Seychelles Electoral Commissioner Gappy in collusion with Party Lepep to stop MSR party registration
It would seem that the MOUVMAN SESELWA RASIN (MSR) has become James Michel and his Parti Lepep's worst nightmare! The party has filed for registration since 6 months and it is only recently that the Seychelles Electoral Commissioner, Hendricks Gappy has moved to prevent this from happening. Not content with blocking the registration (twice already), the State House sponsored thugs were ordered to break in and ransack the party headquarters at Docklands. Fear and intimidation is now the weapon being used to curtail democracy and free speech! MSR has turned out to be the bee in the bonet of the mighty Parti Lepep who fears a real credible opposition that is exposing all their evil deeds and threatening its political survival.
Herewith a press release and letter to to the Commonwealth Secretariat sent by MSR
Good job Chris ,you have again shown us the quality of leadership you posses by your actions.An effective leader just don^t talk the talk but walk the walk PP.
ReplyDeleteThe use of initimidation has been at the pinacle of Pp communist regime for the last thirty five years that all they know.The use of intimidation and lawlessness is both hirific and shameless as it a clear reflection of totaritian tendencies of the Pp communist system.The fact that PP has restored to systematic intimidation as a official governemnt policy show the extent to which it is willing to indulge in illegal activities just to ensure it survival.The recent vadalism on the office of MSR ba statehouse paid criminals is a clear illustration of the desperassion of pp regime.
The intended outcome of the practice of initimidation and lawlessness is a social environment of increase fear.
But PP the state of artificial democracy cannot survive anymore.
You can play all your communist cards but in the end democracy will win.
And Pp intimidation would not deter us in fact it makes us more determine than ever.
MSR will be the party to count with in the future of this country whether you like it or not.We will succeed as MSR is not a fake opposition but real.
And remember PP,Sesel pou Seselwa!Vive MSR,vive Seselwa Rasin.
Jeanne D'Arc
It is good to finally see some leadership emerge from a political party in Seychelles.
ReplyDeleteMr. Gill, I wish you the best of luck in your future political endeavours. It takes great courage to take on James Michel and his state funded party that has been in power for over 3 decades. You and your party will need the support of many Seychellois if you are to succeed in removing the Party Lepep from power. I am sure that James Michel will continue to rig the election just like his predecessor Albert Rene. We need outside agencies to remove power from Hendricks Gappy who is no doubt laughing all the way to the bank with his new found wealth and privileges. One man should not control the electoral process but Party Lepep, ALbert and Michel planned it this way so that they could control everything to do with elections.
May God shine his light on our country so that the people can finally remove the scourge of SPUP, SPPF and Party Lepep from our lives once and for all.
THank you Mr. Gill and good luck.
A disenchanted SNP supporter who will give you his vote.
Glad to see someone challenge the status quo. Go for it Gill and continue to challenge Michel and Ramkalawan. They have let the people of Seychelles down.
ReplyDeleteWell done Christopher, the fear factor that the sppf/lepep used to weild on the population is dimishing thanks to people like you who dare to stand up to them. Fear and intimidation are their weapons to silence all dissenting voice, do not let them get to you, they are a bunch of cowards. Break ins, thefts, arson, murders, bullying, torture are their methods, they are fighting for their own survival because they know if they lose at the next election they are finished. As time goes by and the people realised they are being take for a ride, they find their grip on powere diminishing day by day, they resort to despicable deeds such as killing or committing other abominable acts against their opponents. Don't let this deter you, they are more afraid of you, you should perceivere Chris and get those scumbags out of power
ReplyDeleteYes let us not forget that the Hutu shot down their own President's plane so they could unleash their evil. A plan hatched by bright educated lawyers and doctors.
ReplyDeleteWhat a pity so many BIGOTwa in Seychelles. MSR slogan is really "Disenfranchise Immigrants"
ReplyDeleteSESEL POU SESELWA PA POU BIGOTWA KI APEL ZOT LEKOR RASINWA
Christopher Gill,
ReplyDeleteFor starters, Malborough House will not swallow your poppy-cock because they can see through you that your half-truths, innuendoes and accusations highlights the absurdities of it all. In the final analysis, Malborough House has come to the conclusion that "oune Kapot avek Lass Pik" and your farago of verbiage can only by described as "bloody murder by language."
And Gill, kan ou pou aret Kakaye?.
Ooohhhh I forgot to sign off...
ReplyDeleteRegards by all means from Ti Kreol Le O enler la ho la ba enba la kolin pai en ke.
What is your problem with Sesel pou Seselwa.When Indians claim that India was for Indians and not for British before independnece it was okay,Or America for American,Japan for Japanese etc it is okay, when Seselwa say Sesel pou Seselwa you have a problem with it.Shoud we say Sesel pou Khalifa or Arabs.
ReplyDeleteThe immigrants you talking about are not immgrants in the proper meaning of the word,but rather foreigner workers brought illegally to our shores by PP to :artificially modify our society, etc but mostly to be gifted our passports in order that Pp can use them as protential voters in elections with the sole purpose to keep Pp artificilally on power.A good example is all those Hindus marching our streets each year who are claiming themselves seselwa though they have nothing in common with this country and its people.
