Dhanjee Moves To Void Seychelles
Mr. Viral Dhanjee has filed his Petition before the Constitutional Court of Seychelles to void and nullify the entire Presidential Elections of 2011, for being denied the right to participate in the democratic process by the Electoral Commissioner, contrary to guarantees under the Seychelles Human Rights Charter.
Constitutional Court in Conspiracy To Sham Elections
Mr. Dhanjee won a case before the Constitutional Courts of Seychelles, wherein the Three (3) panel judge ruled that he has a constitutional right to participate in the affairs of state. However, in conspiracy with the Executive Branch of government under James Michel, the Constitutional Court
The Constitution of Seychelles is a modern document that unlike many other constitutions, it prescribes remedies for violation of human rights and individual rights. The Court went conveniently blind, and conveniently forgot how to read the Constitution of Seychelles.
It clearly was not an error nor was it incompetence, because the Judge reading the judgment was no other than Justice Bernadin Renaud, the person who officiated over the drafting of the Seychelles Constitution. He knows every violation of right must have a remedy. The Constitutional Court
Courts in The Sham
The Viral Dhanjee case along with the MSR case for party registration has blown open the Courts of Seychelles conspiracy with the Executive Branch to prop up the sham regime of James Alix Michel. MSR case is on appeal as well. In MSR case, the Attorney General cited not one case law, and won the case. The Judge took no Judicial Notice of the Fundamental Human Rights Charter of the Constitution of Seychelles. He even inferred conduct and action by mere speculation.
Court of Appeal In Conspiracy To Sham Elections
On Appeal to stop the elections, Mr. Dhanjee faced Justice Francis Macgregor and his request to stop the Presidential Elections of 2011 was denied on the argument of the “Balance of Convenience”. Anyone who has any knowledge of Constitutional law will know that the “Balance of Convenience Test” does not apply to fundamental human rights. With this erroneous decision, the courts can rule that the Balance of Convenience” made it appropriate to kill a person that was running away from the Police.
Another erroneous error by Justice Macgregor that calls into question the independence of the Judiciary in Seychelles with red lights, is the decision to allow the Attorney General to file an Affidavit in his own name, on behalf of the Electoral Commissioner who did not file an Affidavit, though he is a Defendant Respondent in the case.
Justice Macgregor accepted a substituted Affidavit in the name of Mr. Ronny Govinden the Attorney General. In any democratic, law abiding society no judge would, even if he was biased, allow such flawed documentation to be filed by the State Counsel.
In any State that is democratic, a State Counsel filing such erroneous documents to balance a human rights case would be terminated immediately. Instead, what did we see after the Sham Election results? The Attorney General lining up to kiss the Sham elected President on the lawn of State House as if the Oscar Awards were up and the Best Actors were being rewarded and recognized.
Void Sham Elections of 2011
Mr. Dhanjee’s case to void the elections of 2011 will be heard on June 14th, 2011. If the Constitutional Court is truly independent, he will win his case and elections will be declared null and void Ab Initio because a candidate that should have been on the ballot paper was missing and there was reasonable time to have placed him on the Presidential Ballot Paper.
These cases have exposed the rig process and the sham elections better than any Commonwealth Observer Report could do justice to Seychelles Seychelles
As we wait for the court ruling, we are already in a One Party State Seychelles
We must now call for a new constitutional conference roundtable for new laws and new rules to be enacted and put in place. Then we will pass that and then we can have decent civilized elections, without vote rigging and election sham.
SNP is duty bound to Boycott the PL until a Constitutional Conference is duly announced. Nothing else will do at this point.
We must step up the campaign to Boycott key activities and key crony businesses.
James Michel has wiped out the Ferrari car with a SHAM!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
May God Bless All Freedom Loving Seychellois!
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 438 Newer› Newest»Jean-Paul Isaac, accept some help from this idiot. The English idiom is "food for thought" -- i.e. something to think about and not something to teach about.
I do not mind being insulted, as long as it is done with panache.
@Brigitte, I have also checked but have not been able to see the offending statement. Still trying to find out. I guess if it is before the Court as an offensive statement, anyone would be reluctant to reproduce it.
Gill, you forced me to have a look at the Seychelles Constitution regarding the National Assembly and the 90 days absence -- Article 81(1)(d)(ii)
While there, I read up Article 81 (1)(i). This article bans members from crossing the floor.
You can only cross the foor and remain an MNA if you REFUSE to formally inform the speaker in writing that you have changed political parties.
How did you manage to get round this provision in the constitution ? Was it collusion with SPPF ?
Jean-Paul just wanted to teach us something to think about...:) He is certainly persistent in his messages.
Re; cross the floor
Simple, this proves we were wrong all these years as he never crossed the floor in the real sense of the word if he did not follow the procedures.
Re; cross the floor
Simple, this proves we were wrong all these years as he never crossed the floor in the real sense of the word if he did not follow the procedures.
So did the authorities ask him to remove the post then??
SNP has become the Cross the Floor Party, pity is it not?
When you focused on the speck on my eye, you ignored the plank on yours.
The Lord punished you, and took your Executive Committee and made them all almost,SPPF.
Who is left in SNP?
Even Brain Julie, your next MNA to give credibility to PL is an ex People's Assembly MNA. Ironic is it not?
You could not do better then that? Example, offer Mr. Boulle a seat and he could take it or send a person capable.Volcere could have done the same. He has not done enough for the opposition while Ramkalawan went to hibernation? Viral Dhanjee who has put up a noble fight, and has not sold out, could not be brought in for the sake of unity in the opposition?
Pauline Ferrari cannot become an MNA for SNP because she is a Vice Consul for SPPF PL Paris.
St. Ange your Treasurer, is gone, like a bad wind to your back.
Pierre, disappeared with Sr. 2.5 Million I understand.
D. Barra, was tired of taking the bus to do reports, when you people were replacing your four wheel drives with leather seats sedans.
He could get close to a car only to wash one. Then you wonder what happened to him.
If you treat a man like a dog long enough, one day he will bit you like a dog. This is what has happened in SNP camp.
You wonder why SNP is being dumped faster then a bad take away box?
SNP has few loyal supporters. The supporters in the opposition are loyal to a cause to remove PL.
Go to sleep, you will be hanged by your own people.
Break the Boycott line, you will be finished.
Keep on poking me recklessly, without unifying the opposition, you will see Seychelles on DSTV from Tannarivo.
Seselwa must see through the games the SNP is playing. It is a shame.
The leadership is shameful. I am personally embarrassed to be associated with a bunch of sell outs!
Hence, why I keep my distance and do the work necessary inspite of the attacks.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
"Turnout yesterday made us all realise that Seychellois have seen who is better placed to lead our country further.
This will not only be a knock out, but will be a knock down forever. The amount of people in town showed how hard we have worked in all district.
Donn li ankour senk. My 2 years old also sings this song with on her heart."
This is what Andre from Mtfleuri posted on his facebook wall and to tell you the truth he's probably right and we deserved it . The sad thing we still havent managed to address our one single failure point. To unite our strength and this dear colleagues is what SPPF is thriving on..keep it up you make us all proud...
I've read this thread and cannot help but wonder, will SNP see the bigger picture?
Really, why would a party that has finally gotten some power over SPPF/PL, give in and go to the Assembly when the government says it is time to go? Why not keep the momentum , hold on for a while and show that they too are powerful??
On another note, I am not surprised about the recent incident involving Mr. Sullivan. To be fair one cannot threaten a president and expect to get away with it. However, if there is no evidence then he surely must be released. For me, I think the bigger picture here is the judicial system and its lack of professionalism.
For example, I know that there is a top table tennis athlete who was arrested last year for robbery and confessed. The court gave various sanctions against him, yet he was allowed to train in China for a month and given various other athlete treatment. Why?? Because the court system is messed up and the Indian Ocean Games are near. To top it off, his court case that was due this month has now been pushed to next year! It makes me wonder, if the judiciary will also delay Mr. Sullivan's case , like the table tennis athlete who is above the law? Or will his case be fast-tracked?
BTW, I wonder what Facebook would think if they found out that their own site/company is involved in a case in court? Wonder what the international community would say.
We still don't have a quote of what he said?
Joke? What joke? This is pathetic.
BREAKING NEWS: An arab sheikh has just been sold another island. Unclear whether it is Coetivy or one of those close to Mahe. "en nouvo sesel" means a seychelles as a colony of the arabs. SNP meanwhile has gone underground and is failing those who voted for them.
The way I see it, I should have done like everybody else during election - I was offered 4,000 rupees- take the money and stayed home. Ramka is a disgrace to accept to the assembly. To achieve what? Mon vot zot pa pou bez li zanmen ankor.I'm now beginning to wonder whether they're not in a deal with sppf.
These anti-SNP posts, it is difficult to know whether they are true SNP supporters or PL supporters posing as SNP.
What work does PL do in the districts, apart from the work of the District Administration which uses government money ?
James Mancham is back telling us what he has been preaching in Egypt -- the sort of stuff that he does not have the courage to speak in Seychelles in case he loses his Founding President privileges.
Are you calling James Michel a liar ? He said on Freedom Square there was no vote-buying.
not only that.... he really thinks that they've knock down the opposition for good..hes an arrogant
twat whos got he's head so far up PP's A** he can hardly see anything else.
There will be more international ignominy for Seychelles, if someone is jailed for writing on Facebook.
The 2 SBC interviewers had long faces. Who can blame them, being sent by James Michel to interview James Mancham and having to be so close they could smell his breath.
I found it hard to believe that a country that continues to affirm that they are a democratic country at the same breathe sent people to remand centre for voicing their opinions in the media.
But then, I should not be surprised it is the Seychelles,,,,,,,,,, after all it belongs to "I do not know who"
Shame shame shame
Reply to difficult to know source of anti SNP posts-
PL wants SNP right where they are, so why would PL bother exposing SNP.
SNP leadership is fighting to be and remain No 2. For PL, this is an early Christmas that will never see a New Year!
In my mind, the comments are highly valid most of them and they seem to come from opposition minds and brains. It is a little like DNA, if you read them closely.
SNP is Pathetic. You do not need PL to tell you that.
Seselwa Unite to be No.1.
