Viral Dhanjee Has The Communist Beast By The Tail
After the MSR was blocked from being registered as a political party in the last election and political debate in Seychelles
Viral Dhanjee outside the Court House
First MSR and Christopher Gill denied their rights
Mr. Dhanjee’s candidacy was refused, and he was denied participation in the elections, a direct violation of his right to participate in public and political affairs of his country. This not only violates the Constitution of the Republic of Seychelles
Hire A Fighter For Freedom
To take on the communists establishment point man Mr. Hendrick Gappy the Electoral Commissioner, Mr. Dhanjee and his advisors knocked on the doors of tough, no nonsense lawyer who is very intelligent, and brews with a fighting spirit when human rights are at stake: Madam Alexia Amesbury. Madam Amesbury is earning a well deserved reputation for being a real Fighter for Freedom. Her tenacity to see victory is second to none when it comes to Human Rights.
Constitutional Court Rules In Dhanjee’s Favor
Well prior to the elections, the Constitutional Court
Court of Appeal
Madam Amesbury filed a motion to the Court of Appeals to stop the elections, until such time that Mr. Dhanjee’s candidacy was present on the ballot paper. In an erroneous ruling, Justice Macgregor applied the Balance of Convenience Test for Injunctions, to a Fundamental Human Rights issue. When Human Rights are at issue, it is never convenient to the state.
Mrs. Amesbury fighting for justice
Justice Macgregor is a former SPUP founder, and Central Committee member of the SPPF. He has been an MNA and Speaker of the National Assembly for many years, and he has been nominated -appointed by the SPPF PL SPPF PL One Party State
In a rash move, to get rid of Mr. Dhanjee’s case, it appears that the Court of Appeals is doing the politically expeditious thing: hear the case on July 12, 2011 and get rid of it to save face for sham elect president, James Michel (PL).
The Court Is Inconsequential To Human Rights Violation
Regardless of the decision of the Court of Appeals, Mr. Dhanjee’s lawyer has been burning the midnight oil for Freedom and has extensively researched the UN Fundamental Human Rights Charter obligations the Seychelles
Pull The Communist Beast Tail
After the Court of Appeals is finished, the Dhanjee case will go to Geneva
Such a ruling, will affect international funding for Seychelles Seychelles
Only in March 2011, the Seychelles was SANCTIONED by the UN Human Rights Committee in Geneva , Switzerland
Minister Jean-Paul Adam - No time for Human Rights reports, but plenty of time to party
What Is The Message?
The message is on the wall: “The Communists in Seychelles
Anyone that attempts to give credibility to Communists for self gain, promotion, or self enrichment, will similarly be exposed as well!
No good ever comes from a deal with the Devil…..
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
May God Bless All Freedom Loving Seychellois!
Christopher Gill
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1 – 200 of 264 Newer› Newest»I see no way around it.The UN will very likely sanction the govt. of Seychelles until another election is conducted with Mr. Dhanjee included to stand as a candidate...and this time everyone plays by the rules with proper observers.
Another election is conducted -- in 5 years time.
Is there anybody out there that can do us a favour by giving Krist the Gilliar an egg to suck on?.
Well, we are on the road to further SANCTIONS this will be the second one, if not amicably resolved in Seychelles through the implementation of TRUE Democracy and due respect for FREEDOM.
Viral Dhanjee Case will be one SANCTION.
MSR case will be another.
The Country Report not being filed is already in existence: SANCTIONS.
So the time to suck eggs is a call to PL to start cracking the eggs, so they can suck them as TIKLO their spear head brain would assert.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Thank you, Another great article Christopher.
Keep it up, my brother.
You're all dreaming if you believe that the UN or any international organisation gives a rat's ass about what is going on in Seychelles. Wake up guys. It's been clear for a long time now that we have to fight our own battles.
Lemonn pe koz lo nou!!!! Seychelles's name is now being dragged into human trafficking and prostitution. Bernard Shamlaye should move away from our flag and go and bury his head deep in the carbage at Providence. He painted a pathetic picture on tv tonight - as he usually does and he must realise and accept that the blame for this lies squarely with his government. Renesans Moral? Give me a break.
Rene sans moral.
You are Dreaming,
International organisations have already criticized Pp for not providing records on human rights violation which has become common place under Pp autocracy.There is more to come.
Jeanne DÂrc
There are reports that Jane Carpin has voted with Parti Lepep in the National Assembly to give them the two-thirds majority to amend the constitution.
Reports on Jane confirmed!
Yeap, I heard about the news. Like I said before, if SNP doesn't stand firm & boycott the assembly that will be their own demise. Cracks have been shown before in the party & more to come.
Niya
James Michel buying out opposition leaders agin ?
And opposition leaders show how weak they are morally and that they do not represent all those who voted for them but for themselves.IT also explains why PP has been so long on power, there is no strong oposition.
Jeanne DÂrc
PL is like a pot of honey for some people -- irresistible. Another one follows in Gill's footsteps.
Bloody unbelievable that Jane Carpin has crossed the floor to vote with the SPPF.
This is an atrocity and Wavel and SNP have now lost all credibility in this country. If Carpin was bought, that's her problem and she joins a long list of traitors of Judas status who believe money is the end to all the means.
I am not a huge fan of Christopher Gill. However, I have followed this blog religiously over the years. I am shocked at what just happened and it is a sad day for our country. But the good thing is that I now have more respect for Gill and his rants and raves. It is clearer to me now that Gill in fact has been ahead of himself and that he was right all along. Wavel is a sell-out to Party Lepep and it would not surprise me if this was a calculated move that had been planned well in advance. By not following through with their boycott, SNP has now showed its true face (or trou fes) and I am now convinced that Ramkalawan is a closet Michel lover and supporter and simply there to enjoy his fact pension.
SIMPLY SHELL SHOCKED
Tell me it's not true that Jane Carpin has ended the boycott to vote with Parti Lepep!
All, Ramkalawan has again today suffered a few slaps. Ramkalawan has moved to remove Anthony Derjaques as MNA. The Speaker has refused to accept the letter citing some giberish, presently the SNP has 2 hostile MNAs, after Jane Carpin voted along with the PL to allow for Constitutional amendments for an Electoral Commission. Carpin gave PL the 2/3 majority required to vote for the amendment.
The latest exposes the weak leadership that has become Ramkalawan at the head of the SNP and Opposition. The honourable and right thing to do for Ramkalawan is to resign as the MNA for Anse Etoile (by extension the Leader of the Opposition) and the SNP which would then call an extraordinary metting of the party to elect a new leader.
Ramkalawan has led the SNP and opposition to the pits. His position is udefendable even for STAR resident SNP apologist.
God save Seychelles from its politicians.
Vox
There was no boycott, there never was. The SNP crew was in the Nat Assembly today. Carpin voted with the SPPF/PL at the end of debates. Ramkalawan did not know what hit him once again. Surely anyone right in the mind should see that Ramkalawan cannot cling on the leadership of SNP/Opposition after this.
Derjaques had jumped ship for some time now, but Ramkalawan letter to speaker to remove Derjaques only delivered today. The Speaker is probably allowing this situation to continue to create more confusion and disaray in the SNP.
Vox
How can Wavel Ramkalawan be responsible for Jane Carpin's action ?
RAM is a coward and nobody on the streets understand why is he still at the head of SNP.But the over thing to point out here ,is the fact that no one challenge RAM within SNP.I have already told you ,RAM should be used as mascotte for the Indian Ocean game.
Jeanne D^Arc
St Ange, D Pierre, D Barra, A. Derjaques, Jane Carpin, Mme Soundy, Hardy Lucas, Grandcourt eksetera lake lera...can all these people be all wrong! What is wrong with Ramkalawan and the SNP?
Why do these people always go over to PL when they leave SNP ?
What about the 23,500 who voted for him ? Are they wrong ?
PL is like a pot of honey for some people -- irresistible. Another one follows in Gill's footsteps.
Reply to SNP Pathetic-
I am warning you again, leave Christopher Gill, MSR , SFP out of your pig food bucket you have created all by yourselves.
I warned you to Boycott and do not go back to the National Assembly.
I warned you to be weary of the paid spy and informant in your camp that sits in all your meetings.
I warned you to unite the opposition.
I warned you about the sham elections.
Now, I warn you, leave me alone, and leave MSR and SFP alone.
What will happen next to you, I already know, and it will not be pretty.
Either take meaningful steps to unite the opposition, or shut down the Seychelles National Party (SNP).
If you are familiar with computer viruses, you will know what I mean.
There is a communist fed Trojan Horse still in your mist. The worse is yet to come.
No one is safe at SNP.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Why do these people always go over to PL when they leave SNP ?
What about the 23,500 who voted for him ? Are they wrong ?
