24.03.11
Press Release - MSR
The Leader of Mouvman Seselwa Rasin (MSR), Mr. Christopher Gill , has met with the Commonwealth Secretariat head of delegation His Excellency Ambassador Ayo Oke, Special Adviser, Head of Africa Section, Political Affairs Division at the Beau Vallon Berjaya Beach Hotel today, to discuss the non registration of MSR, and the blocking of MSR from participating in the upcoming elections, by Mr. Hendrick Gappy, the Registrar of Political Parties and Commissioner of Elections.
Mr. Martin Kasirye, Adviser Africa Section and Jean Paul Isaac Political Affairs Officer of MSR were also present.
The Commonwealth was surprised that MSR was not listed on its agenda to meet with political parties, fixed by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
His Excellency Ambassador Oke asked that the Commonwealth be briefed immediately, once the judgment is entered by the Supreme Court of Seychelles on March 30th, 2011 concerning MSR’s registration. This may have an impact on the credibility of the election process itself depending on the judgment of the Supreme Court.
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Leur Anbasadeur Oke ya fini ek ou mon garson, wa va kril Ayo Ayoyo ou meme.
Hope it will be handled well, fairly and justly and the current regime exposed for what it is.. an autocratic dictatorship infringing on basic human rights.
The failure of Gappy not to list MSR on OKE's agenda shows clearly that PP decision to bar MSR registration is political motivated.It is a tactic of fear and to avoid competition that could fragilize and expose its rule.Now the ball is in the court of the judge to deliver and i hope he will be unbiased in his decision -taking, in order that MSR can challenge Pp efete regime in the coming election.
Sesel pou Seselwa!
Jeanne D^Arc
Gappy has become an overnight millionaire courtesy of SPPF, James Michel and Albert Rene. They picked the right man for the job so that they could get a little "Indian" to do their dirty work for them and manipulate the election and add fake names to the voter registry.
Gappy is a coward. Always has been since Seychelles College days. He is a loser and his wife and girlfriend have both left him. Must be the SMALL DICK syndrome, similar to his boss James Michel whose dick is supposed to be 3 inches only. Not even big enough for an Arab to shag, so that's why the Arabs fuck him up the ass every chance they get.
If MOFA and the Electoral Commissioner did not give the full picture to the Commonwealth, they have damaged their reputation and credibility vis a vis the Commonwealth. They have been very stupid.
Reply to MOFA-
The Minister of MOFA ( Ministry of Foriegn Affairs)is Jean Paul Adam. He said that Gaddafi is Michel's Brother, and referred to him as "Brother Gaddafi" only 6 months ago.
One cannot get more stupid then that.
Adam, is book smart, and swim smart. He is not realpolitik smart, nor street smart, since he has been chauffer driven in the back seat, all his life, except when he went to college, paid for by the communist state.
They surely, jumped into a frying pan by not mentioning MSR case to the Commonwealth. The drviers of MOFA were all on the phone at Berjaya while we met the Commonwealth.
Maybe that will get him further up on the housing list.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
C Gill
PL is slow to learn that the world now wants proper democracy, not just periodic elections organised by dictatorships. Their slowness to wake up should not surprise any one. PL is essentially an authoritarian organisation that has modified itself to give the impression that it has abandoned its bad old ways.
Onward to socialism has been comprehensively rejected by the world. The Commonwealth used to cheer regimes like PL which formed a majority within the Commonwealth. The new Commonwealth is now working for democracy. PL must find that hard to believe, as it desperately clings on to its one-party state mentality and paraphernalia. They talk about a new mindset among the population. But what about a new political mindset for PL ? Leopards don't change their spots.
DELETE THE UNNECCESSARILLY CRUDE COMMENTS PLEASE!!
What crude comment? That Michel is a DICK? Everyone knows he is a PRICK, DICK, PENIS HEAD with no balls.
It is strange to know that Commonwealth is not aware of this particular issue. However, the important point is not only about MSR and their right to participate in up-coming election, but more in terms of the implementation of the past two election recommendations from the international observers themselves. In my view they have not engaged with the various political parties and the government to improve anything in this direction in the Seychelles. Whatever, the outcome at this time, I give little value to their visits unless they can effect certain changes prior to the coming election.
Don't hold your breath that the commonwealth vist is going to make any difference. This organisation is a joke. The Secretary General, looking for an extension to his contract, would not want to rock any boat.The vote of Seychelles is vital. Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours...
Why do u now want to participate in the elections? You have already called for a boycott and for people to take to the streets. Did you tell that to Mr Oke when you met with him
To Anonymous
The issue is not about boycotting the election whether MSR boycotted the election is irrelevant. The issue is that in a democratic structure. it is a democratic right for anybody to form a party and get it registered without any political hurdle or to resort to court case. What we are seeing in the Seychelles are dictatorial mentality which is applauded by people like you who probably has dictatorial mentality and do not believe in democratic principles. What we have in Seychelles is pseudo democracy which is being legitimized by the SNP because they are also benefiting from the pillaging the scarce resources that the country has.
It is time for the great laterally thinkers as Triklo professed to realise the running a country is not about election fixing, brainwashing people with baka, food, money and false promises. I hope that these lateral thinkers are watching what is happening in the middle east where corruptions has driven people on the edge and they are willing to go to their graves to achieved what is it legitimately theirs. This is why James Michel should stop his frenzy of selling all our pristine pieces of land to his foreign friends thinking that the Seychelles is his personal property. The people is silently watching but beware when the day of rage reach our population, all the stolen resources will return to our people and our islands whom individuals are enriching themselves not the people will be returned back to the rightful owner the Seychellois people. If James Michel his really connected to the people he should listen to the general public in Victoria passing judgement on his policy in the Seychelles for the past 4 years. He thinks that staged meetings in the district and flooding district with his spies means connecting with the people. To remind him this is not connection with the people .This is oppression and violation of the people’s freedom to express them. If the Seychellois do not wake up and reclaim our country from these greedy, corrupt and egocentric politicians who thinks that their deceitful strategies will work forever. The young generation who has gone to university of life without a decent job who are relegated to a being third class citizen will surely do it for them and the fear tactics will be squashed forever and we will experience the real liberation.