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Reply to Michel Parrot:
The Elections were rigged.
The Voters List is rigged.
The results a SHAM.
We do not need Sarkozy of other disconnected people to tell us that.
Could RAMKALAWAN win if the results were not shammed?
With a divided oppostion very unlikely.
With a united opposition yes, likely, in spite of himself and the incompetence of his leadership.
But the opposition had many other capable leaders, who could carry the day, if RAMKALAWAN has stepped down after the 2006 elections.
He hogged influence, now what he hogged is strangling him to political death.
Naive leaders all have one thing in common: they never know when it is time to go out gracefully.
That is why they end up being tossed out! Failing that, the people deal with them.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
JRM is a sell out!
The culture of sell out that he has advocated for years, has left a dubious mark on our culture since his return April 12, 1992.
Everyone needs to know, with conviction that what JRM profess is the work of the devil on a man's personal sense of security.
It shows that among us, there can be potentially great men, who b/c great cowards before our eyes when faced down and squeezed by Tyranny and Dictatorship, the DNA of Communism.
You must find it in your hearts to pardon him for his weaknesses, but do not forget him.
Sideline him in your mind, so you can move on.
The more you rehash JRM's failures, the more you encourage other great Seychellois, to take the easy road, and coward before Tyranny.
When more and more people coward before Tyranny, who will be left standing?
For this, we owe JRM great thanks, for teaching our people since 1992, how to coward for a living.
His brother, Bill and Babby, Mickey Mancham, are rolling in their graves over his cowardice.
Pray for his courage.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
It cannot be easy to say this about your family, but sadly it's the reality. As you say we must sideline him in our minds and move on but the dissapointment and anger cannot help but resurface each time we see him reappearing to sell us out, once again.....
Gill, your accusations against Ramkalawan do not stand up. Unless in the court of Brassel Adeline.
The sell-outs are people like yourself.
PL use their party money during the 3-week campaign only. Even then they still use state resources. The so-called work in the districts is done using the country's resources. Michel, his ministers and district administrators campaign practically every day using public money. Yet they can only manage 55%.
I think it's time to give Christopher Gill a break. Calling him a sell out is a bit of a joke.
I don't like Christopher's Rasin Creed because I believe with some wisdom and less arrogance he could have carved himself an image from which today he would have been looked at seriously as a potential contender in the leadership political game. As it is now, it will take a longer time for him to prove himself and show himself to be wise as well as bold enough to handle the challenges ahead of Seychelles, so that he can not only talk the talk but walk the talk, with results. Until then he will have to bear the ridicule and scorn thrown at him even when he has valid points. He will have to learn through his mistakes.
Right now I see more sell out situations than I can attribute to Christopher and I am not a Chrisopher apologist nor I am a Lepep apologist.
Incidentally, the SNP blogger who seems to have doubts about the genuineness of the comments made in good faith as to the post-election developments regarding SNP, can keep burying his head in the sand. Hope that when he decides to pull it out it won't be too late.
That was the biggest fraud of the elections, the inability of Michel to separate the state's coffers and that of Lepep's. He was caught red handed in many instances but he could not care he arrongantly continued with "L'etat c'est moi" "Je suis L'etat". Good one!! and then we are thinking of going back to sit in the Assembly with them. What a joke...This is what I call sell out....And NO this comment does not come from Christopher Gill.
Reply to..PP using state money to fuel their political campaign ..Apparently PP MNA/Zavoka ti-andre wants us to believe that he worked very hard thats why pp has "knocked the opposition forever" his own words.courtesy of FB.
You know what, some of them may really believe that, the likes of Andre, have been brought up to believe that "L'etat c'est Rene, then Michel, then whoever comes after him" So they don't even find it strange that this is sick and wrong....
Gill can be called a sell-out because he crossed to floor to SPPF. He has no justification to call Ramkalawan a sell-out. It is pure name-calling on his part.
There is flurry of calls to get rid of Pp from power;there are worldwide calls to vanquish despots.The wall around Michel are crumbling,there no place for him to hide;his 55% win in the faked election will not save him.It goes without saying that the tyrant is terified and afraid.He has limited choices,for one,he would warn hell itself would break loose,going as far as arresting opponents on fabricated charges,Two,he could play a Gadhafi or an Assad.As we have witnessed in the unfolding history in N.Africa,bringing down a reviled tyrant is not a difficult task when people start speaking in one voice.We must do the same and our demands are simple,lucid and honest:Release our tongues so that we can speak;free our body so that we can move;let Seychellois go to where their mind directs and heart flows;let the dreams,intellingence will flows,vision will grow;let the seasoned and oppression use their wisdom ,their mind have rusted for too long.Our moment to stand up against the tyrant is here!we must act now!We must therefore unite and rise to defend freedom,democracy and human rights against tyrant who has omnived and made alliance with foreign despots and mercenaries to break up the country and bargain its soveregnty.
Sesel pou Seselwa!
Jeanne DÂrc
Gill, you forced me to have a look at the Seychelles Constitution regarding the National Assembly and the 90 days absence -- Article 81(1)(d)(ii)
While there, I read up Article 81 (1)(i). This article bans members from crossing the floor.
You can only cross the foor and remain an MNA if you REFUSE to formally inform the speaker in writing that you have changed political parties.
How did you manage to get round this provision in the constitution ? Was it collusion with SPPF ?
THE ABOVE IS FROM AN SNP SUPPORTER (I PRESUME)
It is called being hoisted by your own petard.
I have been given proof that he did not cross the floor, that is under our constitution. Any way what was the opposition doing then, did they also collude with the SPPF by not enforcing the right procedure.
As I have said before give Christopher Gill a break. I am opposition but I am fed up with your petty attacks when a lot of us have our back yards to clean up.
Christopher will never know in his wildest of dreams who is defending him here, because I have attacked him so much in the past, but as I have mentioned already we have a lot to clean up in our backyard.
Let's put a stop to this and move on with the challenges ahead of us, which our 45% electorate expects of us.
Reply to defender of Sell Outs!-
You say my accusations do not stand unless in a court with Brassel Adeline as Magistrate.
While that appears to be a slick response, it lacks depth of adequate defense and shows you are guilty as hell!
Which accusation is false? Kindly specify.
Finally, if you are right and I am wrong, use your name to make your assertions.
If you have the courage to use your name, use your real name. Don't use something like what we see you using on Facebook like,ahh: 1. Beer Bottle, 2. Gren-Wi 3 Jack bakka, Mon Fes Y Grate.
We need a more serious approach to remove SPPF PL and nullify sham elections.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
The opposition then was Gill's Democratic Party. There was nothing DP could do. It was up to Gill, as the elected member, to write to the speaker. The speaker would then have called a bye-election. Gill avoided the bye-election, by not informing the speaker in writing that he had crossed the floor. He did not do the right thing. He preferred to stay an MNA on DP's ticket while supporting the SPPF. Why did he not resign as required by the constitution ? Was it the money and perks ?
Article 81
Donot blame others for the floor crossing by SNP members who deffected just before the election in order to help PP redicule the oppostion and divided SNp internally resulting in its defeat.
And as A first class SNP supporter are you not ashame by the flip-flop comportment of those people you long put your fate in?We thought those persons made politics by convinctions but it turned out that they are just opportunists who are just there for self-interests and collaborate with pp tyranny stealling from the people.
Jeanne DÂrc
It is easy for Gill to call for a total boycott of the National Assembly. He is not in the National Assembly. When he was in the National Assembly, he did not want to come out and subverted the Constitutional provision against floor crossing.
SNP leadership must do what they think is right. Lives depend on their decisions.
After the last elections, Seychelles is like a powderkeg. The detention of Bernard Sullivan shows that Michel is willing to light the powderkeg.
Whoever Crosses a Boycott line is a Sell Out!
On Tuesday, they will line up to sell us all out!
DO NOT CROSS THE BOYCOTT LINE!
Boycott!
It is not only easy to call for a boycott but it is also a necessity and a strategy that works and if the momentum is kept pp will crack.Keep the pressur5e of autocrate Michel ,he is a giant with a feet of clay,like Mubarak ,will eventually fall.
Jeanne DÂrc
I still do not think that some posts pretending to be sympathetic to SNP but critical of SNP are genuine.
The extract from Clifford Andre's (PL MNA) FB page shows that.
Clifford Andre posted the message after the election rally. Yet they still managed 55% only.
Is it a surprise if the 2-year old kid of a PL MNA is singing the party's campaign song ? It is probably all they are hearing at home all day long. Hardly typical of the average Seychellois kid.
SNP Apologist-
There you go again, with your whinning lame, excuses, of why you do not have the courage to see a BOYCOTT through, called for by your leader, Ramkalawan, who is begining to look clearly like a big SELL OUT to me and many, many others.
I have no time for people who look at the PL SPPF and come up with a strategy to be No. 2 under neath their red skirts.
This has been SNP all along, looking to be NO. 2.
That is no opposition. We want to win and be No.1 SNP Apologist, don't you get it!
Your leader came up with the BOYCOTT and he should see it through or rest eternally.
You say Seychelles is a powder keg. So what? Seychelles has always been a powder keg since June 5th, 1977.
What makes June 5th, 2011 any different, your fat cat salary or your fat cat pension?
Now, to the person that says I am arrogant. I thank you for your critic.
As I said before, one must not confuse assertiveness with arrogance. There is a big difference.
If you are right on anything, I will secede the debate.
But if I am right, I expect you to do the same.
You call this arrogance?
In the finality of things, I ask you, what type of person does it take to remove the PL SPPF and nullify these elections?
It takes an assertive character.
Arrogance is a trait one finds in persons that see TRUTH, and go on denying it.
I cannot see anyone more arrogant then James Michel on the politcal playing field today. He bankrupts Seychelles, then runs again, instead of resigning, he ask for 5 more years. That is grade "A" Arrogance.
In the opposition, I cannot find anyone more arrogant then Wavel Ramkalawan. He loses elections, and sticks around to make a mess of things. I decent fellow would have resigned from his party and asked them to pave the way for unity in opposition and bring the curtain down on PL.
The World was never run or led by cowards.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
The boycott of the National Assembly has to be called by SNP, not Christopher Gill.