That is a very good question from SNP apologist. This way of doing things have been encouraged by Ramkalwan and top SNP Leadership for some time. Let us do some historic. At the height of our econominc troubles in 2007, Ramkalawan marched to State House for secret and private discussions, the end result was that Ramkalawan (generally the policians and Constitional Appointees) got a huge salary increases, they got a pension for life. The lesson which was learnt by David Pierre, Derjaques, Carpin and the rest of the SNP Leaders was that it was ok to discuss and take money from the SPPF/PL. This is what Ramkalawan is getting, he is reaping what he sowed in 2007.
I bet i 'kas dan fes' to admit that Christopher Gill was right all along. When the SNP were targetting Gill over cross the floor, SNP Leaders were themselves planing when they going to cross themselves. Gill crossed the floor in 1994, Ramkalawan in 2007, Pierre, Carpin, Derjaques, Gervais Henrie in 2011.
SNP Leaders sold their sould to the devil in 2007, when they voted for your huge salary increases and voted a budget of austerity for the people. Now the devil has come to collect.
I am tempted to say that it looks like a carefully orchestrated plan by the SNP Leadership to sell the 23,000 people who voted for them to the SPPF/PL. One day they are boycotting, the bext they are in the Assembly. One day Mancienne says Ramkalawan is not resigning, the very next day Ramkalawan gives an interview to Today and says he is resigning. One day they will not participate in elections, the next day they will.
Can anyone make sense of Ramkalawan/SNP anymore?
Vox
Vox
We need to be wary of people who behave like Gill.
The Carpin episode reminds us that there are people among us who are ready to betray our hopes at any moment.
The opposition was supposed to give Michel a bloodied nose today. Instead, it is having to deal with treachery.
The whole electoral reform strategy for the opposition has been derailed by someone who has been in the assembly since 2009.
Vox has wanted Ramkalawan's scalp for years. It is not surprising that he is revelling in SNP's misfortune. But times like these make you wonder if there is anyone else apart from Wavel Ramkalawan who can lead SNP.
Michel obviously knew he could count on one SNP MNA to support his constitutional amendment.
Vox-
Leave me out of this SNP Pig food.
I explained what I did when I did it.
Today, my Uncle is the biggest sell out that Ramkalawan and company seem to have been trying to follow and top up.
He is a shame to the Mancham name. If any of his brothers were alive, they would have likely shot him and been given 2 years before Dodin for involuntary manslaughter.
We need to move on.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Vox, you are enjoying today too much. You sound confused.
People are free to join and leave SNP. It is not like SPPF/PARTI LEPEP where you are free to join but not to leave.
But does the leaving have to be accompanied by treachery ?
Michel's "moral renaissance" renaissance palaver takes a battering too -- using open display of treachery and betrayal in the National Assembly to ram through constitutional changes. The country pays a heavy price.
Reply to SNP Apologist-
This is not "people" being free to join and leave SNP, this is SNP leadership throwing in the towel in the face of the leadership, who has taught them how to do it, and taught them what they can gain from it.
Their is no excuse for SNP. The years of silence has caused cancer to take root.
All that can be done at this point is stop fighting everyone, if you can, unite the opposition, before it gets worse.
Mr. Ramkalawan as a said in the past is finished.But he still can be a great hero to us all if he would take meaninful steps to unifying the opposition, no matter how hard it will be.
Failing, that, be prepared for more calamity in SNP.
When a rock starts to roll down hill, it rolls faster and faster as it goes.
SNP has to change course, or perish.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
How can you call for "unite the opposition" with so much treachery about ? And you, Gill, is the trailblazer. You are the first graduate from that university. You have a degree in treachery. You can't talk.
Guys, let us not make this about Vox ok? I told you so. My parting words will be you reap what you sow, the SNP 'traitors' are just following the leader who sold us out in 2007. SNP apologist says i wanted Ramkalawan's scalp. The simple answer is yes, i do not take too kindly of traitors. Ramkalawan was a traitor to the cause since 2007 when he choose to feather his nest and allowed the people to suffer the brunt of an economic reform. He advocated a boycott, yet he went to the National Assembly just so that he does not lose his salary. I call this treachery!
Who is the biggest Traitor of them all? WAVEL RAMKALAWAN a man blinded by greed, who sold his people into SPPF/PL slavery.
Vox
Vox has been after Ramkalawan well before 2007. What happened in 2007 is just a convenient argument for him.
Voting for pay increases may have been ill-advised, but hardly counts as "traitor" in the books of any reasonable person. The blows to the opposition are being delivered by those who find PL's money and patronage irresistible. It does not matter if SNP will not get to power in 5 or 10 years -- a principle is a principle and beliefs are sacred. It is suspicious that some can change their principles and beliefs and join Parti Lepep, simply because they disagree with SNP leadership.
Has Michel dissolved the National Assembly and called general elections ? There will be no elections if no one stands against PL.
Confirmed. National Assembly dissolved. But elections in 90 days.
Jane Carpin has gone one better than Gill. She voted with Parti Lepep on the constitutional amendment in the morning and to dissolve the assembly in the afternoon.
Chances are both Carpin and Derjacques will criticise Ramkalawan on SBC rather than give us the real reasons for their actions.
Michel needs the 90 days to set up his puppet Electoral Commission so that the observers will not question the legitimacy of these elections.
Jane Carpin makes David Pierre look like an angel.
SBC has confirmed Jane Carpin's treachery and the dissolution of the national assembly. So, it must be true.
GILL IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CROSSED THE FLOOR AND GOT FUCKALL FOR HIS TROUBLES! NOW HE IS ON A DEMENTED RAMPAGE AGAINST ALL POLITICIANS ON THE ISLAND FOR IT! LOL!
...ANOTHER THING GILL...YOU SAID THAT "YOUR UNCLE" MANCHAM IS AN AFFRONT TO THE MANCHAM NAME...ISN'T THAT LAUGHABLE COMING FROM A BATAR?...I MEAN WHAT SAY DO YOU HAVE IN THE MATTER! I'VE YET TO HEAR ANOTHER MANCHAM COMPLAIN!
KEEP ON MAKING US LAUGH TITOF...ERRR GRO TOP...HEH! HEH!
The message from Parti Lepep is clear. It is OK to betray your colleagues. It is OK to abandon your responsibilities. It is OK to benefit from betrayals. It is OK to incite betrayals.
And they want to talk to us about a moral renaissance.
SNP should not take part in these national assembly elections. Let Parti Lepep hold their elections. There will be no vote if there are only PL candidates standing. Other candidates standing will lack credibility. Any games by Parti Lepep to get "an opposition" will not give these elections credibility.
SNP is the legitimate representative of 43%+ of the electorate. It should continue to call for electoral reforms and credible, free and fair national assembly. Michel should respect the wishes of the 45% opposition in the country.
It should continue to call for electoral reforms and credible, free and fair national assembly elections.
If this was a quickie dissolution, I wonder whether it is constitutional.
Article 111
Where the National Assembly at a meeting summoned for this purpose resolves by the
affirmative votes of not less-than two-thirds of the number of members of the Assembly
that the Assembly be dissolved, the National Assembly shall stand dissolved on the day
next following the passing of the resolution.
Where the National Assembly at a meeting summoned for this purpose -- was Potter's motion on the order paper ?
One resigns during the election campaign to cause maximum damage to the campaign. The other crosses the floor on the most crucial day in the National Assembly. Both were made proportional members of the Assembly by the party, which they dd not have to accept. Yet, they will go down in history as the biggest traitors in Seychelles politics after Per Fondater himself.
I cannot help saying it, with a little bit of glee and please forgive me for enjoying this tiny tiny moment for myself.
Zot ti dir en vot pou Volcere ek Boulle i en vot pou Lepep, be zot la vie in bez zot mon bann zanmi, la inn montre zot ki vreman en vot pou SNP ki ti pou en vot pou Lepep. Wahahaha! Wahahaha!
Both Derjacques and Carpin stayed in the assembly today as members, despite letters to replace them from the Leader of the Opposition to the Speaker, by conniving with the Speaker on procedural points.
How can they hold their heads up high from now on ?
Anybody see Jane Carpin's face tonight. She looked so "araze"! What a horrible mess.
Derjacques was unhappy with being removed. But he did not cross the floor. He keeps his dignity.
But as a lawyer he should know that the Leader of the Opposition can remove proportional members, even if the procedure for doing so takes more than one day. He was wrong to notify the speaker that he will appeal to the constitutional court, as this only allowed the speaker to play games. If the speaker follows the procedures for acting on the letter from the leader of the opposition, Derjacques has no reason to complain to the constitutional court.
Parti Lepep may rue their decision to capitalise on Carpin's treachery and for Potter to move a motion to dissolve the assembly in the afternoon, as soon as they realised they had a two-thirds majority. It was unconstitutional. They may well need to rely on Michel to use his own power to dissolve the assembly, if the assembly is reinstated by the constitutional court.