From an optimistic Seychellois.
Reply to "Why"-
First and most premordial, is the recognition of our right to "EXIST" which PL is obstructing through non - registration of MSR for over 10 months now, and the BREAKING INTO OF MSR OFFICE, and the stealing of our campaign materials worth over $10,000.00 and our files. This is further aggravated by the harassment of our activist which have included jailing, beating, and one case, attempted murder by State House Agent. This is all well documented and not denied. Hence, Truthful.
The issue of BOYCOTT is a decision of MSR in light of the obstructions to our existence and the clear case of the vote being rigged.
BOYCOTT is an active form of participation, because done meaningfully, it is passive-non violent resistence to the actions of an illegitimate aggressive, violent regime . It is not passive. To think it is, is to not understand the power of civil disobedience. Read Ghandi, I did a thesis on the political thinker, passive resistence works. Read Martin Luther King. Read Mandela. Seychelles is not an exception. To say it is, is to fall into the trap of FEAR and lose the battle for Freedom.
The case can be argued that to participate now, from what we know today, would be to actually help keep the regime in place. By participating, we give credibility to a corrupted dictatorial process that uses a window of democratic processes to keep an authoritarian regime in place.
Just this week, SNP wrote of all the shortcomings after 17 years that show democracy is not in place. I assume this is based on the articles I wrote on SHAM Elections in December.
17 years, is not 17 days of democracy , friends.
We can no longer talk one talk, then walk another. Contradictions without reasonable explanations is what has led us in cricles for almost 20 years.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
C Gill
Gill come back on April 1st and play the fool. What you going to be getting involved in an election for? You will get about 23 votes and it will be a complete embarrassment...i have no idea who the other 21 people will be but they will he about as half arsed and half witted as you with an iq seriously below your scale reading. I dont know why you and Oyaba are so determined to get involved..your just going to look bloody stupid. Go to the shop and buy yourself some roasted cashews and think about what you and oyaba are doing my friend.
Reply to "Cashew Nuts"-
Unfortunately, for you Gappy and Govinden have made a complete mess of a simple situation out sensationalizing the beliefs of a group of people.They panicked because they could not think out of the box. Hence why they functioned under Jack in Box orders, who was panicking aswell.As we were turned down a 3rd, time, our offices were also broken into at the same time.
They have ignored the fact that the UN Charter of Funademtal Human Rights which Seychelles is a signatory to protects the MSR right to participate in political affairs of the country and to hold any poltical beliefs if chooses to hold.
Now Nuts, when you take that, and add this little detail to 17 years of democracy SHAM, toss in an upcoming election, wherein the Voters List is rigged, Gappy and Govinden have destroyed the premise for democracy PL has been counting on for 17 years.
The only issue now, is whether the oppposition party SNP and Ramkalawan will expose the SHAM or will they play along.
I tend to believe, they will play along as usual.But I can be wrong.
Either, way, it will be exposed and MSR will exist, yes, beyond your dreams of 2 votes. We do not need PL to tell we exist, to exist.
ANC did not need Apartheid South Africa to tell it, it exist, for it to exist. Neither did Martin Luther King need racist White America's blessings to exist. He existed beyond their blessings, and beyond his life, he lived to see Obama become President, and perhaps see him unseated aswell.
The TRUTH is, we are not worth 2 votes, that is why you are worried COLLABORATOR.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
C GILL
you are funny gill
GAPPY
Christopher,you poor miserable boy. When will you decide to come down from cloud cuckoo land and smell the coffee? Do you seriously believe that everything that SNP has done or been saying over all these years are beacuse you had allegedly said the same things last month? Get real boy! Since you're the only person in this blessed land of ours who can defend the interests of Seychellois (RASIN OR NOT), why don't you just go ahead and present yourself as an independent candidate? Are Michel,Gappy, Ramkalawan, Mancham, Volcere, Tom, Dick, Harry, Marie-Therese, Francois also stopping you????
SNP playing the forgetful let me sing a song of six pence maybe they will remember " Sa ki anler i kapab desann sa ki anba i kapab monte anou ralyer deryer....... pou fer sanzman dan nou pei".
A blast from the past and a drink without a splash!
SNP leadership has expired and wants to expire the rest of his team with him. Natcof cannot do a thing on this because PP requires them to keep the leadership produt on shelf.
MSR spotted the date prior to reasoning with the dealership and contested the credibility and expiry. Now not only does the product dealership attacks to keep salesbut the shelfs where they are posted by conspirator to the dealership maintains ground.
The effect of ingestion of such product is poisoning and short lifespan.
Think well before investing in such deals.
Reply to "Boy" Proxy for SNP-
The writing is on the wall. You are expired, and hence weak.
You are at the point wherein you send only contradictory signals to the population, out of panic.
The points highlighted in a Two part article in Decemember is the basis to boycott elections.
To participate in an uncredible process, will only give credibility to a an authoritarian regime.
An opposition party cannot say democractic processes are not in place one second, then say they believe in the Ballot Box the next second, and say the Voters List is credible, and still remain credible, "Boy".
Do you see how that logic works?
Try another one.
