make it to the final report. Perhaps SBC ran out of time for a translation.
ReplyDeletewhy did gappy have to announce the result in english?
ReplyDeleteare the observers more important than the seychellois public?
our kids are having to learn that rubbish creole in school but whenever there is something important, we use english.
shows the value of creole-then we dance around the clock tower every year proclaiming our creolity-what an utter sack of shit
gill apologise to wavel? FOR WHAT?
ReplyDeleteare you serious???
as the supposed leader of the opposition, wavel has failed to galvanise the support that exists in the country.
dont kid ourselves with this result; people boycotting and not voting does not mean a vote for wavel. there are loads of people out there who will never vote for wavel and they are in the opposition. unless the opposition realise this,they will remain remain that forever, the opposition.
Reply to Overtures-
ReplyDeleteDear Mr. Ramkalawan-
1. I apologize for you removing Frank Elizabeth from the National Assembly to break the DP SNP Alliance an agreement you used the communist courts to enforce.
2. I apologize for giving a speech to the SNP Convention in exchange for your promise to unite the opposition, which you never did, because your ego was bigger then your brain.Hence, you are where you are today, all by yourself.
3. I apologize for your calling Seychelles a Democracy for 18 years and telling us you believe in the Ballot box for the same number of years, while our people waiting in vain and exercised false hope under your leadership.You of course, filled your pockets, with a 38% salary and 70% pension for life which is about Sr.32,000.00 per month for the rest of your life. Sorry you got rich off our backs and delivered nothing.
4. I apologize for you deliberately copy and pasting my articles for years, and not giving me credit for it. This is acceptable at NYS but not in a free country. Sorry for you who could not put out the material necessary to move the country forward.
5. I apologize for you running in the Presidential elections, when you should have been Boycotting them, we would have been much farther today. Sorry for you.If we keep on following you, we will end up at Point Norde feeding off a drip to survive. Sorry, I do not want that !
6. I apologize for you putting out a press release, saying "a vote for Volcere and a vote for Boulle, is a vote for Michel".Sorry for you going so low and desperate, it is an indication of your character.
7. Of course, I apologize for you Boycotting the results announcement of the Presidential election. Sorry you did not attend when the Nation expected you there, since in the morning you were on SBC saying to us every was going just fine like a Democracy. Sorry your wires were twisted.
8. I apologize for you removing the Freedom Party from all press communiques of the joint united Boycott press releases, which some were written by Gill himself and Freedom Party gave SNP paper, when it did not have it to print on.Sorry.
9. I apologize to you for dealing with David Pierre your ex Deputy Secretary General, when you could not, because he has so much dirt on you, so you had to play it cool sweating in your villa at St. Louis while Freedom Party did the job on the ground. Freedom Party does not play games, sorry.
10. I apologize that when your leaflets were seized, and Freedom Party was seized, we printed another 5000 and got them out while SNP went to sleep over it. In all we printed 25,000 leaflets, how many did SNP print? 2,500? I am sorry indeed for you.
11. Of course, I am sorry you thought that using fake profiles like Murbarak the Gorilla, Gren Wi, Beer Bottle, asseychelloisasweare, Jack Beck,Mon Fes Y Grate and so on was a good political strategy to say what you like, but hide like a rat. We exposed you as you are. It was sad for us all to do it, I was deeply hurt by the effort, because I see now how we have been betrayed every step of the way by you.Sorry.
Because it also exposed why Seychelles failed with a pathetic ex-opposition leader as you, sorry for you.
12. Of course, I am sorry, for creating these blogs,star and reality, because in your mind, you seem to have adopted a severe inferiority complex because you need them, but hate them.I am sorry your blogs do not work. I wonder why? Yet, I am sorry, for you seek a written apology and overtures from me for your own problems and issues.
If you would like 12 more apologies, by all means ask me.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Reply to "Power"-
ReplyDeleteFreedom Party agenda is as follows:
1. Democracy;
2. Freedom;
3. Regime Change.
How it is done, will be up to James Michel for now.
But the now, does not last 18 years as SNP had us believe.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
How did David Pierre become a number 3 man in SNP?
ReplyDeleteWill whoever is trying to create a bigger rift in the opposition please refrain form it.
ReplyDeleteWill Christopher Gill please be the bogger man here and refrain from reacting to these silly comments.
We all have our differences and our views on one opposition leader or another but it should not prevent us from looking at the bigger picture. The bigger picture today is putting as much pressure as possible on James michel to bring about the constitutional changes that we need. This is bigger than Wavel Ramkalawan and Chistopher Gill combined.
of course meant bigger man.
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