It is not unusual for a member of parliament to cross the floor and betray her party. But Parti Lepep's incompetence in reading the constitution and the law generally is extraordinary for a government.
It was a quickie dissolution. The Assembly adjourned until 4.30pm while Parti Lepep discussed their plans.
Herminie says that Carpin voted with Parti Lepep on the constitutional amendment, after having listened to the debate in the morning.
But there was no debate on the motion to dissolve the assembly in the assembly. So, what grubby deals did Parti Lepep stitch up to dissolve the assembly ?
SBC says Carpin will contest her removal at the Constitutional Court. But the assembly was dissolved before he could be removed. Why is she going to the Constitutional Court ?
Potter says she has dissolved the assembly because of the boycott and that the assembly cannot function with one side only. It did function with one side during the one party state and it will function with one side only after the next elections. Wonder what she will say then ...
The incompetence in the legislature and executive is keeping the judiciary very busy.
Reply to SNP Apologist (Ferrari) and Pissed Off (Ferrari)-
The Venom you attempt to spread through your poisoned mouth does nothing to me or my state of mind.
It is laughable.
But careful, I warned you, leave me out of you pig food BAKKE.
There is more to come.
Only Mr. Ramkalawan can save you now. He can do that by taking meaningful steps to unite the opposition.
That might mean retiring the socialist coup players like Ferrari, you just spit venom every day, and by 5.00pm, feel like they have done a great job.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Join Seychelles Freedom Party today. I looked at the members list, and would you believe, that 90% of the signatures are ex SNP.
I wonder why?
Christopher Gill
Derjaques openly challenged the authority of Ramkalawan.Last week he was touted as a consul for SNP.He is close to PL and deals with them regularly. There is nothing SNP left in him.
Carpin has delivered a poison pill to SNP . Anyone who thinks she is still SNP has lost their marbles.
Both should be terminated as members. Anyone else that has done cozy deals with PL should be terminated.
That will not leave much left in SNP except maybe the guy that washes their cars for Sr. 10.00 each day.
It is sad, but remember, the word, arrogance will be struck and it will be destroyed, by the hands that built it up.
The Venom you attempt to spread through your poisoned mouth does nothing to me or my state of mind. Gill writes.
Gill, are you sure about that ? You sound delusional.
Both Derjacques and Carpin stayed in the assembly today as members, despite letters to replace them from the Leader of the Opposition to the Speaker, by conniving with the Speaker on procedural points.
How can they hold their heads up high from now on ?
I am under the impression that some of gone completely amnaesic. It is Wavel Ramkalawan who conspired with the Speaker Herminie and the PL Judges in 2007 to deprive Frank Elizabeth of his MNA seat. Then i remember SNP apologists and Wavel cheerleaders touting the actions of the Speaker and the later judgement of the Court as ground breaking, if i am not mistaken some described it as akin to Lord Dennings pronouncements. Little did Wavel/SNP realise that lakord ki anmarz bef nwanr i osi anmar bef rouz.
Of the 15 SNP Ex Co Members 1/3 have resigned or been sacked. Any self respecting Leader would have tendered his resignation but not Mr Ramkalawan, he will sooner destroy the SNP than give it an opportunity to rise from the ashes.
Pa kouyon Sesel.
The lattest floor-crossing proves how weak,disorganized and fragmented SNP is.With a weak and stubborn leader,confuse like an animal in a cage,there was expectation that SNp greedy MPS without the moral capacity to resist temptation would crossed the floor. The two spin doctors acted without consulting with the depressed RAm and at the same time their act is a stab in the back of all thosr who voted and elected them in office.This is a disgrace.the two buffons must be discredited .As to RAm he should retire and disband his faked party which has done nothing for the country and people than legitimize Pp dictatorship.
Jeanne D'Arc
Re Carpin and Derjacques, Ramkalawan has done exactly what he did in the case of Elizabeth -- write to the speaker about the decision to replace proportionally elected members. That is what the SNP leader is required to do. It is Herminie who is acting differently this time because of the court decision in the Elizabeth case.
The constitution was badly written and there are gaps in it. Proportional members CAN be replaced by their party but the process is long-winded if they decide to challenge their replacement. Herminie now knows that.
The constitution does not give the leader of the opposition the right to fire a proportional MNA. There is no explicit power for that. The power lies with the political party represented in the national assembly by the leader of the opposition.
What to do if a proportional member does not want to be replaced ?
The constitution says that proportional members RESIGN from the assembly if they are no longer members of their political party. Therefore, if they do not want to be replaced, the party needs to EXPEL them first to trigger their resignation as MNA. The party
The party then informs the speaker that the proportional member is no longer a member of the party and no longer its proportional member. The speaker will issue the certificate to the proportional member who can challenge the decision in the constitutional court. While the court decides, the proportional member remains in the national assembly. If the court decides in favour of the speaker, the party is then asked to fill the vacant seat in the assembly.
The party will also need to make sure its procedures for expelling members are clearly written down and robust, as the proportional member can use that to challenge their removal in the national assembly. Ideally, it should give the party leader the right to summarily expel someone who refuses to leave the assembly, so that they can be replaced quickly, given the gravity of their offence and the urgency of the situation.
There are 23,000 people out there looking for leadership to remove PL. PL are clearly frightened of this. Carpin let every single one of them down when she raised her hand to vote with PL twice in one day on the two most important motions ever in the national assembly, while sitting with her SNP colleagues. That must rank right up there with Judas going over to Jesus to betray him with a kiss. It was shocking. We will recover from that blow and we are not going over to PL. They better know that.
Derjacques's case is different, as he did not vote against the party. You expect these rivalries and differences in any political party, especially in an opposition party that is undergoing a leadership change and people jockeying for positions. It's politics. It shows they are passionate. He has also refused to speak to SBC which counts a lot.
Gill has been joined by Carpin in his hall of fame.
"We will recover from that blow and we are not going over to PL. They better know that."
Please elaborate what you mean by 'we'? Maybe the ordianry man, but the SNP Leadership i.e members of the National Assembly and Executive Commitee are not trustworthy.
Who is the next one to sell his soul to the devil? Bernard Georges accused on nemerous occasions of misappropriating client money? Gervais Henrie? Colin Dyer? Brian Julie? JF Ferrari (he sold us once to Albert Rene lest we forget), Mrs Eichler who is known to have collaborated with the SPPF to enslave the people in the one party state and why not Wavel Ramkalawan? Did he not deal with Siva (Isn't Siva one of the PL 'bailleurs de fonds').
Seriously can anyone in the SNP Leadership be trusted anymore?
"Derjacques's case is different, as he did not vote against the party"
Splitting hairs are we?
Derjaques has notified the Speaker of the Nat Assembly that he is going to challenge his removal. There was no need for him to vote against the SNP, Carpin vote was enough. In fact Derjaques position is probably worse, he is taking the SNP as political party and its leader to court (as is Carpin).
The honourable thing for Derjaques to do would have been to resign as MNA for the party to appoint a new member after being requested by Ramkalawan the Party Leader. But i guess the word honourable is alien to the SNP Leadership.
This goes beyond difference and rivalries, it is a case of severe internal strife, chaos and disorder.
I was referring to the 23,000. I am not talking about what people did before multi-party and the birth of SNP. Many have proved their loyalty to SNP since then. It is those who are likely to betray the 23,000 that need to be cleared out by Wavel Ramkalawan. People are free to leave politics but they are not free to betray the hopes of 23,000 people while they leave. After Carpin's Judas act in the National Assembly, SNP will need to put some new faces forward to generate confidence. Some of the old guard, with advancing years, clearly have new priorities which PL are likely to capitalise on.
Derjacques voted with SNP. He is entitled to disagree with his colleagues. But he showed party discipline and did not vote with PL. There must be quite a few donkeys on PL side who wish they could throw away their muzzle and talk about their differences with Marie Louise Potter, Herminie and Michel. They will take their burdens to their grave, unless we can remove PL and allow them to speak out.
Incidentally, MNAs do not take SNP to court. They take the speaker to court. It is the speaker who decides whether to remove an MNA or not. Read what has been written earlier today.
Post mortem -- how come SNP did not know what Carpin was up to ?
Article 81
1. A person ceases to be a member of the National Assembly and the seat occupied by
that person in the of seats Assembly shall become vacant
h. if, in the case of a proportionately elected member, the person ceases to be a member
of the political party of which that person was a member at the time of election;
Article 81
....
3. A political party of which a proportionately elected member was a member at the time
of election shall notify the Speaker in writing on the person ceasing to be a member of
the party.
4. Subject to this Article and Article 82, where a person who is a proportionately elected
member of the National Assembly ceases to be so, the political party of which the person
was a member of the time of election may, by notice in writing to the Speaker, replace
the person who has ceased to be a member by another person.