An election cannot be seen or appear in process, to be Free and Fair, if not all parties and candidates have the opportunity to field their candidates and participate in the process? Sound familair Boy Collaborator?
Now help Guppy deny MSR registration, continue to give legitimacy to a process that cannot be legitimate.
On Commonwealth, we do not hang our hat. Their credibilty is already in the balance. We look forward to concrete action on their part.
Right now, Seychelles, is about to undress its "Democracy", the way I see it. Shame on you all who have conspired to fake democracy in Seychelles.
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
C Gill
Christopher not to dither with your seemingly deluded sense of reality or anything but as far as i can see you have been smoking some very strong herbs if you think you would receive more than 22 votes you are frankly mad. These are not scare tactics deployed for you to give your pathetic arguments any resonance, it is simply the truth. Putting MSR in the elections would turn the already controversial elections into a complete farce. What is that you think you will achieve by critcizing everyone and everything? Have you not EVER done wrong...why don't you come on here and write everyone atleast ten things that you have not done correctly if you wish to warrant any respect. It is alarming how you and jp isaac who once told me he was a fighter jet pilot, and proceeded to bullshit everyone around the table think you can get anywehre in this country. WAS THIS NOT WRONG? Can you imagine the future leader of this country spending his entire day writing nonsense on a website that has about seven contributors posting under different names? Is the number two going to be made head of defence or a colonel...because as far as I know he is the only fighter jet pilot i know of in Seychelles. PS I am not totally convinced that your property was burnt by Plep or SNP or DP...may be infact you did the dirty yourself...it's not beyond you old timer.
Elson Zanimou
what da fak is going on....two assholes writing mor bullshit...me i am freedom fighter me..in sechelles the main opposition is a priest or gill and his comrade pilot...how you expect to make a change...
MSR is a parti kankan pa in parti politik....Marston mem y anan plis siporter ladig....Gill you are a shame for Seychelles Give us a break man GET LOST!
E ou la C. Gull,
Please cut out the crapolla and tell us where were you born and then you may have some respect.
Please answer the question before I address you as C. Bull.
To Elson Zanimou
I must admit your fake name reflect your state of mind. Writing non-sensical arguments on this blog.If i was you i would not bother to waste my time on a site whose bloggers are writing rubbish. So it could be concluded that this site has substance because you are continual reading and blogging on it. Now if a candidate gets two votes is it not good business for SPPF so that they can get the deposit. Let me remind you that what are required to exist as a party are a manifesto and a certain number of supporters of a party. Two votes are should not be an issue for SPPF and SNP. Please let the Seychellois people decide their fate. Gill is right to say that SNP has indeed legitimized a fake democracy because they have continual participated in all previous elections where the outcome had already been determined by Gappy and SPPF. SNP knows that SPPF had never won any elections free and fair. But my big question is why they have always participated in all the fake electoral processes. What have they gained from it all? There must be some sort of benefits in participating in faked, rigged and bogus electoral processes. If SNP is blind, I would take the opportunity to tell them that they are going into an election which have all the same mechanisms in place as all the previous elections. Do not be stubborn SNP nothing has changed. This is why James Michel is doing as he pleases in the Seychelles because he knows that under the present situation he is going to win the election and this is why his Arabs friends are treating our Seychellois like dirt and flooding our beautiful islands with their Eastern European prostitutes. I totally agree that Gill is not saying anything which is not common knowledge to SNP. My question is what they have done about it. Why they have not made these issues as their priority for the past seventeen years. SNP should also realize that if they continue like that their 44% may end up being -44% and they will become an obsolete party as DP has learnt in a very painful way. A quote for SNP from Mrs Clinton excerpt from the autobiography of her husband Bill. The road to insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome. Do not go down the road of insanity build by James Michel SNP because the Seychellois deserved better and expecting better from you as an opposition.
Gill pren quote Mrs clinton bour dan ou TF svp. Hilary napa leson pou donn lemon dir li get dan son prop zardin ya war ' the road to insanity' ki ve dir AFGANISTAN IRAK ABU GRAIB GUANTANAMO EKSETERA LAKELERA.
Concerned Citizen is not my post Tiklo Proxy For Rene The Butcher and JF. Ferrari.
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
C Gill
Everyone is right i am a Moron!
But Sesel Pou Seselwa anyway!
C GILL
It appears, Ferrari or Tiklo, now posts using my name "C. Gill".
Readers should proceed with caution.
The company being kept gets stranger and stranger.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
Christopher Gill
MSR aka sing a song if sixpence. Seeing you love nursery rhymes. How about comparing you to the rat that followed the pied piper of Hamelin (aka chrissy gill )
I love Seychelles !
James Michel has said, we must now embark on smart thinking to reach EXPO 2020!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Gill, so log in using an ID so we know who's who. Pat X did that a while back as morons started to copy his name. Zot kouyon ti drese.
Can Jp not come forward and comment on why he told everyone HE WAS A FIGHTER JET PILOT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Okay I admit it.I was born near a port in Guam. This is what I was told. Under the banana tree.
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
KONPER SOUNGOULA Y DIR LEWA TAKAMAKA
' Degaze mon boy enkor demwa pou eleksyon e dapre mwan ou pa pou reisi diviz lopozisyon.....Aprezan ki zot araze! Mazin byen tou sa ki monn promet ou.......( later;;;larzen kantite larzen) sankwa ou pou bizwin al tremp kazye parey dan lepase..Zizka ozordi ounn fel tou nou plan ounn fer in ta fot AKOZ OU TI BRIL OU STOR ? selman ou araze largen Si ou femm ti komestib ou ti pou venn li fodre krwar! La mon dir ou si ou fel safwa ou riske retourn gwam kot ou frer leopar gozye....e avan mon les u mazin byen sa ki mon pe dir u " Leopar pa zanmen sanz son tas'.