We now know that Gill did not leave the National Assembly when he should have done so.
Christopher will never know in his wildest of dreams who is defending him here, because I have attacked him so much in the past,
But I am sure he does know. He has the ability to put faces, names and facebook profiles to these anonymous posts.
"SNP WILL NOT GO BACK TO THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY UNTIL THE ELECTORAL REFORMS ARE IN PLACE"-WAVEL JOHN CHARLES RAMKALAWAN ( on SBC).
Words from your leader or is it leda? Make up your mind.
I bring light into your dark room, and you pooh all over the wall?
What kind of leadership are we dealing with in SNP?
Get serious or get on with it, go plant bananas or aubergines.
I agree with the BOYCOTT and I believe all MNA's MUST Boycott the NATIONAL ASSEMBLY.
When this is done, over a short period of time, you will:
BRING DOWN THE DICTATORSHIP- BY BOYCOTT.
Failing to see through the BOYCOTT you will-
KEEP IT FLOATING BY PARTICIPATING.
WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU WILL BE PART OF THE PROBLEM, SELL OUTS!
WHY?
STRATEGY FOR BEING NO.2 IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THE PEOPLE OF SEYCHELLES.
WE WANT AN OPPOSITION THAT WANTS TO BE NO. 1. AND HAS THE COURAGE TO TAKE STEPS IN THAT DIRECTION.
ALL YOU SAY, IS TO PROFESS THE NO.2STRATEGY as professed for years now, by Mr. Ramkalawan himself and JF Ferrari and Nicolas Prea.
For that, you fail all Seychellois!
If you are failing us, we do not need you.
Only SPPF PL needs you.....to be No.2.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
You agree with the boycott because you have nothing to lose.
When you had a salary, pension and perks to lose, you stayed put in the National Assembly, deliberately flouting your constitutional obligation.
ZOT OLI PAPA LABARB? E PAS VINN PRAN UN TI LABOASON LE 5 JUIN 1977?SERYE OU MAN.
From a pratical point of view SNP cannot afford to take part in any elections in the near future for the following reasons:
1. They do not have the candidates to fill in the Nat Assembly elections.
2. They know they will lose all elections as long as playing field is the way it is now.
3. Participating will bring their score even lower than it is now, it is noted that since 2006, the SNP % has been on the decreease (despite the fact that they chose since 2007 to ignore that fact), they can no longer hope for better.
4. SNP has been losing support to SPPF/PL rather than other opposition parties.
Vox
I woud not say that.
After the 2006 presidential elections, there were some who were saying that SNP would lose heavily in the 2007 assembly elections. SNP maintained its 11 seats.
There is a strong case to boycott the coming National Assembly elections -- sacrifice National Assembly representation to get more electoral and broadcasting reforms. SBC must be made to incorporate balance in the local news. The views of Michel and his ministers must be balanced by the view of the opposition in the same news bulletin. Heavy fines and prison terms should be imposed on the corporation and its senior executives if they fail.
Reply to SNP Loser-
You are fortunate to have me on line today.
2006 elections were run in an Alliance.
2007 elections were run in an Alliance.
20011 were run on a hostage-situation under no united opposition and Ramkalwan and SNP promised to win. They lost badly if you look carefully at the numbers. Of the votes garnered, thousands were hostage voters who had no choice in their minds but SNP, not because they were a good opposition, but because they were intellectually speaking closer to beating Michel then other candidates. This betrayal by SNP of the opposition, is exposed now.
You will not have a second chance to be NO.2 when you are hired to be No. 1.
You are a deceptive bunch.
But with a little work, and integrity, you are easily exposed.
If you betray the people again, with a BOYCOTT breaking effort on Tuesday, you are finished!
You will not find a dog to vote for you, even if you give him an ID.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Why did you not give up your MNA salary, pension and perks when you crossed the floor ? Your actions show you are a sell-out and unreliable. It shows you are unfit to criticise others. You, in return, just call me names.
Very strong attacks on SNP, but SPPF is still in charge, what's done is done. No use crying over spilt milk. We can carry on attacking SNP if we wish or try to find a solution, either way SPPF PARTI LEPEP is still ruling the country and it looks like it'll be theirs forever.
if you dont want us to call you names then put your real name down brother...
You right Pp is still around but WHY ?Because we did not have active and serious Oppostion Leaders to challenge Pp. In many cases RAm even collaborated with PP to prolong our suffering.Time is changing the gernie is out of the bottle,Pp must know that things will not be the same again.
Jeanne DÂrc
SNPP IS GOING BACK TO THE ASSEMBLY FOR WHAT?ARE THEIR AFRAID OF LOSING THIS 1000 RUPPEES.ITS BETTER TO LOSE THIS 1000 RUPPEES THAN TO LET PP CONTINUE TO DO THINGS THEIR WAY,
WHAT SOUGOULA THEY ARE THIS SNPP.PP are using them like puppet show.THIS NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SOULD BE USE FOR THEART NOT FOR POLITIC.ALL SICK POLITICIANS AND LIER BURN THOSE LIER.
Yea well SNP tried or some think they pretended to try, regardless let's move on. Cursing them that they weren't good enough, that they were sell outs, that they're loosing suporters isn't going to change anything but the course we're suppose to be on?? To be honest am not even sure what that is anymore for all i hear is personal insults.
Move on by accepting the same status quo that has been in place for thirty four years,why have opposition then? i would sa if SNP does have the gut to oppose Pp it must be disolved and RAM should do something else in stead of playing the opposition image of PP.The weak oppostion by RAm has helped to create the conditions and survival of Pp dictatorship.
Jeanne DÂrc
SNP Loser-
I do not call you names. I refer to you as "loser", because you said you had the most to "lose".
So I use the reference "loser" to refer to you on the blog since, worse then a "Loser" you have no name.
Now when I left National Assembly, I left and went off to do my business as a private person.
I did not take a salary with me . Nor did I take a pension. You SNP gave me a pension when you voted yourself one in conspiracy with SPPF.
You have a history of going into conspiracy with SPPF.
I use my pension today Sr. 3,000.00to fund political activities. In fact I spend as much as Sr. 50,000.00 per month on political activities to end the scourge of SPPF PL upon our country personally. Last year I spent over 2 Million, personally.
That money could be used to build a chateau like your Leader Ramkalawan, but I put it to better use, and I do not complain that I have no money to do politics.
Now, SNP LOSER- finally, I am not the issue, as you attempt to make me. The issue is the BOYCOTT called for by Mr. Ramkalawan himself, and now, called off by Mr. Ramkalawan himself.
What kind of a Party does something idiotic as that?
A LOSER PARTY.
What Party are we ironically speaking about today?
SNP.
What name do you go by: SNP Loser.
What else do I have to say to you?
Nothing.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Why?
Because we like being No. 1 not No. 2 in our own country no matter what party you were born into!
Christopher Gill
Reply to Jeanne D'Arc-
You have made a clearly insightful comment.
Picture SPPF PL as a tree of poison fruit destroying Seychelles, and Seychellois place in Seychelles with Communism and Autocracy.
Then picture fertilizer next to tree making it grow, to victimize each one of us who do not belong to SPPF PL.
That is SNP at this point, on Tuesday if they go into the National Assembly.
By calling the elections a sham, and calling for a BOYCOTT, we all pulled out our axes to take the poison tree down.
It can take 1 month or 1 year, the tree must come down.
SNP has opted to drop the ax, and jump into the fertilizer bag.
The bag of fertilizer will be delivered to us on Tuesday morning at 9.00 am.
This language, every ordinary Seychellois will understand, and we must repeat it until the opposition is united, SNP either has new leadership, or has closed down, like the Planters Party, another PP.
Never, again, must we accept any opposition party that seeks to divide the opposition!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Gill is not only a loser, Gill is a specialist egg sucker.
The affairs of SNP and Ramkalawan are no concern of his. Gill wants a piss of the action with SNP to unite the Oppositions but the reality is that not Gill the floor crosser nor Volcere can be trusted.
Gill crossed the floor so that he could buy cheap land on Praslin.
And Gill is also a gutless coward for refusing for the upteen time to answer a simple question as to "where were you born Gilliar Boyo?. Answer the simple question and forever hold your piss....errrhhhh peace.
And Gill Sullivan's freedom of speech and expression does not give that person to accuse someone or any one for that matter for being something that they are not.
And Gill, Zan dork and other egg-suckers can keep on aboyaying.
And please leave Sir James Mancham out of your cheap shit insults because if you don't, I will personally rip your bloody arms off.
...and if you dont stop interfering on our blog we will make you sit your "fess grate" on a cactus ...
It's the SNP party, for SNP supporters, if you do not agree with their policy you move on eh. Start a new party, stand up to SPPF, keep blaming SNP who has never ever ever ever been in power before, for what is going in the Seychelles right now is not helping anyone, it's not even right. It's up to the SNP supporters to decide what they want to do with their party, not us. Just like it's up to the SPPF supporters to vote their party in power. To be honest no matter what people say of SNP, without SNP we wouldn't get any sort of "Democracy" whatsoever.
As soon as the foreign election observers leave, Michel reverts to type. A sort of Idi Amin Dada -- a semi-educated military man in power. The police state -- suspended during the election campaign -- is back.
Without SNP we wouldnot have got any sort of democracy.Election alone does means we have democracy and election hold under autocratic rule have nothing to do with democracy,.Election is only a part of democracy.A party that has no strategy cannot win election,SNP has proven that three times.And how can one elect a person to the likes of RAm at the helm of the country when he cannot even manage a party.
Jeanne DÂrc
Yea well...start a new party....put the energy you are using to try to break them down even more but starting your own party. SNP goes by their rule. My gosh, what is the point of attacking an opposition party like so. Is it because of fear of addressing the one party - SPPF - who has caused the Country's chaos? Is it because it's easier for you to keep bringing them down because they are the weaker party?
"And how can one elect a person to the likes of RAm at the helm of the country when he cannot even manage a party."
It's their decision!!!!