Seychelles was never a potential immigrant destination as USA,Canada,Europe,Singapur,Australia etc ,PP has brought in those foreigners as part of its communist tactics to rod our future and make us second class citizen in one own country with the hope to hold on power for iternity.And ,seychelles has immigrant law in place if those who came here did not conform with our laws then as any democratic country it is a duty toinforce the rule of law and make it respected.
In contary to Pp communist party who think the rule of law is PP and its lackeys.
Jeanne D'Arc
By the way ,Ti Kreole le o,Pp your party has said sesel is not Kreole but Arabic. this must be an offence to your pride.If pp continues in this manner Tikolor you might end up pulling Khalifa around in his new kingdom in a cart.This would mean back to slavery Tikolor.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
jDark,
ReplyDeleteNo problem with Sesel pou Seselwa. Problem with Sesel pou BIGOTwa ki apel zot lekor Rasinwa. MSR say Sesel pou Seselwa but mean target immigrants.
Sesel was never a destination for immigrants? what are you the original dodo lived for thousand years on the island in the Indian Ocean?
Immigrants are not people who come to work? For you what are good immigrants jDark, one who comes for bogus asylum and to live on benefits?
And by the way MSR says Sesel is not Kreol but Seselwa i.e anybody who live anywhere in the world in 1976 who consider himself Seselwa or their decendants! What a 3 degrees definition!! :-)
Maybe the definition of good immigrants are those who come to work and contribute to society in addition to abiding the laws of the state and not come to merely exploit the good then sod off to their next convenient destination.
ReplyDeleteAR
Chris,you are the constipation medication for the PL alias SPUP/SPPF.MSR party will not recognize by GAPPY because JAM is scared to death.....why,MSR will take votes from PL,they know about that and they will not get 50+% of the votes
ReplyDeleteMost of all MSR stands for Mwa Ser Rene!!! also Mwa Ser Ramkalawan!!!
Keep up the good work.
Madenm Delhombre Suporter.
Congratulation,Mr C Gill.it is good to see a person with initiative.
ReplyDeleteIt is time to have a change of government in the Seychelles.
For the life of me, I don't understand how the Seychelles residents have tolerate thirty and more years of this oppressive,corrupt government.
Keep on the good work.
Abu Hamza Fanatic-
ReplyDeleteFreedom of Speech and Freedom of Expression Freedom of Association are fundamental human rights.
By respecting these rights, you allow an individual or group, to celebrate in their humanity.
By tolerating the Speech, expression and the association, if they are not breaking laws, you are celebrating your own humanity.
To do other wise, you reduce your own humanity and your victims.
Hence why we refer to killers, as animals. To torturers as savages and uncivilized, to people that give the orders to break into an office for documents, that they can get off the internet as blunted communist idiots out of touch with reality.
The pillar of Free Speech is this: "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it".
Either Seychelles is a democracy or it is not. Right now, it is looking very much like a tin pot Commmunist Junta Government led by a former Colonel of the Army and former Coup Leader, supported by Sheik Khalifa Al Zayed Bin Al Nayan financially.
Your democratic credentials are fading fast, faster then you could pick the lock to the MSR office door.
Straighten your backs and clear the cob webs from your brain PL Collaborators.
Christopher Gill
Abu Hamza Fanatic-
ReplyDeleteFreedom of Speech and Freedom of Expression Freedom of Association are fundamental human rights.
By respecting these rights, you allow an individual or group, to celebrate in their humanity.
By tolerating the Speech, expression and the association, if they are not breaking laws, you are celebrating your own humanity.
To do other wise, you reduce your own humanity and your victims.
Hence why we refer to killers, as animals. To torturers as savages and uncivilized, to people that give the orders to break into an office for documents, that they can get off the internet as blunted communist idiots out of touch with reality.
The pillar of Free Speech is this: "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it".
Either Seychelles is a democracy or it is not. Right now, it is looking very much like a tin pot Commmunist Junta Government led by a former Colonel of the Army and former Coup Leader, supported by Sheik Khalifa Al Zayed Bin Al Nayan financially.
Your democratic credentials are fading fast, faster then you could pick the lock to the MSR office door.
Straighten your backs and clear the cob webs from your brain PL Collaborators.
Christopher Gill
Comment To Jeanne Dárc-
ReplyDeleteSesel Pou Seselwa is a problem because Michel's strategy is to sell Seychelles.
Recent decision to allow Eden Island operate an illegal hotel pool legally is an example of that.
Selling Seychelles to Khalifa is another example.
I call on all Seychellois who love their country to sign off with SESEL POU SESELWA on each comment.
Greet each other everyday, with "SESEL POU SESELWA" until our buyers understand, they can give whatever exist under the sun, Seychelles is not for sale, and our citizenship is not for sale.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
Christopher Gill
Michel must be scratching his head saying,
ReplyDelete"why did we go BANKRUPT",
"why did I break into MSR office",
"why did we not register MSR",
"why is Ramkalawan so lame to attack MSR along with PL"?
"why does Patrick X call us SNPL"?
"Why does Khalifa have strings attached to everything he gives me?""
SAD
The voices in his head are back. Take the advice of your own supporter. Good immigrant is not one who exploit the good in Guam and sod off to the next convienient destination.
ReplyDeleteMy god! Christopher Gill supports Abu Hamza Fanatic! How dispicable, but I am not surprised.
ReplyDeleteSesel pou SESELWA pas pou BIGOTwa ki apel zot lekor RANSS-INN-VWAR!