A Byento groboyo
Per Soungoula
Yes i was born under a banana tree in Guam coz i'm a zako.
Sesel pou Seselwa pa pou Zako.
C Gill
Can Jp not come forward and comment on why he told everyone HE WAS A FIGHTER JET PILOT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
MSR NATIONAL ANTHEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYzZPsK78Gg
SESEL POU SESELWA!
C GILL
I know now who is the fake profile above;
It is you PATX you traitor. D'ont worry when the time comes i will expose your deals to the whole world and why you left MSR!
Sesel pou Seselwa!
Christopher. Gill
Gill is it just you left? what happened to your pilot sidekick?
i'm a pooor lonesome cowboy..... i'm a long long way from home ( GUAM)
C. Gill
Tikolor and Co,
you are cowards ,you have been bankrutped of ideas that now you have to use others names.Stop faking idiots.
Jeanne DArc
That settles it. MSR is officialy a one person brigade....the fighter jet pilot has flown somewhere else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A piece of advise to MSR:
Don't argue with idiots(like Tikolor & his compamy of equal men and women). They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
I dare however say that the likes of the above are not representative for the PL as the PL has long bypassed their ways and habits, but these individuals do however live in the past and both live and act accordingly. Had there been a brutal dictatorship today these would form our Tonton Macoute. The only use they are to the PL is their loyal support on election day, else the party would have nothing to do with them.
As to Patrick X, well, let's say he is around watching all the stupidity going on, but has raised himself over the low level that you lot have brought upon MSR and everything else you touch.
Christopher, ignore those good for nothing idiots. I have done so by raising myself above them, far above them. The way to make your voice heard is in such a way that they do not even understand that you're crushing them. As my granmoun used to say: 'Mwa anmar ou, met ou dan gouni e ler ou wa pe noye par fes wa konnen kin arriv ou'.
PaTeX
SNPL Collaborators have stooped so low as to use my name, and falsify comments, alluding that I have made them.
When a party is BANKRUPTED, they will go to any lengths to discredit TRUTH, and keep Accountability subservient to their evil cause of self enrichment.
Shameful effort.
Shameful effort.
Shameful effort.
These are actS of cowards.Tikolor and Co, have been bankrupted of ideas so they use others names to fake.Stop acting faking idiots!
Jeanne D`Ârc
Patex is back? No this is not Patex tut tut tut but Chrissy baby cause Tiklor has exposed his lonesome cowboy attempt to make people believe he has followers....hahaha Zandark is fake too!
Konper Soungoula pe riye enba pye Takamaka
AKOZ OU TI BRIL OU STORE CHRISSY AKA GOZYE???
POU OU DEMANN LARZEN LASIRENS....? OU SITAN DAN KOUYON TALER NWA WAR OU PE TREMP KAZYE DAN BRISAN ANS TAKAMAKA!
Sougoula
You a real soungoulaTtikolor.
Jeanne DArc
join ralph and make some progress...then you have 3 vot
Basil Onezime
Reply to Jeanne D'Arc, Concerned Citizen PateX and others-
I never thought that I would get such the reactions I am from a blog site that focuses on the TRUTH and Accountability.
Lately myself and MSR Activist have been subjected to all sorts of attacks from all sides. The patterns give you a good picture of our realities.
PL has broken into MSR office, stolen documents, campaign materials; they have bugged our office, cars, chased activist, one attempted murder, one detention and beating while in custody. We have an unsolved Arson pending.
PL has avoided us on Facebook and post comments on STAR. As Patex said, they are mostly, perverts like TIKLO.
SNP has used posted comments here. I have learnt that some of the most vile comments are posted by some MNA's including Ferrari himself.
The use of my name is a show of pure cowardice from SNPL.
On facebook, SNP has used a parade of fake profiles to attack me and MSR. This includes: 1. a gorilla named Muamar Murbarak that allegedly is a personal assistant to Ramkalawan, 2. two local beer bottles: "AsseychelloisAsweare" and "Seybrew", Beer Bottle,3. 1 foreign beer bottle called "Beck" and a host of other fake profiles, 4. one green frog named "GREN -Wi" and 5. a cow named "John Bull" who we believe to be JF Ferrari fronting as as a bull.
I am both amazed, and disappointed with the type of politics in the opposition camp.It is truly sad, shameful and disgraceful.
I am seriously considering withholding further articles to STAR.
I leave this matter open for comments for 7 days before we decide how to proceed.
All your views are welcome.
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Gozye so you admit you are a lonesome cowboy Poooor little chrissy we pissed him off now he thinks he wil punish us by stopping his bull shitting PISS OFF KOUYON and dont come back.
C. Gull,
When are you going to stop your poppy-cock and bubbles in like and tell us "where were you born?."
WICK DICH TIKLO you are just a piece of shit for us you and co have nothing to offer Seselwa just lies.
AND YOU WERE YOU WEAR BORN.
SNP&PP AR BAN ZAKO PE ROD BANAN.But soon there will be no more banana to eat.You zako Tokolor.
Christopher please do not withhold articles to MSR. There are many people who follow this blog regularly for un-biased info of what is happening in our paradise.
Witholding such articles will allow them to achieve what they have set out to do,i.e. to silence anyone who opposes them.
Don't let the few remaining illiterate in PL dictate to the educated mass what we can or cannot write. I beg you to please re-consider your decision. Let's have faith and learn from events happening in the Middle East and Africa.
Christopher it is YOUR BLOG.