1. I have a serious problem with the insults flying around on this blog.
2.I have a problem with understanding SNP's stance. One day they are boycotting , the next they're not.These inconsistencies are not new. It cannot do wonders for their credibility.All indications are that they will participate in the national elections when they are called and use the excuse that the review commission has been set up. They should know better. what has happened to the recommendations of the committees set up after the Reilly report? where is the review of the law on Public Order? where is the "independent SBC"? Where is the review of the constitution? Either Wavel is being naive or is a fool. There is no hope with a naive fool.
3. My advice is this: We either take matters into our hands and organise a peaceful demonstration (Papa Labarb accepts that this is acceptable) or we all shut up, put our heads down and let James Michel run HIS nouvo Sesel.
"LEAD OR FOLLOW. IF YOU@RE DOING NEITHER, GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY"
Lead of Follow. If you're doing neither, get the hell out of the way.
Someone please explain what James michel's "nouvo sesel" is?
Gill wants to be number 2. That's why he attacks SNP mainly.
En Nouvo Sesel was an election gimmick to fool PL supporters. There has been nothing new so far. Even the same ministers were sworn in after the elections.
ZOT OLI PAPA LABARB.MON ENVIE DONNE LI UN VERRE DIVIN LE 5JUIN 1977.
Gill needs to have a number two.
Seychellois opposition have united. They just have not united with Christopher Gill. 93% of the opposition supported SNP in the last election. By contrast, only 55% of people who voted voted for Michel. The country is split right down the middle but the opposition are united behind SNP.
Yes I agree, SNP belongs to SNP party supporters and I say put SNP in the bin if they do not Boycott assembly.
Reply to SNP concerns SNP.
I agree.
You do not have to worry about our efforts to form another party. The work is in process, though we do not expect it to be easy.
We brought in 200 new signatures for Gappy this week, and he gave us new members list that were numbered , and he told us to do it again and use his new numbered forms.
The only issue of contention I have is this: when a leader of any party makes a public statement, as Ramkalawan's call for a BOYCOTT is , that concerns all of the People of Seychelles.
He is accountable to us like any politician is. From that perspective he is no different then James Michel or myself.
Ramkalawan is no golden child. If he is in your book, feel free to continue reading your fairy tale, which includes facebook profiles such as , Gren -Wi , Murbarak the Gorilla that sits in his office, Jack Bakka ( party SG), Beer Bottle (himself) ,and recently added, characters called Kas Macadum, and John Mohammed ( another office sitter).
If this is Seychellois idea of a serious opposition, we are in real trouble.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
ZOT OLI PAPA LABARB NOUN FINI PREPARE SON VERRE DIVIN KI E TI MANKE POU BOIR LE 5 JUIN 1977.
Gill, what evidence do you have that these Facebook profiles belong to the people you mention ?
You have got it wrong about me. You must have got it wrong about these profiles too.
You are not serious. You think your money should buy you political influence and power. You will always be a figure of fun.
SNP APOLOGIST
For the moment opposition is united,so far so good,but for how long will it holds when one the flip-flop startegy of RAM?
Opposition must not only united but must also have demands and have their own propositions.They should constantly question the government and make the government answerable to the public at all times,put the spotlight on the issues and have them resolved quickly.Non leaders like RAM oppose for the sake of opposing becuase they do not have a preditermined policy in important issues.A party without prescribed policy framework will have leaders giving off the cuff remarks on issues which someone has spent days and nights to conceiving and tend to make justs of it.All great leaders have something in common,VISION.This is what determines their actions and dicisions.Any edifice that is biult of false,lies,deceit crumbles like a house of cards.If the character of a leader is built on false edifice of lies and deceit,he will soon or later be exposed and the people will discard him in such a way that he would not have anyone to serve him water on his deathbed.This natural justice,feeling of rejection is slow and a apinful process.
So I hoping that RAM will make the right judgement and hold on the boycott.
Sesel pou Seselwa!
Jeanne DÂrc
"All great leaders have something in common,VISION." like MR Michel's eh.
"If he is in your book, feel free to continue reading your fairy tale."
Not at all, he's not in my book, i don't read fairytales - that's for the children of seychelles mrs mondon said - i believe in the power of the people, which unfortunately i don't believe we as a people have any power. Our first and foremost intention is to insult. Insult to win votes works all the time. We are very easy to bribe probably because we are a poor country. All poor countries have their fare share of rich people. And that starts from the ones in Power. The richest and most powerful and why because we wanted them there. NOw everyone wants a piece of the pie and they will do whatever it takes to get a piece, no matter how tiny the piece is compared to the richest.
And when you think about it, who's pie is it? It's the people's. A bit like the Pyramid scheme really. Only my man's in jail now.
SNP APOLOGIST-
Anyone who followed the debates with these fake profiles, know where they came from.
It is a total shame that this is what SNP offered as an alternative to PL.
PL tried this fake profile thing with MSR and they were soon running for cover.
But SNP thought they could beat us and they were wrong and they failed to win one single argument and they are condemned now to Anonymous status and fake profile status like you forever, as long as I live. Not one single SNP persona of high ranking can face me because I have exposed all of you individually, collectively as sell outs!
The biggest sell out is the ex Paid Informant for Ogilvy Berlouis in the Seychelles College protests.
I do not buy influence with money. My brains and ability and sense of right and wrong has done just fine by my side.
You SNP APOLOGIST- you come from bad stock of decpetion, street gutter tactics, which is why no one gave you a cent in the campiagn and you had the nerve to cry about it on SBC. You have all been exposed.
Example: Ramkalawan wants to sue Ramadoss for an article, after the elections. He should be suing the Electoral Commissioner and Michel, for conspiracy to sham elections.
More games, just to look like the victim, but yet, make the right moves, to keep the pay check coming.
Stop wasting our time SNP APOLOGIST!
Say hello to SNP Loser for me.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Who is going to unite with you ?
Who will unite with you.... "as you are"?
We never said we will accept you as you are.........
Unification has conditions, Priestly leader. In the real world, one keeps his word, and does not just use words, to fool good well intentioned people.
Every day, people are opening their eyes.
I have been kind to you so far. I have not unleashed, what can melt you like an ice cream cone in the sun.
Thread softly with respect.
See you on Tuesday in the BOYCOTT line or on the other side!
Take your pick!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
IF SNP STEPS OVER THE LINE THEY ARE NOT ONLY LOSERS BUT A PARTY OF SELL OUTS.
I ALWAYS FELT UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN C. GILL USED THESE WORDS,BUT NOW I FIND THE USE AND ASSIGNMENTS OF SUCH DEFINITIONS TO THESE PEOPLE FOR THEIR INTENDED DECISIONS AND ACTS AS 100% SPOT ON AS THERE IS NOTHING TO SALVAGE OUT OF THEM.
Enough of wasting time with Ramkalawan, his band of jokers and SNP. They've been a waste of time and space. And so many of us believed in them! Let them return to the assembly with their tails between their legs. soon they'll be falling flat on their face -AGAIN. Anyone with a little bit of intelligence would know that you cannot repeat the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. We're screwed with James michel and Lepep and equally screwed with Ramka and SNP.
You're either Leading or following. If you're doing neither, get the hell out of the way............
Finally Gill has recognised the obstacle to his "seselwa unite" or "unite the opposition" -- him. You want people to change, so that they can unite with you.
You are making this up as you go along. SNP is going to the National Assembly on Tuesday. What don't you lead a boycott demonstration at the same time ?
On Tuesday, Gill, lead or follow. Or get out of the way.
SNP Apologist and SNP "Loser"-
Both of you.
The promise to unite the opposition is a promise made by Ramkalawan in exchange for my speech before his convention.
I took great political risk to do this speech in exchange for him to keep his word and unite the opposition.
This is Ramkalawan's only card. It has always been his only value to anyone since we knew in 2006 he cannot win elections, but can place a good No.2. .
We all know he is not leadership material. This is no secret.
But we courted him b/c he held a key card that can be played to remove the SPPF PL.
Having not played the unity card, instead making personal attacks on me, Volcere, Boulle and others, he divided the opposition. In the end, he hostaged other opposition supporters for a vote for him since a vote for them was a vote for Michel. This is a nail in a coffin my friend.Tuesday will be another one if you cross the Boycott line.
Unity is not hard. It starts in the heart.
But to get there, you need to sacrifice a little in your pocket.
For this Ramkalawan and SNP will not do, because they have been "meal" trained by the SPPF PL to turn up for meals and play along to give the PL credibility.
In exchange, they have a comfortable life that they otherwise may not have. The occasional land transfer of government land as well.
They did that when I called for a united opposition, exposure of the fraudulent voters list, Boycott of elections, and they will do it now when they break their own BOYCOTT of National Assembly.
The road forward is this:
Wait until Tuesday, give Ramkalawan the benefit of the doubt in spite of himself. Wait for his absence or attendance at the National Assembly.
Then we will take the next step as per his actions.
The rest of the opposition from Boulle camp and Volcere NDP need to open minds and heart so we can chart a course forward all of us.
Everyone has an important role to play, and in this fight, you cannot sideline people, because you do not like what they say, or what their political colors are. This is self defeating from the start.
All our skin together, in collectivity need to be thicker then soft shell SNP, and you need to be more resilient then them to dig th eopposition out of the whole Ramkalawan has put us in perpetually, if we let him.
I read Seychelles Today, and Ramkalawan will not consider Allain St. Ange or Marc Hoareau as a replacement. St. Ange I can understand, it has become personal to Ramkalawan. But Marc Hoaraeu or another person, I cannot understand the justification for the lashing out in Seychelles Today.If he is not a registered member, make him one, silly.He may just save your Party that you are ruining. He may save you from yourself as well.
Besides, I cannot understand why is it Ramkalawan who chooses his replacement when Nicolas Prea was voted as Vice President by the bunch of people at the Conference Center,without a real vote.
The joke on the People of Seychelles is up, SNP!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Someone who endorsed James Michel will then lead SNP. Are you guys serious ? St Ange has cooked his goose. We should not trust any St Ange.
SNP has said it will be in the National Assembly on Tuesday. You do not have to wait and see if it happens.
This 'wait and see' seems like another excuse for you not to come off your blog and into the streets.