....
6. A certificate under the hand of the Speaker certifying that a person has ceased to be a
member of the National Assembly shall be conclusive evidence of this fact and of the fact
that the seat held by that person is vacant unless -
a. the person makes an application under Article 82 to the Constitutional Court within
thirty days of the date of the certificate; and
b. the Constitutional Court determine that the person is still a member of the National
Assembly and that person still occupies that seat.
7. Until the final determination of an application referred to in clause (6) (a) the person
who made the application shall continue to be a member of the National Assembly in
respect of the seat f or which the person was elected.
A proportionally elected member has the same rights as a directly elected member in the national assembly. They cannot be sacked by the party leader -- not instantly anyway. They can be asked to resign. If they refuse, it gets difficult.
As I pointed to Gill sometime ago on his floor-crossing antic which is now being much imitated, the constitution forbids MNAs changing their political parties. If they do, they have resigned. This applies to both directly and proportionally elected MNAs. (An MNA who was elected as an independent cannot then join a political party without resigning as MNA.)
A party that wants to remove an MNA who refuses to resign will have to expel him from the party first. The party must follow its procedures for expelling party members.
Are you people still in SNP serious?
I just read some of your bozo comments you took time out to quote the constitution, and explain the ins and outs, theories of issues surrounding Carpin and Derjaques.
Now I want to puke! Its my turn.
What happened in the Assembly yesterday is nothing short of a political implosion.
Is exposes great issues in SNP that have gone silent for too long.
How Derjaques voted or Carpin or court cases to be persued at this point is very Quiotic and useless.
Its over, PL has called elections.
The PL communists have used all of you. You have been used because you did not unite the opposition.
Now do the right thing and stand by the People of Seychelles to remove the PL.
You can best do this by BOYCOTTING the next National Assembly Elections .
Simple, now get on with your lives, and when you fight for the people and fight for Freedom, make sure you do not forget what the fight is about.
Now you all are fighting each other.
Pathetic. Don;t you people ever learn?
Unite the opposition or just shut down your perty, which is made up of some great seychellois, but led by a bunch of lame opportunists !
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
When an MNA goes to the Constitutional Court he is challenging the certificate given to him from the speaker that he has ceased to be an MNA, if he has not resigned.
Herminie must now know that while he can suspend an MNA willy-nilly he cannot sack them willy-nilly.
Herminie will have another problem and I doubt if Govinden can help him there.
If the political party expels an MNA who refuses to resign in order to force a resignation, how does the speaker know that the MNA has been properly expelled from his political party. Both Carpin and Derjacques are claiming they are still SNP -- incredible though it is.
Herminie will have to act on the communication from the leader of the political party and let the Constitutional Court decide if the MNA was properly expelled from the political party.
Carpin yesterday reminded us of Christopher Gill, just as Gill was trying to put his floor-crossing behind him. Both occasions were equally dramatic and will do lifelong damage to the personalities involved. It is hard to believe that Parti Lepep will welcome these turncoats with enthusiasm, after having used them mercilessly. It was a bad day for Gill, MSR and SFP too.
I really need to laugh at SNP and Jean Francois-
We all know why I crossed the floor. Today, all Seychellois know, because I told them so.
I have no regrets for what I have done, because I have lived to to fight another day. Fight I have done so valiantly.
You SNP Bloks- are pathetic. Your whole executive committee is biegn bought out by PL en Bloc.
I stand and fight for FREEDOM today. I stand and call for unity, when you people plant seeds of division endlessly.
Remember, while you haggle over the speck on my eye, you forget about the plank on both your eyes.
I did not tell you this,it was the word of GOD.
For that, it shows how lost SNP has become.
Today you can read my column in the Weekly. DP has no issue with me. Their issue is with Mancham. Because today they now know who was selling us all along.
Maybe SNP has the same problem. But joining or supporting a communist government is not the answer to FREEDOM, it is a guarantee for future enslavement.
Unite the opposition or close the SNP.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
It was a bad day for all freedom loving people and the country for those spin doctors actions legitimize the dictastor and criminal gang of PP.It is also a bad day for all those thousands of Seychellois who put their confidence in those weaked souls ,whose personal greed seems to be more impoertant than representing the people who elected them.It is a bad for democracy which has been kidnapped by gangsters and cronies like Chapin.
MSR has been winning since its existence,examples:it was MSR leadership who exposed Khalifa Delo Kaka to the world,selling out of our patrimony,dishing out of our passports,Indaind illegally transported in containers by khalifa,the 2,5 billions missing in our coffers and a whole lists of misdeeds by PP and collaborators.Without MSR Seychelles would have been already become an Isalmic state and a colony of UAE and our citizen nothing less than slave in their own country.It is the leadership on MSR that the world press call upon when they need factual information on what going on in this country.They do not call RAM,or volcere but Chris.I think the only person who knows of RAM existance is Zwimbabwean Prime minister Tsvangirai,otherwise no one has every heard of him.Quit ambarassing for someone who has been at the head of the first oppostion party for almost fitheen years,isn't it?
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Jeanne DÂrc
Unfortunately, Chris, all political demagoguery such as we saw from Jane Carpin in the National Assembly reminds us of you. As I said yesterday, you are the trailblazer.
And something else, Chris. If SNP is that bad and is imploding, why does not the opposition migrate to SFP to unite ? It is not happening because you know that though the squabbles in the leadership sadden us, they do not shake our faith in the party. We are keeping the faith.
I guess soon we will have a form of united opposition, only that the opposition will be united with the PL. Seychelles politics is becoming like a banana republic political drama. We are becoming the laughing stock of the international community. And we are lecturing others at RIO-20?
It looks like SPPF's use of the old "divide & rule" - knowingly or not - has backfired.
The way i see it, there is no more SNP. The ones left should unite with MSR/SFP. If MSR/SFP has been registered as a Political Party already - if not what's the hold up - then SPPF should be very afraid. They are probably very afraid now. I have not read fully MSR/SFP's manifesto and i do not always agree with some of Chris' view however i believe he would be more up front in the assembly and would not allow the Government of Seychelles to blind him with bribes, bribes and more bribes.
He crossed the floor and stayed in his seat for i believe 4 months if not more, without anyone - part from him - knowing that it's not in the "constitution". Who's the fool?
Chris,
This is the time to atone for your crime. If in Seychelles today, there are so many people willing to sell their principles to the SPPF, it is because you showed them how it is done. When, as an elected MNA, you crossed the floor and joined the SPPF, you sowed the worse possible seed of corruption in our country. You glorified the act of treason and you gave dishonesty its public credentials. The Pierres and Carpins of this world are only following in your footsteps; they are bad but you are worse for having led the way.
So Chris, this is your chance to ask for forgiveness for your terrible and despicable actions, otherwise you will have to carry upon your shoulders the responsibility for all the acts of political treason of the third republic.
Be a man. Say you're sorry and history will remember you as a misguided politician not a traitor to your country.
I await your answer.
To lead the way you have to be in a position of power.
The biggest traitor of all is SPPF. To it's own people. They led the way & others followed. Once they start apologising then maybe others will follow. If others have anything to apologise for.
In the mean time all units go go go for MSR/SFP.
That's my view btw, i'm not speaking on behalf of Chris.
Jean Francois-
What Carpin did, reminds you of me because you have no love of Chirst in your heart, only greed and vengenance and self love occupies your heart.
This is Ferrari DNA which we all learn to live with over the years. Some of us have paid a great price for this Ferrari DNA.
My stepfather Peter Gill, who had 14 fishing boats and sold fish to La Reunion for 20.00 a kilo in 1981is one such person that paid a great price for Ferrari DNA when Dr. Ferrari acquired his business and ruined the fishing industry in Seychelles forcing fishermen to sell directly to SMB for under Sr. 10.00 a kilo. My stepfahter paid fishermen 14.00 a kilo.
Davidson Chang Him who died in front of you and your Father the doctor with a 9mm is another person that suffered for Ferrari DNA.
We pardon you in our hearts because we know beyond your skin, you are an ignorant. What you pass off as education is half baked and your Regar rag is our witness.
Unfortunately for SNP, they will suffer greatly, for just being associated with the Ferrari clan in more ways then you can count on your fingers. We have been conservative when dealing with you up to now. We are actually holding back information on you.
The power for us to pardon, allows us to live.
SNP though led by a priest, seems to have forgotten this basic principle of the Bible and allow the Ferrari mentality to call the day in house.
If you have no moral compass you will dish out pig food to us. Right now, you seem to be doing it by the barrels.
Your preoccupation with me is the source of your self destruction.
In the meantime, SFP cannot believe the amount of ex-SNP registering as party members.