Can't your block the nasty and immature comments and reveal their real identity?
what kind of people are hoping to run our country, if the Opposition wins..talking like that.. how disgusting and shameful..and JF Ferrari you have not changed much have you? considering your so called granblanc upbringing? so much for high society..
Yes Chis! Do not allow vulgar immature irresponsible comments on this blog. Those who are using insults on this blog should be blocked because their comments are not worthy to be read.You really have guts to allow these people to slander you and insult you on your blog. Please do not allow visitors to insult you in your own home. Jean-Francois can use his inactive SNP web site to make his nasty, vile and baseless comments which reminded us on this blog on Albert Rene on his 5th june anniversary of his cout-d'eta which he used to insult all his opponent. Jean-Francois and Albert Rene are one of the same species.
A concerned Seychellois
There is always a way and mechanism to deal with such immature behaviors.I am sure C. Gill will find a smart way to eliminate such attacks. It is about changing the strategy. One of the ways is to simply publish without allowing comments from known credible certified sources. In this way people would be responsible and accountable for the comments. Another option is to simply allow comments such as like or dislike. That would solve the problem for good and you shall prevail and they would certainly be defeated in their own game.
The most violent element in society is ignorance
Intimidation,repression etc have long been a crucible of political tactics by the regime.Pp would continue acting so to keep a grip on power for those fake creatures canot and would not survive in a democratic society.If today you and MSR supporters are facing those kinds of criminal tactics there is a reason behind them namely that Pp feels more and more expose and vulnerable to changing condision .,They concider MSR as a danger to its communist regime for they think our country belong to them and they only have a right to decide on the country's future and this is a reason why they keep faking elections and impeding MSr registration as a ppolitical party.I firmly believe that STAR must continue doning what it has been doing so far namely inform the people and give them a platform to express themselves which is after all a ligitimate right we have.We must refuse and be strong against such intimidation tactics for giving up the fight for a good cause shared by thousands of Seychellois would be giving up the fight in the eyes of a hanful of criminals would be a way to get an excuse to lose and that would be a success to those communist thugs who have been repressing,abusing our institutions for their own benefits for the last thirty-fopur years.STAR needs to continue to post articles and expose Pp communists ,we can loss a fight and run away and fight another day,losing a fight is not a defeat it is a means to reorganize to come back stronger than ever for at the end of the day it is the war we aim to win.I am sure PP is feeling a big relief and probably ready celebrating it, should you stop posting becuase for them it will means their most potential opponent MSR that causes a risk to their grip on power is no longer a danger which pphas for so long fear. We just cannot allow that to happen.I understand the situation you in, but i think we should for example be poractive in informing interantional bodies like International Human right orgaization and others of those issues and thus give you,us extra protection if Pp went crazy as Gadhafi in Lybia.We cannot allow ourselves to be victimize by a handful of crooks,it is a natural virtue to human- being to resist when they are victimize.We cannot deceive our people and supporters as SNP,PP have been doing for so long,many people believe in MSR , it is our duty and right to fight for what we believe in,we cannot let some communists crooks and their collaborators to continue to walk on our freedom.
STAR must continue it work of imforming the people of this country on the real state of our country and giving the over side of the story.I hope you will reconcider your position Chris of withdrawing ,thousands of Seychellois believe and share you views it is worth fighting for.
Courage and determination with make us prevail.
Sesel pou Seselwa!
Jeanne D'Arc
Clap clap clap another fake profile of Chrissy Zan Dark!
Who do you think you are fooling Gill? only yourself. You are really a lonesome cowboy pooooor you!
It is interresting how much time you spend on your blog changing character from Jan dark, DG Patex etc this is called schizophrenia as a certain Dr Maboulle explained once on your blog.......
Freeky Gozye!
konper soungoula
Mr. Gill is not alone!
and he is fighting a monster.
Evil spirits are trying to stand in his way, but he will not stop!
went into victoria police station the other day...
The Police Officer said they do not make complaints aginst government workers that brake the law
good luck Mr Gill and please be careful.
If he is not alone who is with him!
Bann dondosya !
Bann siporter SNP nou war zot
Bann siporter PP nou war zot
Bann siporter MSR nou pa war zot
Soungoula,
You can fake,lie,use others names, but in fact these arethat signs of weakness and bankruptcy of ideas .YES chris is not alone .Who is with him?All those thousands of seselwa both inside and abroad,and Pp knows that, that is why it is trying all its better in an attempt to silence us.It is fear of losing their thornes and illegal priviledges they given themselves and fear of facing justice for their crimes.MSR works, that is why Pp finds it necessary to use intimidation on Chris and other MSR supporters, and that suggests that they are afraid.The struggle with continue Tikolor becuase it is our rights to decide who we want to lead us and how,we will not accept any longer Pp dictation .
There will be change in this country Tikolor whether Pp likes it or not and those crooks like Govinden,Morgan,Savy.and others their past will catch them and justice will be done and that even when they arte in the graves.
Sesel pou Seselwa!
Jeanne DÂrc
ZANN DARK if you had guts and believed in what you are writing sign your name to show how sincere you are! Why do you have to hide behind a fake name??? are you a kapon and paranoid. You are not courageous my dear so you will get nowhere.......Go down on the streets of Victoria and make your voice heard instead of hiding behind your computer! and dont tell me all your supposedly followers outside are scared too! What have they to loose to support MSR!
Truth is MSR is a fake party!
Tiklo wichser we have plane,you will hear our voice soon.Because we want to make it big when we will take in the street if we can not than we will use other mean than pp and snp have to watch there step.