I too wondered at Wavel's comments in Seychelles Today. Surely if Alain St. Ange is a member of SNP it will be for the membership to decide if they want him or not and likewise should Mark Hoareau become a member he should be free to put himself forward as a leader. Wavel's total dismissal of the two guys smacks of a very dictatorial attitude. He could have been a bit more tactful in his statements if only to pretend to us that his membership has a say in the affairs of the party. By the way I thought Mark Hoareau once a very important financial backer of the party kept a party card.
Anyone who did not support SNP in 2011 presidential election is not fit to lead the party. We need someone who supports the party through thick and thin. Not all supporters will always agree with the party leadership. Those who flirt with PL because they do not agree with the party's current leadership are unfit to lead it when a vacancy comes up.
Reply to SNP Cooked Goose-
We wait and see what will happen precisley because SNP is a bunch of flakes that waiver and change their minds at every turn of the road.
It is Ramkalawan that said he will not go back with SNP into the Assembly until Reforms are in place.
So naturally, because we have ears, connected to our heads, we have eyes, in our heads, and a brain that functions,we were alerted and concerned by the sudden change of course, without the condition precedent of reforms being put in place, being met.
St. Ange may had cooked his goose, but SNP has a list of cooked gooses sitting around the botanical garden.
Let me refresh your recollection if you like, just give me the go ahead.
But ID yourself, honestly as SNP cooked goose himself.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Go on, recite the well-known litany.
Reply to "unfit to run SNP"-
Wow, you really sound tough and principled when it comes to stepping down and handing over leadership of your great party at coming in on No.2 all the time.
Now let us see who is unfit to lead:
1. St. Ange you say, but he is a card carrying member of SNP;
2. Marc Hoareau is not fit, because he no longer backed you through your thin years, while you were building your MANSION at St. Louis;good one.
3. Ah, JF Ferrari- Coup soldier, is fit to run SNP? His father Dr. Ferrari used the Land Acquisition Act to deny Seychellois their property for the REVOLUTION. Good one.I mention both because they are like eek and meek on the day of the coup;
4. What about Pauline Ferrari, the designer of Zomn Lib, and Vice Consul to Michel and founder of Mon Fes Y Grate, is she fit to run SNP? Of course, a possibility.
5. Moving on, Ramkalawan, an ex paid informant to Ogilvy Berlious, whose information caused the arrest of dozens of Seychellois in the One Party State, is he fit to run SNP? I should think not from looking from the outside.But you may think differently.
6. Annette Goerges, the Notary and lawyer that gave Felicite Island to Rene crony for Sr. 1.0. Is she fit to lead the opposition? I doubt it.
7. Ok, running out of options. Now, Bernard Goerges, can he do it, the former attorney of MAFIA boss Mario Ricci and Notory for Sr. 1.0 deal with Sheik Khalifa?
Any other takers out there?
Why don't you name them.
8. Volcere? No information Ramkalawan gave Berlious landed him in jail then exile. He is unfit to lead SNP.
9. Boulle? No. He is too smart and will abandon Vizyon as a medium.
10. Forgive and forget, like a good Christian, call David Pierre and tell him to take over, like you said in your pathetic SNP Loser speech before a group of young Seychellois that were so desparate for change and a word of youth from you.
Neither, did you deliver.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Reply to SNP Litany Lunatic-
Yes I recite the chorus line, because it exposes you and the fraud you have become.
It exposes your corrupted nature as a leader, and explains why you have failed us over and over again and again.
It reveals why good men stray away from you and you left with drug addicts paid 300.00 for half days work in the campiagn.
You in fact, want five (5) years of pleasure again off our backs, and to perpetually keep the opposition of Seychelles at No. 2.
This is why, you offer no substantive defence to what I assert.
Not today, not yesterday, and not ever.
You are a grand failure, that thinks very highly of yourself, so long as you are surrounded by "yes men".
For this we have no tolerance for anymore, as you continue to eat into our existence, with your sell out effort. Your perverted thinking keeps SPPF PL in power, for this Rene chose to let you live and placed you on the VIP list, which you relish.
What happen to your humility as a priest?
What happened to your humility as a leader?
What happened to your humility as a man?
You will fool Seychellois no more.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
It is for the SNP members to decide who their next leader should be. SNP would want to remain SNP- not the right wing of Parti Lepep. As a result, Alain St ange has absolutely no place as Leader. Besides, he's made his position very clear at the last elections. If elected Leader, would he now tell SNP members that James michel was not doing a "good job" afterall or would he move to merge SNP with Lepep,"dAN LENTERE NASYONAL"?
Ramka and SNP are going back to the assembly. you guys better get real, come out from behind your computer or desk top and do what you think SNP should have done.Or would you prefer to wait, because it suits you, and then complain?
Get real guys!
I read Today newspaper and was shocked to read Mr. Ramkalawan's statement that Marc Hoareau was not a card holding member of SNP and that he therefore could not be considered to lead the party.
Does that mean that the 25,000 people who voted for SNP are all members with party cards? Does that mean that someone without a party card cannot run the party or take over from Mr. Ramkalawan? Can someone enlighten me on this subject matter? Or is Mr. Ramkalawan afraid to resign as leader of the party? Has Ralph Volcere not resigned from DP?
So we are being told that the SNP will go back to the National Assembly on Tuesday, what a dissapointment and a let down but not totally unexpected.
What they will show us clearly is that there is a reason why they did not make it to form a government - that they are incompetent and lack consistency for if they were unable to hold their ground and formulate a plan of action to boycott the government until the opposition satisfactorily got what we were asking then how could they have formed a government to run our country.
If their egos were so big that they were unable to reach out to other people in the opposition to discuss a strategy then it shows what kind of government they would have put in place.
If they were so anxious to go back to the Assembly because they were unable to sacrifice the salaries they were getting then we know what kind of government we would have had, ie. first their pockets and then the people second.
A people gets a government and an opposition it deserves. Some of us will always always stand up for ourselves in this world and I am one of them, but I feel terribly sad for those who had put their trust in SNP because they thought SNP could defeat Lepep.
I do not know what the next five years hold for us but it does not look like we can expect much from the SNP.
Free Spirit!
Sonson cross the floor!
"Christopher gill taye vini vitman christopher gill taye vini vitman, christopher gill taye vini vitman snp in cross the floor zot pe retourn dan lasanble."
This is what a blogger on another forum wrote on 24th May 2011.
-----Ramkalawan has overcome a certain level and has seen the light and is now ready to fight back and that is scaring the shit out of the PL as they needboth him and SNP. He is now cooperating with the rest of opposition, an act that PL doesn't want to happen and an act that Seychelles needs in order to dres lap lagel James Michel and his faithful little dog Gappy-----
How long ago 24th May seems! More like James Michel in dray lapo lagel Ramkalawan e fors li fer en about turn.....
That blogger reflected the feelings of many of us!!!!
On Tuesday we will see if RAM after his painful defeat has learnt from his past mistakes or is going to accept the poisoned chalice being offered by PP.As the adage goes"as a dog returns to its vomit ,so a fool repeat his folly.
Jeanne DÂrc
NO ONE SHOULD MAKE A SINGLE ACTIVE MOVE OVERTLY OR COVERTLY FROM TODAY UNTIL......
.. SUPER SELL OUT TUESDAY,....
...WHEN SNP AS PER WAVEL JOHN CHARLES RAMKALAWAN GOES BACK INTO THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY TO SELL US OUT TO PL WITH THEIR DOG AND PHONY SHOW!
For you who are calling on me to lead, I am already leading and have been for a long time.It just has not been official because we are not official.
We are not passive.
Today, Seychelles Freedom Party (SFP) is signing up members and I encourage you to register and contribute to a solid opposition, that we can all build, to remove the PL.
There should be no other agenda.
Because the PL is the source of Seychelles BANKRUPCTY and the sources of SEYCHELLOIS losing their country.
After Super Sell Out Tuesday , go to Docklands No 16 and register as a member of Seychelles Freedom Party (SFP) . Bring your ID and give your phone number, district and any additional information on your family friends neighbors. Provide information on your special talents and skills and tell us how you can help. It can be just stacking chairs, that is a skill,under SNPL.
We can do better, and we think people like Marc Hoareau and others like Ralph Volcere, and Phillipe Boulle have very important roles to play in Seychelles. These men are icons in their own right, and Ramkalawan steps on them to stay No. 2 and drive the car of a dead Ambassador?
If you take the SNP line of BS, all the smart people in this country have already been regulated to third class citizens. PL wants to make us 4th class.
Our future is in the hands of Mancienne, who cannot comb his hair, or file properly, Georges, a lawyer that works for Khalifa, Ferrari, the tantrum man from the Coup of June 5th, 1977, and Brian Julie ex People's Party MNA who says he is clean, and Ramkalawan who was an ex paid informant to Ogilvy Berlouis in the One Party State.
I reject that, because Seychelles deserves the best she has to offer.
We want a winning strategy, that takes the opposition to No.1 not remain perpetually in No. 2.
If you do the numbers, SNP has been the opposition for 17 years, add 5 more years they will be No.2 for 22 years. This is a joke, and every single Seychellois must take a hand of soil from our motherland after SUPER SELL OUT TUESDAY and throw it in the wind to bury SNP once and for all, for selling us out!
Then we will deal with SPPF PL.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Anyone who wants to lead a party should be a registered member of that party. We should be suspicious of anyone who becomes a member simply to be able to stand as leader of the party. You also can't be a registered member of more than one political party.
Gill clearly has political ambitions but he is a poor political strategist.
Anyone who believes in the Seselwa rasin/fabrike nonsense cannot be a member or leader of SNP because that is not party policy. You join a political party if you believe in what it stands for.
Gill, here's an idea. Get M Hoareau to join your party. Make him leader. If he is popular, people will flock to him and your party. SNP will have cooked its goose by not begging Marc Hoareau to join the party and be its leader. Personally, I think he is just another businessman with money to fund a political party but does not have the wide popular appeal that Ramkalawan has. It is amazing how many people want to be leader, but want Ramkalawan to make way for them so that they can become leader on his coat-tails.
Gill, you still have not explained why you did not resign from the National Assembly and allow a bye-election when you crossed the floor, as required by the constitution. You joined SPPF in the National Assembly while pretending to still be a DP registered member, this is how you avoided a bye- election.