ReplyDeleteDONT WORRY ALL MSR SUPPOTERS.WE ARE READY TO DEFEND OURSELF AGAINST THE DEVILS IF THERE USE WEAPON AGAINST MSR OR ANY OF MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS SESELWA.
ReplyDeleteAhhhh the BROWNSHIRTS have arrived. We was wondering when they will show up.
ReplyDeleteLike it or not, the PL have had to change and will continue to change to the better leaving their old failed habits behind.
ReplyDeleteAn interesting background article in afrol.com says it all and confirms the failures of the past, the present situation and potential for the future in addition to clearly showing our vulnerabilities that the PL must take seriously. They survived the financial JAM and managed to creep out and stumbled back on their feet, but they cannot afford another one.
http://www.afrol.com/features/36895
What I like best about this one is the truth about Rene's failure and JAM's continuous spending spree after taking over the mess. The article says it all. I just hope they've finally learned from it. After all at the end of the day I don't think the Seychellois really care who is in charge as long as the machinery runs like a well balanced and well lubricated engine.
But no, I don't call the PL SNPL, it's SNP I refer to as SNPL.
PaTeX
Now the rest of the world is saying what we have been saying all along. Albert Rene got it all wrong and has been a disaster for Seychelles.
ReplyDeleteAnd he was not even elected by anyone to take over the country !
MSR will take this issue to court under advise of its legal team at a time suitable to MSR, not any PL Collaborator.
ReplyDeleteSesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Lol, and this is th urgency to get ready for the elections? Pathetic letter writer.
ReplyDeleteMy problem is that all of a sudden my ... really started to stink even after a shower. I mean it smells like s..it myself or like I just took a s..it and didn't bother to wipe my .... I can asure that I don't s..t myself and I wipe my ... until clean. I even tried that sphincterine stuff which seems not to work for me. This problem made me drop out of society to spare myself the embarassment and haven't gotten laid in a while which kills me because everyone ask me why I don't want to hang out with them and the 'sick' excuse is getting quite old. I seriously have no idea what to do, it is really bothering me because I am ashamed just to go out of my kalorifer. It is weird because when I sit down it feels like theres s..t in my .... but when I go to wipe nothings on the napkin and the sphincterine just blends with the smell. If you could please help me because now I just sit at home like a loser and cannot hang out with my friends without feeling ashamed. This is why i have become a geek.......
ReplyDeleteTwistopher
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ReplyDeleteDon't feel ASShamed............
Go to RAMADOS ASAP..........
Why?
It's your HEMORRHOID stupid....
Seychelles pour Seychellois.
Vivre le party MSR.
Hendricks Gappy went from being a simple statistics man to a millionaire overnight. Thanks to Albert Rene and James Michel who took him under their wings and thought him how to manipulate the voter registry, create new Seselwa who never existed before, forged ID cards so that underage people could vote and a whole lot of other fraudulent moves.
ReplyDeleteGappy is as corrupt as the rest of the Party Lepep high-level officials and should be judged accordingly. One day when the people of SEychelles find out that Gappy was behind this voter fraud, he must be punished with a life imprisonment sentence. He can then rot in jail with Albert, Michel, the Savy's, Adam and Mukes and Changleng.
Empty drums are the loudest - Jeanne d'Arc just doesn't know how efficient the guy is at talking, walking and crossing - just wait until things get hot. Wa ha ha - away he goes, jumps across, gone, vamoss - wonder where to next???
ReplyDeletePL Collaborators that prop up FAILURE-
ReplyDeleteYou want to run to elections without MSR certified to participate because you fear MSR.
You know MSR will defeat you.
You know MSR is registering SPPF , SNP, DP, NDP, voters that see through JAM and know he has sold our patrimony and will continue to sell her.
You know the People of Seychelles will react. This is why JAM seeks military support from UAE to prop his COMMUNIST JUNTA government after SHAM ELECTIONS, which will be contested only by those who JAM decides he wants to run against.
After Burma registeres Aun SUUN SU Kyi's party, what do you think the PL Communist Junta will start looking like to the world?
SESEL POU SESELWA!
VICKTOR BOUT IS ON HIS TO THE US FOR TRAIL.
ReplyDeleteWHEN JAM&RENE WILL BE ARRESTED AND BE TRAIL FOR THERE SPONSOR OF AMRS FOR CRIMES AND GENOCIDE IN RAWANDA
SESEL POU SESELWA.
Whats the delay in MSR going to court? Answer MSR don't want to go to court as they know the creed will be thrown out like a nazi toilet paper roll.