So between your comments, and the reality of our efforts on the ground, there seems to be a big divergence.
By all means do keep it up. You are a blessing, even if you turn up to the table with pig food.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
I must admit, even for an SNP apologist, that the party is in a severe crisis following yesterday's developments in the national assembly when party discipline was severely undermined. We count on Ramkalawan to steer the party out of this particular crisis, so that it can continue to be the great party that it is and that we are justly proud to support. The popular support for the party and Ramkalawan's leadership is as solid as a rock. As Today in Seychelles put it rather politely, it was the action of a rogue MNA trying to copy Christopher Gill.
But the problems in the Parti Lepep government are even more severe, following their DISGRACEFUL actions in the national assembly yesterday afternoon. These actions will consolidate the whiffs of illegitimacy about Michel's presidency and the new national assembly.
Herminie said on SBC that he will today write to the Electoral Commissioner to ask him to organise fresh elections.
Who the hell is the Electoral Commissioner ?
Yesterday morning, Parti Lepep government set up an electoral commission with the help of a turncoat to replace the electoral commissioner.
For good measure, the last acts of the national assembly was to amend the Election Act to remove all mentions of the Electoral Commissioner.
Gappy was made toast yesterday. Who is Herminie going to write to ? A toast ?
The new Electoral Commission has not been appointed. The process may well take weeks at least, if the Constitutional Appointments Committee is to advertise for applicants as promised.
We now need to wait for the Electoral Commission to be put in place (Gappy may well be resuscitated for that role) before elections can be held.
Furthermore, the manner of the dissolution of the national assembly may well be unconstitutional if it was not on the order paper in the morning. The National Assembly can't decide to dissolve itself, just because it was raining that day and Carpin had gone bonkers. The Constitutional Commission may well re-instate the national assembly before it can then dissolve itself properly.
Potter said she was dissolving to bring order to the national assembly. Clearly the boycotts were doing their heads in. But as usual with Parti Lepep whenever they try to fix something they break it even more. Parti Lepep may well have thrown the national assembly into utter chaos because of its incompetence. Faced with having a two-thirds majority in the national assembly, Parti Lepep reverted to type. It abused the power, without thinking about the consequences.
I must apologise to Jean Francois Ferrari. Every time I write something the delusional Gill lashes out at him.
It happened to me once also. I wrote a piece about Gill selling his soul to the SPPF just for planning permission to construct a few wooden shacks on Praslin, and the guy came out raving mad at Ferrari. I now suspect that Gill is probably sexually attracted to Ferrari. He must eat, sleep and dream Ferrari all day long. I would advise Ferrari to take out some insurance ...
Reply to Shack Watcher-
Thank you for your opinions. But it does not distract from the fact that Carpin and Derjacques has dumped you.
They join the list of sell outs, which they say includes your leadership-
We are preparing a list that we will publish with pictures shortly.
You seem to have a real problem in your party, so please spare us the malaise and sort yourselves out internally.
In the meantime: BOYCOTT NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS.
This is the quickest path to removal of the communists.
Unfortunately, you SNP pathetics seem to be disappointed in my efforts to fight PL.
I wonder why?
I must say, you seem to be having trouble keeping up.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Why would Ferrari need insurance? Gill's wife was heard complaining the other day that Twistopher probably has the smallest penis on this side of the Equator. I suppose he makes up in diction for what he lacks in dick !! Hey, I like that line. I'm getting better each day !!
Ouch. Sorry Master Gill
Tiklo you are still confuse it seem with Jeanne D'arc writing and Gill writing.I work with Jeanne D'arc and i know Jeann D'acr Tiklo.
Even Gill dont know who is Jeanne D'arc,but it will take time and years Tiklo for you to know who is jeanne D'arc.
Lazio
Dick, wake up and feel around your neck.There is a rope around your neck and the more you make the wrong move you are tightening it.Get rid of thid Pp rope else it will hang you.Dick stupidity is not a crime you are free to go.
Boyccott,it is sending shiver down the spine of Pp.Keep pressing the ass of PP.
Jeanne D'Arc
"Herminie said on SBC that he will today write to the Electoral Commissioner to ask him to organise fresh elections.
Who the hell is the Electoral Commissioner ?"
Very very good point and the intervewer @ SBC did not think to ask Who is that letter going to then, because at this present moment we do not have an Electoral Commisioner?
And no-one else seems to be asking that very important question!!!!
Damn.
"Dr Herminie said the Constitution makes provision for the assembly to be dissolved in two ways. The President of the Republic has the privilege to dissolve the assembly once for any reason which he feels appropriate. If he chooses to dissolve it a second time, then he must also resign together with the National Assembly and this case a general election has to take place.
Another option is that the National Assembly can dissolve itself with a two-third majority, as was the case yesterday." The Nation.
I recon The President dissolved it unofficially of course otherwise he would have had to step down, as it states above.
And around we go!!!!!!
Quote Christopher Gill July 13th 2:26 pm
“We are actually holding back information on you.”
You are truly a scum bougla! What information are you holding on Jean Francois and his family? Come out with it you obese racist low-life and sad excuse for a human being!
Did you know that only desperate men resort to blackmail?
It this how sad and afraid you are that when confronted and cornered and can only guess who your adversary is then resort to threats of blackmail in sheer desperation!
I have no respect for blackmailers – they are criminals and will stoop to anything justify their means!
Very soon you will be exposed for what you real you racist!
Zen Fraswa i devret bez ou en kalot dan ou lagel bougdi salte!
Michel got the assembly to do the dirty work as soon as they realised Carpin had gone rogue. It seems dissolving the assembly was already being considered by PL. Michel might have had to dissolve it if his constitutional amendment had not gone through.
Why do politicians so easily betray the people they represent ? Gill can answer that. He has done it before.
When out of ideas, resort to violence of course.
Gill would not hold back any damaging information. He will splash it on his many blogs. But he is full of empty threats.
black·mail/ˈblakˌmāl/Noun
The action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding money from a person in return for not revealing compromising or injurious information.
Brigitte shut the fuck up you are but a minute little pawn in a game of chess amongst the titans!
Or threaten with more insults lol lol
sticks & stones mate sticks and stones!! ;)
That was a bit harsh re: anonymous 4:20 PM but nevertheless she asked for it! Let Christopher Gill speak for himself instead of hiding under Brigitte's skirt!
LOL LOL LOL
You guys still need to master freedom of speech.
Yo Chris! Whats up man? Where are you? Are you deciding whether to come and answer as yourself or are you still cross dressing to come and Jeanne D'arc?
You remind me of Norman Bates...
I know it's hard, SPPF didn't show you, but it's 2011 now, many links & sites can help you understand what it means.
Brigitte first teach your master freedom of speech before you lecture us on it! He is the one who threatens to blackmail others when they exercise freedom of speech on his blog!
Brigitte perhaps you should thank SPPF for what you are today...your parents entered the UK under false pretence as refugees when they were actually economic migrants!
Pls see meaning of Blackmail above.
Oh and I don't do masters, you do though...."Your excellency Mr President Michel and Your higher excellency President of the Party Mr Rene".
Bow down now bow down!!
My parent chose to go with the british on "independence day". How i'm very grateful, you just don't know!!
Bow down people bow down!!
"Brigitte perhaps you should thank SPPF for what you are today..."
Could that be a complement btw???
The you are a liar just like your master Gill... I seem to remember you tell us on here that your parent left for the UK in 1984...independence was in 1976!
That blog is still there if you care to see!
My bad, soon after then, regardless that's not the point though here is it!!!!??
Call us what you want mate, it doesn't change the fact of what is going on right now in Victoria, Seychelles' constitutional.
Does it?
I'm only trying to help you see. If you do not want to, that's your business, it'll be your children and your grandchildren and your greatgrand children who will suffer the most in the end. They will have no food, no water, no place to live, no education.
Unless you're one of the elites who by then will be far away, spending your "hard-earned" cash with no worries about your people whatsoever.
From what Bernard Georges says on SBC this evening, the motion to dissolve the national assembly was not on the order paper sent to MNAs. It is difficult to see how the dissolution was constitutional under Article 111. A few weeks ago, Herminie refused to debate an urgent SNP motion at short notice, citing assembly procedures that had to be followed.
Another cock-up by Parti Lepep, aided and abetted by turncoat Carpin. Again, as soon as someone leaves SNP for PL, they go ga-ga.
Chaos. Utter chaos. The government is incompetent. The government itself should be dissolved. They will now need corrupt judges to tell us everything is fine.
Of course, and around and around we go.
The government should be dissolved because - i bet you - Mr Michel ordered the dissolving of the assembly.
That is the second time!!!!!!
Taking the case of the unconstitutional dissolution of the national assembly to the constitutional court will be hugely embarrassing to the PL government if it loses. Will the judges dare uphold the constitution ? It should be quite a simple job for them.