Can we trust someone who flushes the constitution down the toilet when the constitution does not suit him ?
Reply to" Slick SNP Sell Out"!
You really think very very highly of yourself. It reminds me of a big fat red balloon, then it lands on the green grass and "pop"! Gone! All the hot air is removed instantly.
I do not want to be a member of SNP. I would not stoop that low with the current group of crooks running the SNP.
That includes your leadership.
Now, to reply to your senseless points:
SNP Apologist said: " Marc Hoareau cannot be a leader of SNP because he is not a registered member".
Now, I do not know if Marc Hoareau would have any interest in rehabilitiating SNP.But people are calling on him to do so.
I do know Mr. Hoareau is an incredibly successful buniness personality and with that, he must be a great people person aswell. You do not run numerous companies successfully by being stupid, "Slick SNP Sell Out".
In line with "SNP Apologist" and "SNP Loser" argument, I said: register him as a member, then you may have a unifying force. That would solve the membership BS which is nothing more then a red herring for someone that does not want change.
I recall well Hoareau was on an SNP stage for an election, when you did have a stage.
This election you did not have a stage to bring everyone in, so many people did keep away, and went about their business, because they did not feel any urgency in doing much.
Plus, you can a campaign of division in the opposition. Who in a micro communist state small community will support openly a opposition that campiagns for division in the opposition? You would have to be mad.
That does not mean they that did not support you cannot do the job? No.
Additionally, what is the job to run SNP as No. 2 for 22 years more? No. The job is change of regime.
SNP leadership is showing me one thing, between "SNP APOLOGIST", "SNP Loser" ,and now, you "Slick SNP Sell Out", you are a bunch of pathetic digracefully idiotic people, that cannot even use logic to come to a reasonable conclusion in an argument.
You all jump on distant irrelevant branches, then hang your arguments on that. Then you think you are smart and act slick for it as if you all drink the same peepee water.
This type of thinking can work well in the One Party State when people live in fear, and step aside to let the next fool run the show to dodge a bullet.
It will not work well when you are dealing with people like myself, who put our lives on the line to bring greater justice and Freedom to Seychelles.
You make Bozo look like a viable Presidential candidate for SNP at the rate you all are going.
Or is it just one man with many fake profiles now?
Like I said, SPPF PL loves SNP right where they are, and they will pay to keep SNP right where they are.
You SNP can do whatever you want, I want no part of you "as you are":
Sell Outs!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Reply to "SNP Obsession" over SEAT in National Assembly-
I was elected in my own right with a mandate to use my judgment. No one else was elected in DP since. Even Ramka has lost that election and came in on PR.
I did not have to resign from my seat because I never joined SPPF.
Crossing the floor is a standard parlimentary procedure I used to stay alive when my party was selling us all out!
SPPF Rene was sending thugs to my house to kill me and my party leader my Uncle James Richard Marie Mancham was behind it in conspiracy with Rene at the time.
I have numerous letters documenting this.
I was spoiling Mancham's soup to sell us out, and he did not like it.
That is why he used armed men at the DP Convention on me from RENE's PMU to keep me from challenging him.
I told you that many times before.
You are preoccupied with this incident, and as you remain fixated, more people have crossed the floor in your party then I ever thought would . They did it for money, all of them, like all of you now. I never took a penny from SPPF. SNP at the time was as pathetic as it is today. But not everyone knew it. Now, everyone will know the TRUTH.
Now, I understand, from State House Informant, there is another group that will do the same thing, before the next Assembly elections coming up.
One of them, happens to be a paid informant, similar to what Wavel did to the Seychelles College students, during the protests. He sits in the Assembly with Wavel Ramkalawan.
Thread softly, sell outs!
It is getting confusing in your camp.
It will only get worse, until you start to listen to me.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Ramkalawan was explaining why the article that appeared in the Chinese newsagency and Malango in Comores and reproduced by Rising Sun was wrong. The article said that the SNP executive committee had considered St Ange and Hoareau as possible replacement for Ramkalawan.
Ramkalawan said that the meeting did not take place. The two names were wrong. Furthermore the Executive would not have discussed St Ange because he appeared in PL election broadcast. And Hoareau is not a party member. How could that discussion have taken place ?
Ramkalawan was explaining how that press report was wrong. Can't you lot read English ?
You decided to join SPPF in the National Assembly.
To avoid a bye-election, you did not resign from DP or join SPPF. This is deceitful. It was a corrupt manoeuvre to keep your seat in the National Assembly, whereas honourable members are required by the constitution to resign in such circumstances.
You make up accusations against Ramkalawan. But the case against you as a dodgy politician is open and shut.
Ramkalawan is suing Ramadoss and Rising Sun for publishing lies about origins and misuse of party funds. Rising Sun reproduced the article that appeared in the Chinese newsagency report. Ramkalawan is saying that the article was a fabrication.
Will Gill's party allow non-registered members to stand for election as leader and executive members ?
Isn't it ironic that it is Marc Hoareau's newspaper Today that has allowed Ramkalawan the chance to explain his lawsuit of Rising Sun and also give him the opportunity to be on the front page of a daily newspaper?
Does Ramkalawan think the state funded Nation paper is going to give him front page cover and that SBC is going to cover his lawsuit of Ramados's Rising Sun? He should be thankful to Today for the coverage and he should see that Hoareau has no issues with him or with anyone else for that matter. Hoareau is just a good businessman.
One good thing that could come out of the lawsuit is that Ramados would get a taste of his own medicine and hopefully he will lose in court and Ramkalawan will walk away with a few more millions.
It is difficult keeping up with Christopher Gill. A few weeks ago, he was calling on Wavel Ramkalawan to unite the opposition. Now he is telling SNP he does not want to unite "as you are".
He is making up his position as he goes along.
Another way to look at it is that Today got an exclusive and stuck the boot into Rising Sun.
Perhaps Ramkalawan was telling those people who want a leadership role in SNP, they should join the party, nail their colours to the mast and pledge their loyalty to party policies, and the leadership at the time.
Supporters and financial backers are free agents. Party members have to comply with party discipline.
If Alain St Ange has not resigned, he should be asked to explain his action. If he deliberately endorsed Michel, he should be thrown out of the party.
Yes a few weeks ago the opposition were told to unite in order to deligitimize Pp faked lection,and if the would have do not beofre the election the situation would have much difficult for PP,Michel would not have benn dancing ar freedom Square.It was only after RAM was crushed that ran to call the Opposition to unite for a boycott of the results,which Volcere and Boulle did without hesitation,but for whatever reasons now RAM probably without consulting with Volcere nad Boulle will be going to the rubber stamp Assembly to legitimize Pp faked victory.So when you call for a boycott by all oppostion leaders and then you turn and act unillaterally as RAM is about to do,then one must question the credibility of such a person.
Jeanne D'Arc
Heavens forbid that Marc Hoareau sent his reporter to interview Ramkalawan because he wanted to know whether the executive committee had discussed him ! It is the sort of thing we would expect from Ramadoss.
Gill, you totally misunderstood the report in Today and the context in which the names were mentioned. The article was about the pending defamation case and not the leadership potential of the two people mentioned.
You are a crackpot.
You can't deny the fact that Wavel came across as belittling Mark Hoareau, and being somewhat dismissive of his strong connections with the SNP including being major financial backer once upon a time. I quote Today....the party will never consider Alain St.Ange....the name of Mark Hoareau makes even less sense, he said, seeing that the latter is not even a member of the SNP.
Yes, strange, and he referred to these allegations as total rubbish...somewhat on the defensive and do I detect feeling a wee bit threatened....
All these talk of people now coming forward wanting to claim the leadership of the party - No less - smack like vultures to me. Where were Marc Hoareau and St Ange in the last campaign? Didn't Marc Hoareau, who could have stayed quiet, prefer to be interviewed by SBC congratulating government on its 2020 vision? Didn't St Ange opt to take part in Michel's PPB? As someone has said before, the leadership of the party is an internal party matter.Members will decide who they want as their leader, based on which direction they want the party to take. If they want it to oppose Michel head 0n, they'll go for Ferrari. If they want it to stay where it is, it'll go for Prea, if it wants to be the right wing of parti lepep it'll go for St Ange. Marc hoareau has no place in there until he becomes a member. But if he has the ability to be a great party leader, what stops him from forming his own party? Why would he want to pick up the pieces left over by Ramka? Vultures pray on dead meat. I'm sure Marc would not want to be compared to a vulture?
Ramkalawan was not belittling anyone. He was saying that the article about his resignation was a total fabrication. To prove his month, he said that the executive could not have discussed Hoareau as a potential leader because Hoareau is not a party member. The meeting on which the Chinese article was based did not take place.
Businessmen do not necessarily make good party leaders, despite their money.
Many businessmen were against PL because of the state of the economy and forex crisis which hampered their business of making money. With the IMF economic reforms, they may not take the view now.
The party leader needs to be ideologically committed to the party, like ordinary party members.
To prove his point ...
You miss the point. Ramkalawan was talking about his case against Rising Sun and why the article was false. He was not talking about SNP leadership changes.
And you think that Wavel is ideologically committed to his party. Don't think so, but the going is too good for him so he stays on. Doubt whether he would be able to go back to priesthood neither would he make a good businessman. Why else do you think he and others colluded with SPPF/Lepep to donate themselves these fat salaries and gratuities. This has made them lazy and complacent - the main reason why they are going back to the National Assembly.
Marc Hoareau has been a friend of Wavel since they were young and both living at St.Louis. I know them both and know that they were both at Seyco at the same time, were both in the Scott team and were both great squash players. Hoareau left Seychelles to study overseas and when he returned to Seychlees, his friendship with Wavel blossomed. Hoareau supports a democratic Seychelles and has never had any time for Rene and Michel's communist system. Of course he would back his friend Wavel and I am sure would back any new SNP leader in the future if they have the same belief as Wavel. I know that these two are still friends and while they may disagree on issues, they both believe in a better Seychelles. One thing I can tell everyone here is that I would be proud to have either one as president of seychelles as they are both great leaders.