Sesel pou Seselwa
Johnny
I like to make Pp search for me.There is taking to the streets but there is also other means i been thinkling and working on since a while with the help of European friends and experts namely to conduct a coup D^'êtat which i can and i am ready to finance.Just a tip have enough money to pay 10,000 or more armed somalis to do the job,they earn U$ 1 dollar per day, i am ready to give each single one of them u$ 1000 t0 5000 per month plus more once the job is done.^We will not allow Pp to dictator to us our future anymore donkey.
Jeanne DArc
Tiklo dandosya can give Peoples lkie you kozmar in your sleep at night.
Do you know this?
If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
Talking of Coup's only brings you down to their level, THE GUTTER.
All options should be concidered ,Pp has had all the time of the world to alter its corrupted and criminal regime it seems it is not in the capacity to do it by itself which is quite unstandable for the only thing Michel and its ilks know is dictatorship.,So we need to take things in our hands and do the job for them.
We won^t accept and tolerate any long such a criminal gang to oppose its criminal "will" on us.Thirty-four years on communism is more than enough and it has proven to be a disaster for our country,we must fix things now.
MICHEL MUST GO.
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Judge Karunakaran stressed on the term revolution in MSR manifesto as being a means for violence against the people of Seychelles and PP collaborators.
Why did Marie Pierre lloyd in the expo 2020 news used the same word "Revolution" in her interview yet the red light for her arrest has not been issued.
Could this be that the bankal law of Seychelles only applies to MSR??
Not at all Michel and his cohorts have alreaday lost their heads they illegally selling our patrimony to foreigners,allow them to construct against planning and construction laws of this country,allowing Arabs to illegally block Seychellois access to their Public beaches as it is hapening at Anse Copra,blowing up reef thus the risk of erossion to make way for Arab yachts not for fishermen as Michel the butcher is saying all that must and will be stop sooner than later and those responsible will be punished.Remember Saddam when Iraqis came for himwhat he did he went into hiding in a "Latrine" hole ,Gadhafi is doing the same at the moment next will be Michel and his gang.
Sesel pou Seselwa!
Jeanne D'Arc
ya but who gonna listen to marie pierre lloyd...come on guys
Probably a half brain to the like of MICHEL the butcher he cannot think by himself.Seychellois no longer listen to such nonse from the mouths of hypocrites we have been hearing those old communist tunes ofr three decades and it sound off beat in our ears.DÉGAGE PP.
Sesel pou Seselwa
Jeanne DArc
Gill & pilot
If I make you my boycott will you lend me your machine for my bef to make milk?????
Christopher Gill what is the political situation like in GUAM??? Where is that place they say you come from you???????????????
Gill is it true you live with a pilot????
I am very confuse. I ask you so many question but you dont answa me..is it true..
Peter Zamlak
Judge Karunakaran is but a lawyer, and not a very good one! Another croney.
BEF
It is a TORO you have he does not produce milk idiot.
Karunkaran isone of those many foreigners illegally controlling our institutions. For him it does not matter if he is good or not,the important think he is pocketing his astronaumic loan paid by our Tax payer money.He came to our shores as a poor in a rag like Ramadoss he will go back home if Michel has not already gifted him our passport as a RAJAH.
Jeanne D`Arc
This goes to show how unfair religion has been to father and jean Francois Ferrari, instead of showing them the light to god and handing them a bit of decency.
Even to this James Michel has khaliffa and his pilots to fly him out when the shit will hit the fan, whereas poor father religion still has not blessed this on him, also they will need a cargo plane pilot for him to carry the amount of dead beat livestocks and other animals with him, goes to show why his cow not just any cow john bull is raged at gill for employing me an airworthy guy who can fly just about anything with wings.
Bull do you know that i used to fly so high that i could spot golan dan pye bodanmyen and karya on the ground even to one time i flow so close to the ground at state house were i almost graze a cow called john bull.
No worries though it takes a fantastic aerodynamics literate individual to maneuver out of such flicks.
Pity Karunakaran. This case shows that he is out of his depth in the judiciary. He is also slow to pick up the changes since Rene was forced to dismantle the one-party state edifice and start multi-party politics. He is another foreign import who seems to display both incompetence and a desire to kowtow to his paymasters and citizenship giver. Perhaps he was not appointed for his competence when the SPPF appointed him -- that's not how they appoint judges.
A reform of the judiciary must include the sacking of judges whose pathetic judgements are overturned by the Court of Appeal.
As for the judiciary, as long as the likes of Karunakaran remain, it will be a case of one step forward and two steps backward. Could he have given a similar judgment in India and call Indian political parties racist ? I doubt it.
Karunakaran is a caricature straight out of George Orwell's 1984 -- doublethink and thoughtcrime etc etc.
Michel&PP there have to go,go and educate thier childrens who are becoming heroin addic and prostuitus in the street in Seychelles.Michel&PP get out of the kitchen you get not take the heat and you don't no how to cold down the heat.
Michel you has kill one of your son for his freedom some one i know from school.Now its time for you to take your rent and go and saw your last child and wife some love.Because this one you kill you didn't has love for him and you did respect his freedom like you and PP don't respect Seselwa freedom.
MURDER.
About coup D'etat if we will continue to suffer no freedom,no democracy no justice and just some some benefit,corruption selling our lands continue.A Coup will come your way.Another 35 years will be to much and it will be like leave in hell.
Sesel pou Seselwa
Johnny
Dear Friends
Do not forget it is very hard to get honesty from indians.No good judgement can be obtained from pseudo seychellois who are given citizenship for doing dirty jobs for an undemocratic system of government. And this is what MSR are continually warning the real seychellois because one day we will wake up and be like fiji island and these indians are going to decide the election outcome for us in the seychelles so long we remain divided and allow LP to import them in our country. They are not like Europeans, Americans and people who comes from real system of democracy. Remember what happens to the judge of court of appeal who refused to surrender his work ethics to please SPPF. He was paid all his dues and he left because he was a judge in the true sense and with dignity his displayed his proffessionalism. This is why most of the indians will become judges in the Seychelles by this undemocratic system because SPPF will give them the option either the stick or the carrot.These are some of the reasons why we have loads of indian managers at STC for the privileged to siphon the public money to put in their foreign account. The same thing applied for Nouvobank we have seychelles bank being run by indians. Congratulation LP keeping on feeding Indians with the Seychellois sweat and blood to deliver judgement in your favour.