Either PL is extraordinarily incompetent or it was a blatant disregard of the constitution.
If the judges reinstate the national assembly, PL can quickly dissolve it again if Carpin has the brass neck to turn up again.
Will Herminie and Govinden then resign or get sacked ? Unless it was Michel himself who ordered that the constitution be disregarded.
They could easily have constitutionally dissolved the assembly next week, by giving Carpin an armed escort to the national assembly. It would have been more shame on her, being protected by the very armed thugs that assaulted the opposition a few years ago.
Don't worry about us and our children in Seychelles Brigitte, we may not have much but they have 3 square meals a day a roof over their heads and an education and god forbid when we lose one through illness or other misfortunes we don't bury our babies in mass graves like your UK government does because they are to tight to give them a humane send off as has recently been publicized all over your UK media! We will not change our system to end up becoming like your immoral incosiderate one in the UK!
We have no beggars, no homelessness and no distitution except in Gill's Seychelles!
Be careful before you criticise a country that gives aid to Seychelles, just because our politicians have looted our money.
Mata Hari Ferrari-
I have not blackmailed anyone.
I have only been polite up to now.
The low level of debate you and your gang from mon fes y grate bring to this blog is conclusive evidence of my statement that you are all a bunch of half baked ignorants, that hide under white skin.
It is better to be enlightened and walk in the world as a half baked black man then to be an ignorant white threatening to slap people everywhere, instead of promoting sincere dialogue to resolve issues.
Hding behind fake profiles, shows you lack integrity, in a great manner.
It is another source of your destruction.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
"we may not have much but they have 3 square meals a day a roof over their heads and an education"
Yea, for now mate for now, think outside the box for once mate!!!
Good Evening Mr Gill,
Pardon my approach through this forum, unfortunately, I do not have your direct e-mail address. I am a Seselwa Rasin and have just received this e-mail below into my inbox. Having read it, I feel this is another scam to give away more of our patrimony. Please expose these scams. I can only rely on you to open the eyes of Seselwa.
'SEYCHELLES INVESTMENT FORUM AND EDEN ISLAND COCKTAIL FUNCTION
As a valued client who has either invested in or expressed an interest in investing in property at Eden Island, Seychelles, we cordially invite you to attend the Seychelles Investment Forum which will take place in Johannesburg on Wednesday 20 July. A high-powered delegation from Seychelles will be making a series of short presentations covering a variety of topics, including:
• The Seychelles economy
• Foreign investment framework
• Investment successes and opportunities in the tourism sector
• Property development and investment opportunities
• University of Seychelles
• Trade opportunities, including the fishing sector
• Financial sector and off-shore banking
The day-long forum, which begins at 09h30 at the Southern Sun Hotel, Grayston Drive in Sandton, will be followed by a traditional Creole-themed evening function, hosted by the Minister for Investment, Natural Resources and Industries, Mr Peter Sinon. At the dinner, delegates will have a relaxed environment in which to continue the networking opportunities made available via plenary sessions during the forum after each sector presentation.
The Eden Island Management Team, in conjunction with Pam Golding Properties, wish to take advantage of this opportunity to showcase the development to potential purchasers and as such hereby cordially invite you to the Eden Island Open Day on Thursday 21 July, and thereafter the Cocktail Party taking place between 17h30 – 19h00 the same day.
WHAT: EDEN ISLAND COCKTAIL PARTY
WHERE: SOUTHERN SUN, GRAYSTON DRIVE, SANDTON
WHEN: THURSDAY 21 JULY 2011 17h30 – 19h00
Please RSVP to crystal.essa@pamgolding.co.za indicating whether you would like to attend:
(1) The Eden Island Cocktail Function or
(2) The Seychelles Investment Forum
We look forward to seeing you there.
Kind regards
Richard Epstein
Projects Sales Manager - Eden Island
+27 (0) 82 882 8996
UK grave diggers recently paid for the training of Seychelles dog handlers to fight drug dealers. We are skint.
"We have no beggars, no homelessness and no distitution except in Gill's Seychelles!"
If you say it a million times more, maybe it'll come true although i dought that very much. And you call me a liar. Lying to one-self is the worst mate.
"Be careful before you criticise a country that gives aid to Seychelles, just because our politicians have looted our money."
You get me!!!! ;)
Don't bite off the hand that feeds you!!!
Brigitte feel free to come down for free dental treatment when you need them. I hear they don't do dental care on the NHS! When they throw you out of your council highrise in East London just come back home, we will welcome you with open arms and give you a seaside bugalow to live in!
Chris, your emotional outbursts today are understandable. Carpin's actions in the national assembly must have been hard on you. It must have brought it all back to you, as you are still struggling to come to terms with the betrayal of DP. A whole new generation has had a reminder of what you did in the last century. People did not like what you did then. They do not like what Carpin did yesterday.
Reply to Gill July 13th 8:27 am
Eoula Judas…err Gill yes there is venom but the only place they are coming from is your mouth! You are bent in demonising a religion and its followers to further your own political ambition while pretending to have the welfare of the Seychellois people at the forefront of your objective; I don’t remember the people of Seychelles ever electing you to racially bash Muslims and Arabs in their name!
You are Satan personified in Seychelles!
You are actually a foreign agent betraying and selling our country! A total sell-out and very soon you will be exposed for the nation to see and as is customary your foreign masters will wash their hand off you! All the lies and propaganda that is giving our country bad press is coming from you – your own admission you traitor – you Judas!
seaside bungalow ?
Must one of those found on Ile Perseverance. It is a desert by the sea-side.
What happened in the national assembly yesterday was a coup d'etat by Michel, Potter and Herminie against the national assembly.
"UK grave diggers recently paid for the training of Seychelles dog handlers to fight drug dealers. We are skint."
Read all about it!!!!!
"Brigitte feel free to come down for free dental treatment when you need them. I hear they don't do dental care on the NHS! When they throw you out of your council highrise in East London just come back home, we will welcome you with open arms and give you a seaside bugalow to live in!"
In your dreams mate!!! ;)
"seaside bungalow ?
Must one of those found on Ile Perseverance. It is a desert by the sea-side."
i didn't even think of that. & he wants to offer me, someone living abroad a seaside villa - to join the SPPF party no dought - while his true followers fight each other for a one bedroom for a family of six.
Look at me now, look at me now....
Reply to Christopher Gill July 13th 2011 6:40 pm
Quote Gill: “It is better to be enlightened and walk in the world as a half baked black man then to be an ignorant white threatening to slap people everywhere, instead of promoting sincere dialogue to resolve issues.”
There is racist connotation in your every breath!
No matter how you try to say it they will always come out with a racist undertone!
What baffles me is how can a puffed up obese fashion murderer going about with a bun bag strapped around en kanson letof donning white shoes carrying a flask and who can easily be mistaken for an illegal Pakistani that just sneaked out of Port Victoria after stowing from en bato zwanyon be so goddam racist!?
No wonder you are pissed off with smart guys like Meriton and Adam…
Don't mention Adam ! It is like bursting a dam. There is no stopping the water once it gets out.
"No wonder you are pissed off with smart guys like Meriton and Adam…"
lol lol lol
Gill is a pathetic moron and we must drum that into him on his blogs everyday until it sinks in and he ceases to be a batar Malbar melanz ek Sinwan ki kwar i the best thing since Adam....there I go again mentioning Adam - I meant the first man not our JP Adam!
No send Joan of Arc to insult me!
I guess you are all proud of yourselves tearing each other apart and to the ground,,,
Can't you see nothing good will come of it,, you are wasting valuables energy and your intelligent,, on trivial issues,, please stop belittling each other,,
works toward achieving a good life in eternity,,
be kind to one another and most of all be kind to oneself don't put yourself down by abusing others.
When your enemies are trying to commit suicide there is no reason to get in their way.
LNG
Reply to Father of underaged girls
I did not post anything.
I am not the administrator of SFP BLOG.
What was posted is a US State Department Report on prostitution in Seychelles and child sex abuse and slavery.
The pictures posted have been eye blocked.
The posting has been made to highlight the gravity of the issue.
If you would like to remove the pictures just send a message to the Admin on the blog. State your reasons and request and get on with it.
Castigating me for Nuclear weapons in the world will not address your concerns.
Principally, I never administrate any blog. I only contribute to them to open debate. Sometimes debate can get harsh, but it is a small price to pay for Freedom of Speech , especially under a communist oppressed regime.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Reply to silly Pathetics-
Ramkalawan Ferrari, Pauline, mon fes y grate, Mata Hari Ferrari, all of you, bring on the pig food.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
With the National Assembly dissolved and with a very weak opposition Seychelles is heading to a democratic one party state !It will be a very sad day when this eventually happens in some 3 months time from today.