ReplyDeleteSESEL POU SESELWA PAS POU BIGOTWA KI APEL ZOT LEKOR RANNS-INN-VWAR
http://www.economist.com/node/17209794?story_id=17209794&CFID=153671895&CFTOKEN=25918834
ReplyDeleteWhat a sad state of affair in the so call paradise where a group of pseudoleaders think that they have the legitimate right to rule over us? Now it is pretty clear why he his associating himself with Khallifa so that he will be the royal family in the seychelles has it has been the status quo for the past thirty years. Sorry SPPF the world of intimidation is not a norm in this world any more. Do whatever you want your days are coming and all your evils will be exposed and SPPF will be in the history and their leadership will be behund bars or in exile. Dictatorship do not last very long and the truth will prevail. Thank today we have Mr Christopher Gill who is presenting himself as a true leader who will see us through a just society and a real democracy. What a disappointment for the opposition who has falling inlove with the material world and has failed to deliver pretending that a non confrontation approach to the SPPF tactic would serve them right but the same approach by the former DP leader Mr Mancham was seen to be a very weak tactics. Poor man he was vilified and back stabbed today the same apprroached is being followed by SNP to the letter. Shame on you and the december i will make sure that i switch my radio during the intervention on the budget because your hypocrisy is too good to be true. You SNP you might defer with Mr Gill's approached but when illegal and non constitutional tactics are being used by the party in power there should be no compromised on democratic principle. To express your solidarity with Mr Gill and the proof that you firmly believed inthe rule of law and due process. You fool SPPF you are doing MR GIll more right than wrong because people is asking what is the problem with Mr Gill's party that is sending shiver down the spine of the SPPF leaderships and what Mr Gill is advocating this is what bordinary people is continually saying to the fake Seychelloise when they tried to assert their authority to on us. SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH SPPF what is your moto since none of your past moto were sincere to our people. Going from more dollars in our pocket to become a nation of beggars with our dignity erodding every single day with the arrival of the Antonov of the camel that excrete golden feaces from Arabia. Sorry those who do not agree with Mr Gill we are heading to a sham election engineered in the Office of Gappy and the SPPF leadership because they do not believe in real democracy and they think that the people of Seychelles are their commodity for election time.
ReplyDeleteThe picture on the Nation today of Michel and some Sheik is bogus. SBC TV showed the same thing last night, pretending that Michel was on a working visit to UAE.
ReplyDeleteMichel did not fly to UAE and Dubai for a state visit to discuss piracy issues. He flew there to watch the Formula One race at Yas Marina in Abut Dhabi. The tag on the Sheik shows it all and the picture was taken at Yas Marina F1 circuit.
The circus was yesterday morning at the airport when Michel landed, having flown first class on Emirates Flight No. 705 from Dubai. There were at least 15 cars waiting at the VIP lounge but the circus was at the luggage carousel that had been taken over by little slaves from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and State House, each with a bib that had "Protocol" written on it. Even the water pourer was there picking suitcases off the carousel for the President and his entourage.
How sad is that for Seychelles? Michel gallavanting off to Formula One races courtesy of Sheik Khalifa Kaka while the people of Seychelles suffer without water. And he had a gun on June 5th 1977 stating that he was removing James Mancham because the latter was always travelling and selling Seychelles to the Arabs! How ironic is that?
Seselwa, ouver zot lizye e tir sa COUYON dan state house.
Here's the reports on James Michel's visit to Yas Marina to watch the Formula One race at Yas Marina:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle09.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/November/international_November658.xml§ion=international
http://gulfnews.com/mobile/sport/motorsport/abu-dhabi-has-the-winning-formula-says-khalifa-1.712151
All those PP made millionaires to the likes of Gappy,RAM,and others would have to account of the HOW they become multi-millionaires and if they cannot justify how they become millionaires over night we could say that these are stolen p money of the people and should be confiscationed and return to its legitamate owner the people.
ReplyDeleteJeanne D'Arc
SNP has been attacking MSR for not being certified as a Political Party.
ReplyDeleteThe bigger picture is that by not certifying MSR, Gappy has unknowingly exposed how undemocratic the processes in Seychelles really are. He has single handedly exposed that after 17 years, we are still a dictatorship that has no tolerance for opposing beliefs to the ruling party.
I have only articulated what Gappy has highlighted in the Letter to Secretary General of the Commonwealth, a letter that should have been written by Mr. Ramkalawan himself as Leader of the Opposition, anytime over the last year.
The incident of breaking into MSR office and taking modems and hard copy files, shows how desparate PL is and how insecure they are even if the political playing field is not levelled to their advantage.
It is a moment that all Opposition should be taking careful not of and seeking common ground to remove a common enemy of the People.
Common ground is not found when one seeks appointments to State House to settle matters internally, with a Petition in hand..... that is part of the SHAM ELECTION process.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
Once Pp has been removed Khalif's name will also be reomved at of our hospital.We have enough importance persons in our history that thweir names can be used- Moroe de Seychells,le duke de Praslin from which Praslin earned its anmes,mahe de labourdone from which mahe was naemd betc but no an islamic name and bedouin who has notzhing to do with our history.
ReplyDeleteKhalifa go home ,Sesel pou Seselwa camel.
Jeanne d'Arc
Sesel pou seselwa camel! YEAH!
ReplyDeleteZENDARK Changed the slogan SESEL POU SESELWA... had too much baka dear?
ZANN ZANN ZANN !
ReplyDeleteMoroe de Seychells,le duke de Praslin from which Praslin earned its anmes,mahe de labourdone from which mahe was naemd betc
CORRECTION
MOREAU DES SECHELLES
DUC DE PRASLIN
MAHE DE LABOURDONNAIS
PA KOUYAS mem ou prop zistoir ou pa konin dapre mwan ounn pas tro bokou letan GUAM!
Msye Labourdone ek madam Monroe marilyn
Moroe de Seychelle? Why not call it Tiklo Ward instead, i.e Moron De Seychelles?
ReplyDeleteAdolf declare some Germans as artificial German and make their life hell if they dont leave.