From a concern Seychelles
It also shows that foreigners being imported by Pp to take Seychellois jobs abd illegally controlled our institution are not necessarily better qualified than Seychellois.Michel prefers foreigners becuase he pays them so they will obey and put into practice all his wishes for if they do not they will be sacked.Morevover most of those foreigners were not earning a high salary in their own countries Michel by importing us on our shores are creating foreign milionaires with Seychellois tax money< while Seychellois better qualified are not being paid enough for their jobs.
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Jeanne D'Arc
Ramadoss are making some Seselwa poor, Seselwa who don't think twice befor there put there feet in this Casino.
Why?because Ramadoss has manupilate those maschines like his helping to manupilate the maschine VOTE.Michel you and Rene make Harry Pool close his casino 1977 but you let Ramadoss build 5 casino on our lands.Just to take Seselwa money and mostly the poor one,some time there just pist peoples off on the streets just beging every day.Seen this Casino and heroin arrived in SeYCHELLES. Seychellios are poorer than befor like i know some of them, PP are geting fat becasue there are the Escobar.yOU can not fight drugs when your self are Escobar PP be real Devils.
PP WILL NOT CHANGE NOW THERE WANT TO BRING A COMMUNIST LAND TO WATCH THERE ASS RUSSIANS.REAL COMMUNIST WERE WE WILL END UP SESELWA?
The antics of people like Karunakaran will actually backfire on Parti Lepep. These antics may well recruit people to MSR's cause.
Fabrike and Rasin are two unfortunate terms. I heard Govinden explain what these two terms mean on the radio. It's not what I have read.
Was the Attorney General deliberately lying on the radio or just pig ignorant ?
The "legal" arguments Karunakaran used against MSR effectively make SPUP/SPPF an outlaw, unconstitutional party between 1964 and 1993. If it is a victory for PL, it is a bittersweet victory. In trying to stop MSR, Karunakaran has had to ironically condemn PL's past. If Michel has been handed a victory, Rene has been roundly condemned. That's what happens when judicial decisions are based on devious and perverse reasoning.
Karunakaran would have us believe that political parties like UK's National Front and France's Front National are unconstitutional in UK and France and violate UN Charters. In the name of democracy, Govinden would have then banned. I would rather think that our judiciary is cockeyed.
Karunakaran's meaning of the word 'revolution' is a disgrace and out of touch, given what is going on in Arab countries. What's going to happen to our own Revolution Avenue, in the face of Karunakaran put-down of the word ?
It is a cheap decision. It shames all Seychellois, irrespective of political affiliation. The PL government should sack Karunakaran for bringing PL into disrepute and for spectacularly failing to come up with credible reasons to uphold the ban on MSR. They clearly need better judges to rationalise without losing face what was a political decision by Gappy. Karunakaran should hang his head in shame.
It would have been better to let Christopher Gill register his party and test his political support. These judicial machinations appall many Seychellois. They serve to remind us of a judiciary that is not only kept by the government but also too heavily staffed by foreign judges whose independence is questionable. They generate sympathy for MSR.
Can MSR appeal this decision. It appears cases brought to the appeal court have better luck. Probably the judges on the appeal court are not as corrupted.
One should never ever trust an Indian in any position. They are the most corrupted people on the face of this earth. They were the ones that introduced Seychellois to the meaning of corruption. Our country is forever doom by them.
Karunakaran's job for the Parti Lepep should have been a very simple one -- find one credible reason not to register MSR. He failed and this is highly embarrassing for those who support PL and defend this judiciary. He came up with a litany of excuses.
The people of Seychelles should decide which political party they want to support, not judges. It sticks in the craw that a foreign judge should cast aside all pretence of judicial impartiality and tell us what political party we can or cannot support, 35 years after independence. If PL will not defend our independence, they should be kicked out.
No one for one moment thought that MSR would get a positive judgment from the Supreme court. Le Pep have made sure of that a while ago, they want to strangle it at birth, and quietly SNP wish the same. If Ramkalawan fails AGAIN at the next election, what is left, a one party state.
Ramadoss has not only monopolized Casinos but he does not even pay taxes. Moreover Michel has given him complete control over our local economy which he is using to import more indian to our shores to invade our land ,take Seychellois jobs and artificially modify our society.
Kurunakaran was recruited by Michel to do just what he is doing now abuse this institution to deliver judgement favourable to the corrupted pp regime.One must not forget that this is a man who probably what unemployed in India and what earning a poor salary therefore pocketing 100 times the amount just to fake justice is no doubt a good deal that he could not for go.
Govinden is not only an agent of but he is working for Khalifa and Co.he always come forward when to defend the interests of ofreigners disrepesting our laws but never see him when to force Khalifa to pay for his shit at la Misere or all those illegally construction by ofreigners on our coast,national reserves and so on. He is part of Pp corrupted machine that has been use to turn us into second class citizen in our own motherland.He can dance,jump,roll do what he wants now but time will surely catch him up and he will have to answer for his wrongdoing and participation in helping to destroy our nation.