Reply to "Slick SNP Sell Out", "SNP Loser" and "SNP Apologist"-
On my status when I crossed the floor and no Bye Election took place. Reason being, I did not join SPPF silly. I was in my seat without a party. The DP had terminated my place on the Executive Committee in 1994 ,and I was removed as a party member the following week in 1994. So for years I sat in the National Assembly, without belonging to a Party. It is DP that pushed threw me out and the problem is I was directly elected, so I kept my seat.
You ask if I will allow non members to become leaders of my party?
If my party had a leadership crisis and a dog down the street could solve the crisis, and deliver what I failed to deliver, I would all an executive committee meeting, advise the Committee that there is a dog down the street, who can lead us to victory, I motion that we accept to be led by the dog and all us fat cats sit back and let the dog do his work,since we are now failing the people for 22 years.
You say I make things up as I go. Well do we live in a static world? No.
The genious of education, and intelligence is to be able to play according to whatever circumstance or cards we are dealt. Our reality is alive, and ever changing.
We must change with it to excel in what we do. When we remain static we fail, like you bunch over there at SNP, who say Marc Hoareau is not good enough leadership material for you bunch of self righteous fat cats that are looking like a bunch of flower pots.
What I do not make up is TRUTH. That is my guiding light and I steer my course along it's beam.
One SNP Loser says Marc Hoareau is like a vulture blah, blah, blah.
I don't think anyone is a vulture in Seychelles political context personally, except for Michel and Ramkalawan who both deliver dead meat, to us and both feed off our bad fate under their leadership.
SNP Apologist- I can see you struggling to grasp at straws to protect your meal ticket. But you do this in vain.
See you on Super Sell Out Tuesday, then by then not even Marc Hoareau would likey want to touch SNP.
What you all do not understand, is that is is your type of thinking and perverted One Party State logic that gave false hopes to the people of Seychelles, and delivered failure to us all.
Any new idea, other then yours at this time, is VIABLE!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
SNP Ideologist-
Never have I heard such BS as what you just said.
Pardon my lack of manners, but we are getting on in age, and tend to lose patience with silly comments.
It will soon be 22 years of SNP failied opposition.
That means, your ideology whatever it is, however it changes as it has from time to time, has failed.
This means you need something better, and something new.
SNP has to go find that, and find it fast.
Good Luck!
SNP Crackpot-
I read the article. It says what it says. All you SNP fake profiles on this blog, have said what you said.
If I was SNP today, I would be burying my head in the sands of Beau Vallon.
But I am not, and I am proud I made the call to BOYCOTT this sham election from the word "go".
Your leader Boycotted from the word "finish" then pulled it off, in a sell out deal.
See you on Super Sell Out Tuesday!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Gill, you are being stubborn. If you had left DP, there should have been a bye-election. But you had to inform the speaker in writing that you had left DP. There was no bye-election because you chose not to write to the speaker and you stayed in the national assembly.
It was your human right to cross the floor, although it looks bad on a politician's record. You had a constitutional obligation to inform the speaker and trigger a bye- election.
In other words, you do not practice what you preach. You say one thing, but your record says something else. That is why I come back to this point.
I reply to "Subborn SNP" -
You sound like a nice fellow.
I see you try to make a point concerning my 1993-1998 status in the National Assembly.
I applaud you for your effort, you and others in SNP, have been trying to make the same point for years since I called for a united opposition and Ramkalawan failed to meet his word and I of course, do not take well to word breakers.
But at the end of the day, facts, reality, Truth, must dictate our reason and our conclusions in any matter.
I restate the facts:
In 1994 DP had a Convention at Mahe Beach. I had 75 people outside, and about 100 inside. Armed PMU soldiers prevented me from entering the Convention.
These soldiers, were sent by Rene in conspiracy with Mancham.
Question: How can PMU be at a DP Convention if the leadership did not call them there and Rene did not order it?
One week after the Convention, my party announced the new Executive Committee and I was not on it.
One week after that, I was terminated as a memeber of the DP by Press Release in the Nation. It has been the case ever since.
So Subborn SNP- if I was not a member of the DP in 1994,the question became, "can I keep my seat in the National Assembly".
Answer: Yes, because I did not resign in writing from my seat, I was an elected member with a mandate to use my best judgment under all circumstance.
Did I ever join SPPF?
No. I went about my business that today feeds me to strengthen me to remove SPPF PL.
Do you have a problem with that?
I suppose you want me to go support SPPF PL, like most of the SNP Executive Committee and James Mancham has done? This will help SNP remove the SPPF PL?
Why don't you use your energy to empower the opposition, instead of threading yarns that only tie up the opposition?
See what I mean?
Any new idea, will be a plus from this gang!!!!
See you at "Super Sell Out Tuesday!"
I only wonder what kind of rope SPPFPL will hang you with, coconut fibre, or polythene fibers.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
I was listening to what Mancienne had to say. I did not notice whether he was disheveled or not. The well coiffed Gill should perhaps pay more attention to what SNP leaders say, so that he does not get his knickers in a twist here on STAR.
There are no knickers in a twist here .
Mancienne's files were disheveled, not what he said.
We all know exactly what Mancienne said: "SNP will ease the BOYCOTT and go back to the National Assembly to debate a new motion tabled by Bernard Georges for reform of electoral laws" (that relates to what Michel said two days earlier). So we really do not need a motion, do we?
His hair of course, could do with a little order aswell, prior to being filmed.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
When you stopped being a member of DP, you should have informed the speaker of that fact in writing. Under the constitution, your seat would have become vacant as you were elected on a DP ticket.
As I said earlier, the constitution does not allow an MNA elected on a party ticket to keep his seat if he leaves the party. This is to stop floor crossing which is not constitutional.
You kept your seat on a technicality, because you simply failed to inform the speaker in writing that you had left DP.
Your presence in the national assembly between 1994 and 1998 was unconstitutional, fraudulent.
Reply to Subborn SNP-
Check your constitution for amendments and check the dates.
An elected member cease to be a member of the National Assembly when he writes a letter to the speaker, informing him he cease to be a member of the Party.
The letter you refer to was written by DP to SPPF. But it was not written by me. Hence not valid.
Technical issue perhaps. Fraud? No not even close.
You seem to be obsessed with this seat . Remember Stubborn SNP, what I have told your fellow party leadership, when you focus on this speck you forget the plank on your eyes. SNP is becoming a party of floor crossers, for money, not to save their lives, so I would thread carefully.
Again, I appeal to your sense of patriotism, to get back to the issues that can unite the opposition.
Blaming me for your problems is not helpful to the country.
I have answered everyone of your questions. That is much more then your own leadership has the courage to do.
Ask Ramkalawan how much did Ogilvy Berlouis pay him as a Paid Informant and how many times was he paid.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Gill,
You are yet to answer this simple question. Where were you born?.
Are you worried/afraid to face your Waterloo?.
Kind regards TIKLO xxx
Tiklo, Proxy for Rene the Butcher-
Ask Rene where I was born.
He will tell you, I was born at Victoria Hospital on September 7, 1964.
We don't care where you were born TIKLO.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
How can the opposition vote for a paid informant all these years?
Have we gone mad?
Paid informant, no wonder why PL is happy with the man .
What does that make SNP?
A paid informant party?
The one who wants to know where Christopher Gill was born should go and ask Wavel and Michel etc. where they were born. Let's concentrate on the issues like Wavel breaking the boycott and going back to the National Assembly on Tuesday.
To friend of Mark Hoareau and Wavel. Jesus was also a friend of Wavel. Wavel seems to have forgotten him along the way. So Mark as a mortal should not expect to be treated differently. I know that Wavel will never accept any replacement so he is not allowing this issue to be brought up. Remind him just like he was very unsure of his position prior to the elections when he said if he lost he would leave, that he should remember full well that the voters who voted for SNP many of them did what was called tactical voting and that all these people are not the membership of the SNP.
SNP is again falling for the SPP trap and this time they will be digging their own trou will will lead to their eventual decay sooner than later.
Finally, their weakness will give credibly to Seychelles Freedom Party to rise.
"You join a political party if you believe in what it stands for."
Nuff said!!
Boycott, do not fall into the trap of da devil-man.
If you fall into the devil man trap we are in big trouble in Babylon.
Da devil comes like a beautiful and make promise of gold, then leave you in dust,no water, no shame, no dignity.
don't do it man!
Not to change the subject but apparently Mrs Michel has started divorce proceedings.
I am Parti Seselwa, I am NAP, I am SNM, I am UO, I am DP, Finally I am SNM, But Who am I, I just don't know what and who my party stands for. Yeah right, Nuff said!!!!
MOTHER INDIA SHOULD ANNEX THIS VERY SMALL PLACE IN A FEW YEARS TIME.WE HAVE THE COMMERCE AND BUILDING INDUSTRY MONOPOLISED.WE R DOING WELL ON THE GROUND.
MOTHER INDIA, FATHER UAE, BROTHER RUSSIA, SISTER CHINA, TOUSALA MEM ZAFER MEM. LOL!
Le Corsaire restaurant burnt down yesterday because the water pumps in the fire engines did not work and they could not pump water from the sea. Ironically the fire brigade was already at the place when the fire started, putting out a fire on the other side of the road and ran out of water.
Gross incompetence. The minister responsible-- JOEL MORGAN -- should resign now.
Now that the PPBs are done, Captain Adam has taken to the airwaves to tell us what PL failed to tell us during the campaign. He is softening us up for a major hike in fuel prices. These election bribes have to be paid for. There is no better time to start collecting the money than immediately after the election. PL voters have short memories and will forget it all by the next elections.
It was clear from Nathalie Michel's composure at the swearing-in ceremony that she was far from chuffed that Michel had won the election.
... Michel had bought the election. Sorry, my slip-up.
If Natalie Michel is divorcing the SHAM President, she will need the protection of the Seychelles Freedom Party during these difficult times.
We welcome her to join SFP!
Any one else that leaves SPPF PL needs to know they can count on us to open our arms to them, for Bible says we must accept victims of Evil with open arms.
SNP reads something else or they have been smoking something.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Beauty is divorcing the beast we must almost celebrate that on Praslin .As one of us we will give her the protection and moral support she needs.And since my family has long friendship with her own family i will also advise her to joint the movement from freedom.
sesel pou seselwa.