ReplyDeleteAmin declare some Ugandan as artificial Ugandan and make their life hell if they dont leave.
Hutu declare some Rwandan as artificial Rwanadan and make their life hell if they dont leave
Mugabe declare some Zimbabwean as artificial Zimbabwean and make their life hell if they dont leave.
Serb declare some Yugoslavian as artificial yugoslavian and make their life hell if they don't leave.
MSR declare some Seychellois as artificial Seychellois and advocate make their life hell for them to leave.
With this group of fellowship MSR have no legitamacy to represent good and morality.
SESEL POU SESELWA PAS POU BIGOTWA KI APEL ZOT LEKOR RANNS-INN-VWAR!
Had it been that simple I would have agreed with you, but alas this isn't about those who've earned their citizenship and GOP through hard work, bt about those who have got it after various pay-offs to the 'right' people. I just can't understand why that is so hard to understand.
ReplyDeleteFor crying out loud, we're being sold off for peanuts as if we were all a bunch of monkeys. Then agan I understand that the payment is peanuts as it is monkeys who are making the deals.
PaTeX
So if the percieved threat is from powerful investors, why is the focus of MSR on disenfranchising immigrants?
ReplyDeleteBecause MSR plays on and exploits and tries to legitimize, the otherwise naive and charming old world bigotry that exists in our lovely backwaters.
The threat from immigration trend can be eliminated with a cap, undesirables can be prosecuted individually by due process etc.
But MSR chooses to give the people some immigrants to feed on instead.
Well Tikolor yes those immigrants to the likes of Ramadoss,Siva and others who optained our citizenship illegally should be dealt with.Why Tikolor,we a sovereign land,with rule of law and a constitution that stipulate what is permitable and not.
ReplyDeleteYour argument is baseless becuase it sole purpose is an attempted to defence PP illegaly deeds and thereby hoping that Seychellois should accept Ramadoss,Siva and others as Seychllois though they granted our nationality illegally.
Tikolor we would not legitimize PP illegality .We believe in rule of law and justice Pp will have to face justice for their deeds.Using Racism as a way to disguise PP real criminal face will not work .It did not work yesterdaymit will not today and won^t tommorrow.
Jeanne D'Arc
Tikolor
ReplyDeleteMahe de La bourdonais Of course Mahe,La digue from the ship of Margnion du frene,Dito to curieuse Island and Felicite.Tikolor it seem you know more about Khalifa than your own History.A person without a history Tikolor is like a tree without root.
Jeanne D'Arc
Jenny Dork, who the banjo is WE? Christopher Gill have already clearly said that you don't represent MSR.
ReplyDeleteSo you think you are the Queen of England having a royal wee? Other wise start your own wee bigot movman!
Tikolor i won^'t Stop saying Selesel Pou seselwa,becuase it is a fact.Why MSR is becoming stronger and stronger everyday,be cuase seychellois find and identify themselves with the movement,it reflects their WILL and aspiration,while Pp communist party represent a handful of gangsters who forced Seselwa to live under their dictatorship, for those fake creatures would never had survived or came to power in a democratic society and that is why Seselwa are saying no to COMMUNISM.
ReplyDeleteYou donot change what works Tikolor ,you perfect it.
Bigotwa are those to the likes of Ramadoss,Siva and others who were artificially ,illegally made Seychellois without following the immigrantion law of this country.Illegality cannot be legitimate Tikolor unless you are call communists ,who find illegally as a norm.People with common sense cannot accept such a failed and wicked ideology.
Jeanne D'Arc
Still you opinion dont represent MSR. So says the Messiah Gill.
ReplyDeleteSesel pou Seselwa pas pou bigotwa ki apel zot lekor ranns-in-vwar!
Reply to all Collaborators-
ReplyDeleteYour main line of defense to MSR has been that the ideology of MSR is racist based.
People paper has taken this line without intellectually being in gear similar to many comments on the blog.
SNP Collaborators take this line as well without much thought as well. Patex however, has ID SNP as a National (everywhere) party if you will and MSR as a Nationalism movement. He is correct in the distinction.
But none of Collaborators say which group or race is MSR racist towards. Nazism was racist towards the Jews and non Aryan races.
You are all dead silent and your silence exposes the fallacy behind your sophistry or half truths to defend yourselves collectively.
It also exposes your desperation collectively, as you have become exposed to selling our Patrimony and selling of Citizenship liberally as a means to raise funds to pocket and fuel corruption in Seychelles, making it the in the Top 50 Rankings of Transparency International "Most Corrupted States in the World".
You do not say that Seselwa Rasin come from all races, Black, White, Indians, Chinese, French, English. We are a melting pot of races and cultures, but we are also a distinct recognized people under the United Nations Charter, recognized as a distinct people, with distinct language, and culture.
You give the impression that we Seselwa Rasin project ourselves as some superior race. We never said we were better then any other peoples of the world.
Yet, you are silent for the importation of Apartheid on Eden Island to Seychelles.
A Seychellois needs a PASS to walk about Eden Island 2inch x 4inch tagged to his front pockets. The beaches have been sold, the waterways sold.
We always say, that our Patrimony and our Citizenship is not for sale. Seychelles is our country, and we retain exclusive right to political control of her affairs, and will not tolerate the meddling by out side interests, in our internal affairs.
Corruption in Seychelles is not acceptable Collaborators.For this, you refer to us as WEEDS, that cramp your garden of corruption.