As to MSR registration, Pp refusal to register the movement typifies many positive aspects for MSR-It proves that Pp cannot and will not change by itself unless we do the job for them,it shows that the afraid of being defeated by MSR thus lost their throne which will make them vulnerable and eventually face justice,It shows now important this Movement is that Pp must invest time and money to send stoolpigeons in the dawn of the night to spy on opposition supporters,in a word it is pure nothing than pure fear and that in itself ashould give us more courage and stregth to continue our fight in getting those crooks out of power and send them were they should really be at Montagne Possee.As those dictators are experiencing in North Africa and elseghere it is just a matter of time before it crumble.
If pp finds it necessary to invest thier time checking on MSR supporters it typifies that our methods work and seen it work we must continue on the same length.One does not change what works but perfect it to be more effective.
Sesel pou Seselwa!
Jeanne D'Arc
The Supreme Court judges are incapable of deciding political cases fairly. It has always been like that. I do not think Karunakaran will care if his ruling is overturned by the Court of Appeal. As far as he is concerned, he has delivered a ruling in favour of the government and that's that. He does not seem willing to put at risk any personal favours he might need from the government for himself or his family, in the name of justice in a country that is not even his country. The whole system is rotten to the core and there is nothing to be gained by being an upright judge.
We must be nuts to tolerate a situation like this.
The quality of the debate on this blog is junk. What a shame!
I think seychelles deseves better! How low and depressing. I see only insults against Indians Arabs and Seychellois who do not adhere to MSR. I would have hoped that the candidate to be would bring foreward solutionsand and ideas. I see no propositions and wonder what is the aim of this blog apart from hate speeches......
A concerned Seuchellois.
The ruling is nuts. It has been made by a non seychellois, who obtained his citizenship while sitting on the court, with GOP.
He has covered his personal position with PL but he has exposed that the country is not really democractic. He has brought great disrepute to the Courts, which only a higher court can clean up to save the face of courts and the image of Seychelles.
It is looking like a one party state with only a select opposition acceptable to the PL to participate. Naturally, they will not want to run against a real threat, but will prefer a dummy oppostion to run against.
I urge MSR people to pray, strengthen your resolve, take your case to the courts, but outsmart this idoits: FORM ANOTHER PARTY! THEN NOTHER--------------.
How decent is Karunakaran ? Given that he was dealing with the distinction between what MSR calls Seselwa Rasin and Fabrike, should he not have excused himself from the case owing to vested personal interests on account of his citizenship ? I believe a decent judge would have excused himself. But obviously not Karunakaran. Our judges' motives should be beyond reproach, like Caesar's wife.
The silver lining is that MSR got some priceless publicity on SBC. When was the last time an opposition leader and his cause got that much coverage on SBC, apart from party conferences ? I believe the SBC report was balanced, something quite remarkable in itself. Seychelles Nation is stubbornly ignoring the greatest constitutional debate for quite a while, displaying the sort of blind political loyalty that Colonel Gaddaffi would give an arm and a leg (his) for. In any case, I am sure SBC's powerpoint presentation of the judge's rantings went well above the head of the average Seychellois who tuned in on Thursday night. Court of Appeal judges based in Seychelles, on the other hand, must have been rolling on the floor with laughter.
It is fine for Karunakaran to quote freely and selectively from a constitution and international conventions that Parti Lepep have always ignored with boundless enthusiasm and it has never been pulled up by a Supreme Court lackey for its flagrant and multiple transgressions. But the facts just do not support the outcome of Karunakaran's short dalliance with these documents. It would not surprise me if he had never in his life seen a copy of these international conventions up to now. If Attorney General's office had a copy, that's by no means clear, Govinden must have spent ages dusting them off to be used in this case.
Egonda-Ntende was supposed to be the new broom that sweeps clean when he replaced Alleear 18 months ago as Chief Justice. There seems to be an awful lot of sweeping to do. There is no better place to start than Victoria Supreme Court No. 2 where Karunakaran is currently ensconced.
As you called yourself a concernced Seychellois it seems your most concern is how to help Pp keep hold of power in order that you can make a living by depending on Tax payers money instead of sweating like most ordinary Seychellois.When we say Ramadoss is not a Seychellois it is not a question of hate it a reality why?Becuase our passport was gifted to him by Pp ,his naturalizatio was done against the law,the same goes to those illegaly construction perpetrating by foreigners on our coast,national reserves as,the blocking on public beaches by foreigners and so on,these are all illegal according to our rule of laws .Moreover it happens to be those ofreigners with the help of Pp who are breaching our laws so it is noraml that we critcize both Pp and those foreigners who are acting against our laws and this would have been the norm in any country in the world including Khalifa in his own land.A Seychellois who is concernced should not be attempting to defence illegality by a handful of crooks itshould be defending its country and people unless you are one of those handful of anti->Seychellois like Michel the butcher.if you are concern why are you not condeming Pp illegal acts instead.
YES indeed Seychelles deserve better that is what we freedom loving people who are the majority in this country are doing on a daily basis though Pp criminal tactics of intimidation,repression,etc....YES Seychelles should not have been bankrupted by a half brained idiot.YES our patrimony is not for sell.YES Air Seychelles should have been a profitable company.YES IDC should be Seychellois property not that of a bandit to the likes of SAVy,.
YES selling our land for one ldevaluated rupee is a crime.YES purloining U$2,5 billion dollars from the people's coffer while we the same crooks have left an astrnomic debts to our children is a crime and asghould be punished.Signing illegal contracts with pseudo-company that no one ever heard of is a crime the list is unless and this typifies your comment that Seychelles deserve better and to achieve that those who have brought our country in this mess must be deal with.
And that is also why we say loud and clear Seychelles for Seychellois.And that is why man have created sovereign states among nation.What is your problem dog?
Jeanne D'Arc
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