Jeanne D'Arc
Tikolor,
Where were you born?No let me put this way ,what your nationality would be much better?An individual is a national of a country by birth.It is got through the inheritance from one's parent.Therefore it is about culture,tradition,language,etc etc and etc...
And how you know the nationaility of a person,simply by checking who is parents are,where he or she where born.Thus a person born to seychellois parents in this little country call Seychelles is a Seychellois.Or may be Tikolor thinks like Michel that a seychellois is an Arab?
Jeanne D?Arc
Natalie Michel is welcome to register as a member of Seychelles Freedom Party (SFP) we don't ask questions because we know how hard it is to live under a Communist dictatorship.
We accept all that come forward for FREEDOM.
We are not like SNP that requires you sit for exams to join the party of fools!
An exam I might add that none of them can pass themselves!
La, La, La, La la!- As Jean Francois Ferrari would sing.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
I forgot to add-
Marc Hoareau cannot pass that exam aswell according to you luni tunies!
No wonder you lose every election.
You need to be stupid to be a member of SNP.
Just me!
Today of 13/06/11 has an article where Ramkalawan says he is resigning as SNP Party Leader and that the new Leader will be elected at the next Party Convention. I (despite having attended many SNP conventions in the past and voting and not being a member) will this time seek my membership card to vote for a new SNP Leader. I would encourage others to do the same. SNP is at a stage of re birth. The new leader will have a lot on his plate. Ramkalawan did a good job for some time. He has done the right thing and resigned. The time to reconstruct is NOW. I trust the new Leader will unify the opposition forces.
Vox
Gill, it shows at this stage you are desperate for members. What will happen if people who do not believe In your creed register?
Well after three defeats resignation should be natural.Who will be elected in RAM^s chair is quite a difficult question when we see how SNP members have comported themselves for decades now.will it be one that put the country's and its people interest before self or just replacing TOM by SAM to continue the same irresponsible politics that RAM has practiced for decades now?One thing is clear politics today needs a varsatile person not those with chicken visions.The mentality which consists of staying quiet until the next election come to only tell us"we are going to win this election and get rid of pp is not relevent.We would like to see a leader who is pro-active on the ground close to the people that give him their support every five years.So far SNP has not only be weak but never has something positive to offer and criticing and colluding with Pp.We would like to see a leader who not only criticise but has proposition to made in regards to what he crticised and we need to see real policies,i meann policies not manifesto.A real leader is supposed to make debate possible on important issues facing the country,without this initial step the BRAS become hypocrites.
Just hope that SNP find a real leader not a STOOGE that play the opposition image for Pp autocracy.
Jeanne DÂrc
In Nation today, another St Ange from the St Ange political dynasty trying to arse-lick the PL regime. This time it is Raymond St Ange on holiday from America.
Gill wants to set up a party but does not understand the difference between a registered party member and a supporter. No wonder he is having problems with Gappy.
About 4 years ago, St Ange wrote another crap letter to Nation on his visit to Seychelles, rubbishing SNP. Is he sober when he writes these letters while on holiday ? He should stick to rightwing politics in America, rather than trying to raise his profile in Seychelles with funny letters to the editor of Seychelles Nation who would not publish his letters unless they had political mileage for Parti Lepep.
He should try and write a letter critical of James Michel, in the same way that he is critical of Obama, and see if Seychelles Nation will publish it.
He is critical of Obama?
SFP does not dicriminate against any bonafide Seychellois.
Any Seychellois that wants to join SFP will be duly considered as
a member,
a supporter,
a silent partner,or even
a ghost supporter.
The decision is theirs.
Good on Ramkalawan resigning. It took a lot of convincing but it had to be done.
He can still play a key role in unifying the opposition, and being bigger then life, if he is big enough for it.
You SNP fellows take a lot of twisting and turning to come around the corner, but when you do, you come around the corner, like you are coming around the mountain:
Good on you all, and good luck! The real work is unity of the opposition now.
I hope you are all strong enough to BOYCOTT "Super Sell Out Tuesady"!
It is never too late!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Who will unite with you ?
This party is for all Seychellois ? Even fabrikes ?
Reply to who will unite with You-
You will see, when you do, you will run to PL for cover, like all your executive committee has done.
On Fabrikes-
Fabrikes are not bona fide citizens of Seychelles.
They have not legitimate moral right to be involved in our political affairs. We will ask them to not vote. While we will seek the right to vote for overseas bonafide Seychellois!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa
Christopher Gill
Seychelles Freedom Party will not accept fabrikes ?
Good move by Wavel. Still sadly if he had been ready to move out, he could have done it before the elections and maybe give the opposition a chance to win the elections.
He's made his contributions and we thank him for that and wish him all the very best in his life. We hope that he will continue to lend his supporter in whatever way he can.
Tell me yourself where were you born Gill.
And Gill, Wavel has broken the "boycott" because he can.
And TIKLO in fek donn lord Wavel to reconsider stepping down as Leader of the Opposition.
Would'nt put it pass them to decide on this strategy to get him to stay on. Still it's your baby, do with it whatever you wish.
Tiklo Proxy For Rene The Butcher-
Seychelles is Bnakrupt because of the likes of Rene the Butcher and Michel the autocrat who can hardly readand write.
You Tiklo are an incompetent proxy and cannot even do Rene's work effectively.
Today we lack water, hotels are closing. Next week workers will be laid off.
Total Failure is enveloping Seychelles. You are a fool Tiklo. We are happy to have you on the blog, because you do represent the best the SPPF have to offer.
You deserve the Gold medal in foolishness, but we tolerate you since you represent the SPPF PL.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Apre sa bon lageule ki i ti fer Arpent Ver, (Sa ki oule ekoute, ekout tape lo FB, zot a war kimanyer laguel Wavel i sal) prezan i pe larg labar. I ti pe kouyonne dimounn. Se son siporter ki ti kouyonn nek zok kri weh! weh! weh! Pli degoutan ki Lepep. I fer onte.....
Michel should resign for incompetence as we saw with the fire service at Corsaire. He won't go because these semi-literate PL supporters take his money and vote for him.
"They include two new hotels for which government permission to build has just been given, as Russia opened the way for the Indian Ocean Tuna company to enter the Russian market."
from the Nation today re: Russian growing ties with Seychelles.
where on FB nou kapab antan laguel wavel...
please advise which url
It is just Parti Lepep propaganda. They use FB a lot but will jail you if you do.
In the second republic writing on FB would have been a crime, just like in China.
What more revelations does Today have ? They are extracting maximum sales from this interview, having spread it over two days already. I hope Marc Hoareau made a big contribution to the election war chest.
Ramkalawan does not want to lose more elections than Albert Rene. Rene will keep the dubious distinction of losing 4 free and fair elections and then becoming a terrorist along with Michel.
Ramkalawan has fought elections in a semi- dictatorship under very difficult conditions. Too many people in Seychelles are happy to live in a dictatorship, whereas elsewhere in the world people are laying down their lives for freedom.
We allow self- confessed terrorists to claim they have become democrats, rather than punish them.
The work of emancipating the Seychellois still goes on.
Election during the Colonial days & Tax payers soceity was free & Fair????....
Put things in thier proper context.
Freedom of expression? Why is the opposition in Seychelles are like "de boyo, kat fes"
When individual in Government sue them for allegation they wrote on Regar = LP is killing free press
Now Ranka is suing Rising Sun = Good move, its not killing free press.
DE BOYO KAT FES
Sanmenm Fes Gill i grate toultan hahaha....
The opposition do not control the judges ! PL control the magistrates and the judges. That's the difference.
I am not talking about Judge you FOOL. I am talking about the state of mind of our opposition
No independent judiciary means no justice. If the judges can be corrupted, no justice. If the magistrates are Parti Lepep activists, no justice. Don't be surprised if Ramadoss wins.
Double Standards in everything what they say and do.
I they want the people to trust them...
Think again
Check the state of your mind first.
If the judiciary was FREE, we would know if people taking Regar to court had a case. The judiciary is not FREE, it operates at the whims of Parti Lepep. PL use the judiciary to shut up Regar and the opposition. Justice is far from guaranteed under PL.
Sa blogger ki dir mon lalang lo sa ki mon dir lo Wavel al get lo ban profil Lepep siporter parey gustave Deco ou a tann tep. Mon asir ki mon en siporter lopozisyon me sa tep Wavel I mank respe pou sa group dimoun ki ti la e pou nou pep.
Your main concern with the opposition is your alleged double standards.
My main concern with Parti Lepep is their gross incompetence at running the country. The latest evidence was their failure to put out the fire at Le Corsaire, despite fire fighters and water on site.
Reply to "SNP Loser"-
You really are lost.
You say the BOYCOTT of SBC is going real strong, blah blah blah.
You really do take people , all of us for fools, don't you.
Here is why:
Ramkalawan is scared to say on SBC he will resign, because they last time he said anything on SBC was: " SNP will BOYCOTT call future National Assembly sessions and will not attend the National Assembly, until all elecrtoral reforms laws are in pace".
Today what do we see: "Super Sell Out Tuesday", the "resigned " Leader is right back in the National Assembly, giving the SPPF PL the credibility they did not have when: 1. he shunned the announcement of results, 2. said he will with his party not go back to the National Assembly.
Ramkalawan looks like he is going no where.
Why? Because being No.2 makes him a very comfortable living, which has allowed him to become a Priest Millionare.
Stop wasting our time SNP.
Pathetic bunch you have become.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
You call a loser lost. You call for a boycott, but accuse Ramkalawan of being scared of SBC when he boycotts SBC. You make these things as you go along.
You stayed in the National Assembly when you had lost all constitutional right to be there. It is a bit rich to call for a boycott now.
Reply to SNP Loser-
You are lost, using the tea break in the National Assembly to blog on STAR.
Ramkalawan called for a BOYCOTT of National Assembly, not me.
He went to the National Assembly today, not me.
You are there too, not me.
You are all a BUNCH of Pathetic SELL OUTS! and you have now given credibility to a SHAM Election, and James Michel should send you roses.
Disgrace! It is a bit "rich", to use your name? Sell Out!
Now you come by the bundle, like 1"x1" timber used to hold up flowers!
Stick your 1"x 1" timber in a flower pot!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
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