GOP workers must never be entitled to Citizenship unless they qualify for Seselwa Rasin status through an exception to the rules or Humanitarian reasons.
The efforts of MSR have highlighted that Democracy in Seychelles is about to collapse.
I will highlight the key points in an article soon for the world to read.
When you read the article, and facts are stated, don't blame the WEEDS when you neglected to care for your garden of Democracy for 17 years.
Instead of flourishing, Democracy in Seychelles is wilting fast!
SESEL POU SESELWA!
Christopher Gill
Reply to all Collaborators-
ReplyDeleteYour main line of defense to MSR has been that the ideology of MSR is racist based.
People paper has taken this line without intellectually being in gear similar to many comments on the blog.
SNP Collaborators take this line as well without much thought as well. Patex however, has ID SNP as a National (everywhere) party if you will and MSR as a Nationalism movement. He is correct in the distinction.
But none of Collaborators say which group or race is MSR racist towards. Nazism was racist towards the Jews and non Aryan races.
You are all dead silent and your silence exposes the fallacy behind your sophistry or half truths to defend yourselves collectively.
It also exposes your desperation collectively, as you have become exposed to selling our Patrimony and selling of Citizenship liberally as a means to raise funds to pocket and fuel corruption in Seychelles, making it the in the Top 50 Rankings of Transparency International "Most Corrupted States in the World".
You do not say that Seselwa Rasin come from all races, Black, White, Indians, Chinese, French, English. We are a melting pot of races and cultures, but we are also a distinct recognized people under the United Nations Charter, recognized as a distinct people, with distinct language, and culture.
You give the impression that we Seselwa Rasin project ourselves as some superior race. We never said we were better then any other peoples of the world.
Yet, you are silent for the importation of Apartheid on Eden Island to Seychelles.
A Seychellois needs a PASS to walk about Eden Island 2inch x 4inch tagged to his front pockets. The beaches have been sold, the waterways sold.
We always say, that our Patrimony and our Citizenship is not for sale. Seychelles is our country, and we retain exclusive right to political control of her affairs, and will not tolerate the meddling by out side interests, in our internal affairs.
Corruption in Seychelles is not acceptable Collaborators.For this, you refer to us as WEEDS, that cramp your garden of corruption.
GOP workers must never be entitled to Citizenship unless they qualify for Seselwa Rasin status through an exception to the rules or Humanitarian reasons.
The efforts of MSR have highlighted that Democracy in Seychelles is about to collapse.
I will highlight the key points in an article soon for the world to read.
When you read the article, and facts are stated, don't blame the WEEDS when you neglected to care for your garden of Democracy for 17 years.
Instead of flourishing, Democracy in Seychelles is wilting fast!
SESEL POU SESELWA!
Christopher Gill
Twister,
ReplyDeleteEden island is not apartheid land. Coloured people including seselwa own property on Eden island. If you are calling it apartheid land because majority of property owners are from South Africa. Let me remind you apartheid ended in south Africa over 15years ago. I have visited island on several occasions be it to take a drink at the boardwalk or to watch fishing competition weigh in and have not Been asked to wear the pas you are referring to. If staff need to wear it there is mo problem with that. The residential area is private property and they have all right to stop people roaming around if they have no business. Have you not blocked off access to your property. Finally if that short memory of yours can be stretched back a little further you will remember that when Eden island was reclaimed from the see there were no waterways or beaches. All these were created artificially by Eden island developers within the area they purchased therefore has all right to remain private property. Same way the artificial beach was created at Mahe beach which is also private property.
Twiter
ReplyDeleteeden isalnd was built by using Tax payers money which Michel-pp has then as usual decided to gifted a foreigner in order to build his own fantasy state.it is illegal Twiter a.k.a Tikolr.
Jeanne D'arc
Twister From Eden Island-
ReplyDeleteSays that the beaches created are private. Eden is silent on the waterways and I assume it thinks that is private aswell.
Jeanne Dárc correctly highlights that the Island was built with tax payers money.
To extend on that thought, it was the Lehman Brother Bonds that Seychelles defaulted on that was rescheduled to create Eden Island.
We will pay for it for generations.
Now Twister from Eden says the beaches and waterways are private.
They are private because the corrupted government of SPPF gave them to you in a deed. The Deed breached the Constitution and laws of Seychelles, that does not make your private beach and private waterways legal.
Regarding Apartheid, yes, it ended in South Africa 17 years ago. But the idea and conceptualization of Apartheid, in the sense, that one can live separate from the community and have full independence from townships not far, in Seychelles case, housing estates, is emmulated well by Eden Island. You even have a gate, cones, on a dedicated public road across the bridge, to stop traffic and verify who enters- who exits.
Badges are worn by Seychellois to move about. If it looks like apartheid , it looks like apartheid, it must have some traits of Apartheid.
No Seychellois should have to wear a badge to move about in his Country.
This violates the Right to Freedom of Movement protected under our Constitution.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
Christopher Gill
Talk about half truths, The Americans did not allow Seselwa to roam freely in the Tracking Station or the Sattelite Club. That was ok?
ReplyDeleteTalk about half truths, Eden Island is a private gated community. This concept exist even in America, its part of capitalism. So the staff and non-hosted visitor must wear ID badge. Seselwa must wear ID badge in many places of work where access is controlled e.g. the Airport, New Port, Bank, All inclusive resort, Seybrew, IOT etc.