We have been a one party state for three decades.But my concern is why Pp dissolved the Assembly with newly elected members just after an election and was it not done before the election?Pp would like a super majority in order to have a free hand to modify the constitution according to its own interests without opposition and debates which as a result inforce Pp dictatorship.We must keep tab on the situation and must be prepare to stop Pp by means of people^s revolution should Pp attempt to control the whole Assembly without any opposition .We cannot let those donkeys bullshit us anymore.
Jeanne D'Arc
From what Bernard Georges was saying last night, there are different views within the SNP Executive on the boycott -- from total boycott to no boycott. Hence, why we have been seeing a compromise of a partial boycott. He says some want "business as usual".
As Ramkalawan was not in the assembly, it can be assumed that he is in the total boycott camp. Dyer and Arissol were not there either.
I suppose we will have the same situation with the national assembly elections. A boycott will split SNP apart. Participation will reduce the opposition in the assembly to a rump. I would have thought a boycott would make more sense. No pain no gain.
I still think Ramkalawan should stay on as party leader to lead a boycott of the national assembly elections. He is the only one who can do this. I also think there will be few people who will want to be party leader without the title of leader of the opposition in the national assembly. There is a possibility that a breakaway SNP group will want to take part in the elections. They will not succeed if Ramkalawan is leading the boycott.
The new national assembly's legitimacy is already in doubt because of the way the old was dissolved. It is interesting that SBC could not get the Attorney General to contradict Bernard Georges last night. It is very unusual for SBC not to give the government an immediate right of reply. It can be assumed that Govinden did not want to come on SBC. If so, one wonders whether his legal advice was sought before dissolution, or whether Herminie and Potter flouted legal advice to dissolve the assembly. There will be strong suspicions that both the executive and legislature (i.e. Parti Lepep government) are illegitimate.
What is going on in the SNP leadership as it seeks consensus on how to fight for electoral reform may be exciting to the pundits, but what is going on within the Parti Lepep government should be very worrying for all right-minded Seychellois. This government continues to prove that it is grossly incompetent. The SNP leadership troubles pale in comparison. The incompetence of both Leader of Government Business and Speaker of the National Assembly was laid bare this week.
I wrote the piece above without mentioning Gill's betrayal of DP and I am feeling guilty.
The presidential elections were a shambles and are being contested in court.
The national assembly dissolution was a shambles and is landing the speaker ONCE AGAIN in the constitutional court.
The national assembly elections are a shambles and the electoral commission to organise the elections does not exist.
Parti Lepep government is a shambles.
Reply to July 14 8:23am
“The pictures posted have been eye blocked.
The posting has been made to highlight the gravity of the issue.”
Who do you think you are fooling by you pathetic pretext!
You are the admin. You are a one man show, you are Jeanne D’arc, Vox and numerous other pseudos all wrapped up in one pathetic obese batar Malbar/Sinwan you nincompoop so I am sending the request to you out of human decency if you have any left you lowlife!
It doesn’t matter if the pictures have been eye blocked everyone knows who it is. Seychelles is a small country!
And I do not think that the US state department would post that picture on your blog and furthermore aren’t you the Judas selling all these info to them tainting our society? How else does the State Department get their information whether accurate or not?
Oh! And by the way, ou fes i bezwen bez grate; Ou tro bez gra ki ou lanmen pa kapab ariv kot fodre lave gran kosonnyen!
To July 14, 2011 12:40 PM ki pe anraze ek fes Gill:
Komsi en ou bann famiy ki ti dan sa bann portre non? Manyer oun anraze ek sa la foutou. :-D
Payeye bous ou taba ou osi! :)
Another day of intelligent conversations. What we are best @. And we wonder why our country's soooo fcuk-ed!!
In the meantime, Mrs Mondon moves all her responsibilities as Education Minister to the students themselves. RE-Launching a failed Project - Education Reform - which acording to the Nation started loosing it's momentum in late 2008, but they are now bringing in "new dynamism & drive". She wants the student themselves to eliminate the bad influences that are affecting them. She could have started with fining the shopkeepers who keeps selling the students alcohol at lunch time if not before, but no tell the students to sort out their own problems and she - Mrs Mondon - is the one getting paid to do that.
Need i go on??
So Brigitte do you endorse what Gill has done - posting the semi nude photo of an underaged girl on his blog?
i will,
In order to blind them into thinking that what she & the gov is doing for them what no other leaders would do for their people, she talks about FUTURE LEADERS, RESPONSIBLE & EMPOWERED CITIZENS, she goes as far as telling them they are "the platform to ensure the students of your institution are fully involved in their education".
How are they suppose to do that?
It's not bad enough that they've created new management jobs in Air Seychelles (who's paying them?) but now they are creating new staff for this RE-LAUNCH of a TRIED, TESTED & FAILED Project.
I tell what they - the ministers - do put their efforts in, instead of giving them a voice (freedom of speach) & knowledge (because we all know knowledge is power) what do we give them??
Sesel i annan talan. Not dissing the show but that would be at the very bottom of a list of things to do to produce more knowledgeable students that can achieve their goal in life without being politically associated with SPPF.
We can't take the highlight from Independent School everytime they overachieve.
Well done Mrs Mondon. You're good i give you that. We use to have a saying back in school.
"god made the bees,
bees made the honey,
we do all the work,
and teachers get the money"
Damn right, only it's Ministers get the money!!
Well i don't think the pics were relevant to the article.
The thing is that iunder communist dictatorship nothing works.Ideologies that try to defy common sense usually promise a lot more than common sense promises.And that is why communists keep falling from their ideologies.Even Castro publicly stated that communism has failed.
The solution to all our problems are simple get those goons out of power.
Jeanne DÂrc
A word to FES PISSEDOFF on those naked photos.Why did those persons posted their naked photos on facebook in the first place?I guess becuase they wanted others to see that they are hexibitionists.But why is PISSEDOFF so concern of these photos?If you one of hexibitionistsoin these photos tell us we will delete it.
Jeanne D`Arc
Yet you chose to follow this sad demented loser who will stoop as low as the gutters to achieve his political objective just because Parti Lepep did not buy him, SNP rejected him, DP and Boule will not touch him with a barge pole and his only salvation is to groom Dhanjee hoping that they can start something that can be financed with Dhanjee money!
Like I said Zeanne Dark in this digital age millions of naive youngsters are ignorantly posting indecent photographs of themselves on these sites for kicks but unfortunately sickos will exploit these situations and in my view anyone who dabbles with underaged semi nude pictures can only be pedos. Theres no excuse!
Like Jeane D'arc, these pics were posted on fb, from what i here, these are well offs pips and if they had a prob with it i'm sure they'd be on the case.
Why are we making this the centre of attention here?
Catastrophy in every move the gov is making at the moment, every move they are making is turning into catastrophy. Not knowing what they are doing - incompetence, or bare faced lying to the people. Especially the ones who voted for them, and it's easier for SPPF because i'm sorry to say, don't mean to offend anybody, but the majority who did vote for SPPF are illiterate.
Now to those who wants to divert things, & start with insult this & insult that, here's the meaning of:
il·lit·er·ate/iˈlitərit/
Adjective: Unable to read or write.
Noun: A person who is unable to read or write.
Tell me i'm wrong.
Reply to Illiterate;
Brigitte you take things to literally!
Illiterate can also mean an arrogant and ignorant person who calls 55 percent of his/her fellow countrymen illiterate just because they chose a different path to hers/his! :)
Richard we dont want need cocktail party.We want our land back and you foreigners to stop your overseas banking Seselwa are getting peanuts.
The illegal dissolution of the assembly is another headache for James Michel as he struts the globe pretending to be a democratic president of a democratic country. On Tuesday he overthrew the national assembly. It was a lot easier in the one-party days when they had no such pretences.
If he calculated that SNP would not object, he did not reckon with SNP's capacity for embarrassing either the corrupt judges that always rule in favour of the government or the government itself or both.
The case before the constitutional court judges is simple. Any law student knows what the phrase "a meeting summoned for this purpose" means. Will our judges pretend they do not ?
So because i will offend i shall not speak the truth.
Knowledge is Power, more-so is the ability to decipher the information and correctly apply it.
The government is scared people are awaking. Their injustices won't be allowed to continue unopposed, if the masses really knew what was the gov are doing with their hard earned cash.
So, i will speak the truth.
They don't know because they cannot read for themselves. That is why the gov is sooooo oposed a diff radio station. The masses will gain information by listening. Which is how they - SPPF - use to do back in the day i'm sure. Illegal or maybe it was legal back then. Radio Bamboo et al.
"Richard we dont want need cocktail party.We want our land back and you foreigners to stop your overseas banking Seselwa are getting peanuts."
Why are you telling him? His got the go-ahead from your government. He's a business man i'm sure. Not an NGO. Why don't you write a letter to state house & cc The Nation so everyone can see?