Vagrancy and right to roam are two end of the same freedom. See if you can exercise your freedom to "hang out" in Malibu and some gated community in Miami Florida.
As to Bigotry and racism, yes we know the MSR document stays silent. But the MSR supporter does not, and the MSR leader does not make any real effort to sanction them. In fact he comes to defend them. The action speaks louder than the words. Like they say give a man enough rope and he will hang himself! Enjoy the rope of your freedom of speech.
And as have been said before you don't have to be of a different race to be racist toward it. Hutu and Tutsi were from same race, but by god the hutu militia was bigoted and racist.
Sesel Pou SESELWA...Pa Pou BIGOTwa ki apel zot lekor RASIST-INN-VWAR
Reply to Twisted Eden Island-
ReplyDeleteWe see through your writing and posts you cling to straws to survive the debate when truth is placed at your naked feet.
You can twist and call people names, but Truth defeats you easily.
Defeat-1. Silent on the transfer of beaches and water ways which the people of Seychelles paid for and Constitution and laws prevent.
Defeat -2. invoking badge requirement at a colonial british US military installation in 1964 and ports, airports, etc... What kind of residential community with Tourism component requires locals to wear ID badges with pictures and names on it? Tourism Prison Camp? This is your version of being part of the community?
This is the exact point I make when I assert that Apartheid is being imported into Seychelles through Eden Island.
We Seychellois must say no to this arrogance.
Perhaps some may say return you the favor and you have to wear a badge on the main island to ID you as an Eden Island Resident? Two wrongs do not make a right, but we will draw the line.We are not dogs or lessor humans.
Defeat 3. You say MSR is silent on attacking any Race. You are right. It is intentionally silent, because we Seychellois, have no racism in our thought or mind set. It is you Eden Island Twist, that has imported racism into Seychelles, and advised the corrupted gov. you sponsor to do the same.
By invoking racism wherein it does not exist, you have validated your own racist thinking and imported it into Seychelles.
Now you attempt to balme me and MSR for having a racist agenda.
That is like calling Mandela an oppressor so you locked him up on Robin Island.
It is like calling Aun Sun Suu Kyii a danerous Freedom fighter, so the Junta in Burma confines her to residence for years.
It is also like the logic that justifies the breaking of the MSR office, because these guys are smart, and they out smart us.
Well, we walk with our brains , not our files in hand.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
Christopher Gill
Oh get a hold of your ego and stop comparing yourself to Mandela and Aun Sun Suu Kyii, you are as much like them as a toad is to a handsome prince.
ReplyDeleteYou remain silent on gated communities in America and vagrancy laws. You ignore all inclusive resorts where staff must wear badge.
If there is incident of racism or discrimination in Eden Island we can deal with it. What you have quoted is not racism, get real!
As for bigotry and racism I agree majority Seselwa have no thought or mindset. But MSR supporters have this mindset, even if many are overseas living in country where such attitude is not accepted. And they try to exploit peoples hardship to revive old bigotry and racism from colonial and slavery days. For proof I refer you to your own blogs and social network sites, the words are too dispicable to repeat.
SESEL POU SESELWA, PA POU BIGOTWA KI APEL ZOT LEKOR RASINWA.
The problem is even when they walk with our brains they still cannot think or put into practice .it was MSR whixch proposed use one outter island as rehab for criminlas that is what Pp is doing,but is Pp doing as it should_,
ReplyDeleteSesel pou seselwa .
Jeanne D'Arc
Twister,
ReplyDeleteI clearly said. When Eden Island development purchased the 99 year Eden island it had no beaches or waterways. Those were built by Eden Island development within the area they had purchased. If I buy land on the coast and create a channel to go inland through its boundaries ahave i no right to stop people accessing it.
Jeanne darc. Yes Eden Island was paid for by tax payers money for which Eden Island development purchased a 99 year lease. same as Gondwana has down at providence or IOT has at the fishing port and all other foreign owned buisnesses built on reclaimed land. All land reclaimed with Taxpayers Money. Why does Twister Gill not write about them.
Twister How many Seselwa Nwar Koman Blan go to Eden Island Boardwalk Bar or other Restaurants on the island. They do not wear a badge with their picture. Surely if it was an apartheid Island they would be barred. Also for your information the Marina is Seychellois owned. They do not allow everyone to use their jetties without paying although sitting in the ocean. Are you going to call them racist
Twister
ReplyDeleteYou said purcahse,for how devaluated rupee? You meant gifted to a foreigner like La misere was gifted to Khalifa. Yes it didnot have beaches however since the island was sponsor by tax payers money,it is just to say then that it belong to the people who paid and built it ,thus in this case it is Seychellois not South Africans.
Jeanne D'Arc
Twister From Eden Island-
ReplyDeleteThe overall scheme has a separatist tone to it. Hence my personal distaste for Eden Island. It has an artificial ambiance about it.
Secondly, there will be many local interest taking up Eden Island bit by bit, simply because it will not succeed on the merit of its Project memorandum. Vijay hacking out the commercial complex under Heegar's nose is one example. There will be others to follow. However, in no sense is it Heegar's intention to include these players, they are trust upon Eden by market forces, and reality.
The deal made for the illegal apartment pool under Eden Managment now sanctioned by PL is another example.