You think the man in State House can read ?
Good point!!
His PA will do it.
No more "Reply to illiterate" then???
No
Didn't think so.
"Anonymous said...
Reply to Illiterate;
Brigitte you take things to literally!
Illiterate can also mean an arrogant and ignorant person who calls 55 percent of his/her fellow countrymen illiterate just because they chose a different path to hers/his! :)
July 14, 2011 4:38 PM"
The above earlier post Brigitte;
I meant you!
P.S. I never run away; It's your lord and master that scampers when it gets heated - just like the coward that he is he cannot face the truth!
By the way did he offer you a ministerial post in his dream republic? Advise him to create Repiblic Praslin...wa vinn minis koko-de-fes...lol!
James Michel is a happy man. He's succeeded where Per Fondater could never dream of succeeding.
Bought or not, Jane Carpin's treechery of her party says a lot about the situation in SNP. St Ange, Nageon, Dingwall, Pierre, Barra, Lucas, all "bought"?
Give me a break guys!
There's 23,000 more and they can't be bought.
Sorry SNP Pathetic-
I never betrayed DP. It is DP that betrayed us all when they stayed silent as Mancham was selling us all out in 1993-1998.
The sell out was so prominent to the point that Mancham conspired with Rene to use armed men in the DP convention of 1994 to prevent me from challenging him. This led to other incidents of threats of force by Rene Butcher security.
These incidents are all well documented and Ramkalawan knew about it.
I was terminated as a member of DP because in part, I endorsed Ramkalawan motions to allow him to debate, which went against party line.
I have no problem with DP today. We have reconciled and Weekly features my articles every week.
What is happening in SNP does not surprise anyone.
If a leader cannot set a good example and explain a position with conviction, and cannot unite the opposition, what do you expect to happen?
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Mata Hari Ferrari Vice Consul of Paris from Mon Fes Y Grate-
Is this the language your esteemed Father Dr. Ferrari Coup Doctor taught you?
Is this the best you can do after 55 years on the face of the earth?
Does representing State House and SNP in the same breath cause such foul language ?
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
RAM is just uncapable,he cannot even come up with an idea of how to fix the intra-conflict within his his party.What is that for a leader?Beranrd told us that there is friction within SNP on the strategy to adopt-whether totaaly boycott or partially the Assembly,right,we can assume that the some level of democratic pratics within the party whereby members can agree and disagree.But when A party is in such delimma how can one find a solution to the problem.Well by using democractic principles-for example,RAm could have hold an intern election of the issue,than the majority votes could be set as the norm and strategy to follow.But poor father is so beaten psychologically that he cannot even think of this simple and democracy solution.What for a RAM he is!
Sesel pou seselwa!
Jeanne D'Arc
Did someone say the other 23,000 cannot be bought??? you don't know what's coming!!!!
Reply to Jeanne D'Arc-
The SNP is in conflict with itself, because he has been copy and pasting and stealing ideas from STAR and MSR SFP for years now, without understanding what they are stealing.
The first issue: Are we in a Democracy, Yes or No?
If you answer yes, go back to Assembly, stand in Elections, and let SPPF PL use you in cocktail parties for another 5 years, ignore the SHAM Rigged Elections,ignore the railraoding of the Electorial Commissioner Act, ignore the disolution of the National Assembly, and the buying out of the sell outs of your party. Business as usual.
Your Gain: Your salary.
Our loss: a time out on the fight for Freedom.
Our Move: BOYCOTT ELECTIONS.
If you answer No and say you are not in a democracy, then the next step is to keep Ramkalawan to unite the opposition, because it means we need all the Freedom Fighters we can get on the front lines.
Why keep Ramkalawan, because may not have won elections, he may have made mistakes, but he can still go out a hero. The rest of you are just jockeying for position and salary and that is more of the same.
How do we know that?
Because when we see you in Public you act like a bunch of mouse and do not have the courage to talk as men.
Once you realize that you are fighting communism and we are still in a One Party state, you will stop being the wondow dressing SPPF PL needs to keep legitimacy.
When that happens, the roof will come down on the 3rd Republic.
Michel will have to step down or call new elections himself.
Or,
The 4th Republic will be negotiated.
Or civil strife will take place, until the principle of Sesel Pou Seselwa overrides the principle of Sesel Pou Arab or Sesel Pou Communists selman.
SNP needs to answer these questions to know where it is going.
You know where you came from, that is the past. Stop living in the past SNP.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
SPPF are using Indian Ocean Games donations from the private sector to fund the National Assembly elections.
Wake up people!
Another bitchfest against SNP from Gill. You betrayed DP and the people of Bel Ombre who voted for you. Like Misel, you stuck two fingers at the constitution. You remained stuck to that national assembly seat long after a decent politician would have left, as required by the constitution. You are the torchbearer -- for all traitors since then.
Reply to Christopher Gill 9:42 am:
Quote: “These incidents are all well documented and Ramkalawan knew about it.”
Thanks for the clarification. Show us those documents as proof so that we may lay this issue to rest.
Don't hold your breath. He is all talk and no trousers.
Jane Carpin's action was despicable. She acted like those people who set fire to someone's house after they have been asked to leave. She showed the worse in human nature. She is the pits. All this over money. No wonder she now feels she belongs in Parti Lepep.
Yo Christ…errr Chris…what’s the deal you silly sidewalker? Has Ramka made you an offer you cannot refuse? For a few days now it been “Mr Ramkalawan” and today you want to give him a chance to go out as a hero…?! I can see where you’ve set your sails…destination Arpen Vert as the new bunbag totting fatso…eerrr kid on the block…leaving Dhanjee and Gladstone (translated in Chinese as Chang Tave) high and dry…tasyon JFF i knock your "block" off…
Carpin and derjacques’ seats are still warm bougla... at least les zot loder pete evapore…
Beze man you just can’t escape sa malediksyon marse foutou you’re like a bitch on fire zis ou pou wayawaya from one floor to another…Ki dil goula?
Me love you looooooonnnnngggggg time…wink! ;)
Looooonii
Your weak leader is in desperate need,he has not solution,he does know how to deal with PP,he made the wrong choice when he participated in the faked election and many countless faux pas., should you not be praising Chris for doing the job and his willingness to help your confused leader RAM instead of your nonsense? You ^re really pathetic.
Jeanne DÂrc
Mata Hari Ferrari aka Pissed Off-
What I said is what I said. Unification of the Opposition is a serious objective, Mr. Ramkalawan can be a hero.
Mr. Jean Francois Ferrari career objectives is not relevant to me, and it take second place to unification of the opposition.
Mr. Ferrari is incapable of leadership because he lacks empathy.
However, that does not prevent SNP from making him the leader. By all means do that, if you believe it is in your interest and State House.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
There you go as usual with your Jekyll and Hyde games bez ou minn ou vinn zour mwan as Zeanne Dark e ou vinn en diplomasy konman Kris Gill
What makes you think you are qualified enough to advise Ramka and co. on affairs of politics when you are just like a rudderless boat on the political high seas? - Now don't you go and steal my line like you've been doing since my appearence O.K. boboy?!
Now everyone are very busy with ZWE DE ZIL after the game what will happen ELECTION ASSEMBLY. What about MONEY for the election because just after PRESIDENTIALS ELECTION the assembly had voted for an other supplementary bill.It cost to have ELECTION the PARTI LEPEP MNA'S told us when JEAN.F.FERARRI fiasco's for M.FLEURI district election.I believe that 2012 will be a very interesting year with the VAT and many more that the BUDGET will bring.Most people insist that we must work together find solution to problem think positive ect.... BUT WHAT HAPPEN WHEN PEOPLE REFUSE YOUR IDEA AND WORKING TOGETHER,DOING THINGS THEIR OWN WAY? According to some HISTRORIAN'S in 2012 their might be something happenning in the world.OH GOD HAVE MERCY ON US.
Remember, there will be NO VOTING if no one is standing against parti lepep.
The whole farce will be over on nomination day. On "ELECTION NIGHT", Gappy will declare all Parti Lepep candidates winners. They will be given 100% of the votes on the register, including dead voters whose names have not been removed.
LET THEM HAVE IT ALL.
Even if some opportunists stand, voting will take place only in those districts where are 2 or more candidates. There will be no voting in districts with just one candidate.
By the way ton Chris; (whisper!) I’m putting my arse on the line here by telling you this so don’t breathe a word to a soul…
(Whisper)…there’s talk of approaching the other opposition parties for a unification but you are being left out. Apparently you are way down there on the popularity scale! (Whisper) La pa bez al ouver ou gro boyo pou bez mwan dan kouyon…my arse wouldn’t be worth shit otherwise…
Gill does not have a registered political party.
Don't rub it in!
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