Now, back to your water ways and beach scam, I uncovered in an article.
Even if you create a beach and water way, it cannot belong to you. We have a highwater mark law in Seychelles, and 10 meters from the highwater mark is public access and public property. It cannot be sold nor beaconed.
I only ask how did Patrick La Blache who works at Lands, and knows the law, signed over these public assets to the Eden Island Group?
But we in MSR who are not just overseas, but in Seychelles well dug in, know the details, and we will rectify them at the right time.
Your Racism arguments from colonial and slavery days, only show that you are the racist,.not myself, or any MSR supporter.
Answer the question: "Who are we racist towards as you hint?"
Question: Is it racist in your mind that someone is smart enough to uncover your scams? Does that offend you?
When Eden Island did not pay stamp duty worth Rs. 35 Million, is it racist to you to raise that subject?
When Eden Island pays for its lease from actual sales of apartments only at 17.5% of the sale, is it Racist to mention that soft deal?
Finally, I am not Mandela, or Aun Suun Su Kyi. I am Christopher Gill. These great people do dwarf me. But there life examples and experiences, show us all the difference between right and wrong. The value of honesty and human decency over corruption, graft and indivisual opportunism.
When we see those good values, and choose them over the other lower values, we are all better for it. Our country improves aswell, it is that, which will give our people a better life, not a badge to the Boardwalk to Eden Island.
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
I think we are making some progress in the psychotherapy of Christopher. He is diagnose jealous and sulking.
ReplyDeleteHe sees an affluent gated community in Eden Island which he cannot be part of. His mother cannot sleep her way in for him and he is too ugly to sleep his way in and too poor to buy his way in.
Of course he have nostalgia for the good old days when US Tracking Station was here and he was top-part by virtue of his mother liaisons.
Christopher that tree the old man want to tie his boat on Praslin. The one you deny him. It was not less than 10 meters from the highwater mark?
Ouch! thats a low shot, no need for that. lol funny though!
ReplyDeleteYes Christopher when we see those good values, and choose them over the other lower values, we are all better for it. Our country improves as well, it is that, which will give our people a better life, not appealing to fading bigotry and racism.
Unlike you, we are not here to destroy the image of Seselwa by splitting hairs and describing our dirty laundry Twisty.
The fact you are so sensitive of us calling out your tactic shows that you know what we are talking about.
What is written in the MSR creed and what you really mean are
very different but you know Seselwa can read between the lines. And you hope this will make you popular.
OUCH
ReplyDeletePP has already destroyed the reputation of Seychelles not Seselwa Rasin,the destruction of the environment which is important to our tourism industry,Khalifa's bunker at La Misere which can now be seen from Africa,of course khalifa delo kaka,",2,5 billions missing in our coffer while Michel is roaming the world begging in our names,land gifted to foreigners,passports sold to foreigners,etc ,etc ,etc the list is just to long and unless.
Forcing PP to abide by the law and constitution is our ligitimate right as Seychellois.
OUCH, our constitution is the birth certificate of our nation,and it not by hiding your communist ideology and crimes behind Racism that would save your ass from justice,and if what is you want to say is,namely,seychellois should accept all PP crimes and legalize it ,you mistaken,crimes must be punished not legitimize.
Now let us differiate communism with nazism.well in fact there is almost no different except in the names.Both concider human being as object,in both these ideologies their leaders are atheists thus their leaders are concider as God.In both systems Tv,press etc are controlled by the state.Both use torture,intimidation,etc to keep their brutal systems alive.In both communism and nazism leader at the helm of the party are not democratically elected but finger-picked by the politburo.
Same ideology same practices.
Jeanne D'Arc
TWISTOPHER,
ReplyDeleteQuoating ZANNDARK:
"In both systems Tv,press etc are controlled by the state.Both use torture,intimidation,etc to keep their brutal systems alive"
One million dollar question :
According to you is American govt Nazi???? cause they do use Torture intimidation ( IRAK abu graib guantanamo etc°) Is Italian Berlusconi a Nazi cause he controls the press same for little Sarkozy in France...??????
ALI BANANA
Talking about Communist and Nazi leaders Zann Dark ringleader of MSR SAYS.
ReplyDelete"Both concider human being as object..."
What abour MSR when they talk about " FABRIKE"
They dehumanize this person into an object RIGHT!??????
Dehumanization is the process by which members of a group of people assert the "inferiority" of another group through subtle or overt acts or statements.[citation needed] Dehumanization may be directed by an organization (such as a state) or may be the composite of individual sentiments and actions, as with some types of de facto racism. State-organized dehumanization has been directed against perceived racial or ethnic groups, nationalities (or "foreigners" in general), religious groups, genders, minorities of various sexual orientations
ALI BANANA
The government spent US $7 million to reclaim Eden Island but has made $39 million from the investment, which has brought many other benefits to the economy
ReplyDeleteIt is justify since most of them have been fabricated in the sense that they were gifted or sold our nationality by PP.As sovereign country we have immigrantion laws and as any other countries any person who don't follow the rules make themselves illegal and should be dealt with accordingly.Siva is a Fabrik as he has illegally obtained our nationality therefore justice must be done.I understand for PP and his followers what they would like is that majority of Seychellois accept thier illegaly deeds like gifting our land illegally to Khalifa,Russian etc dito to our passports,you know what no democratic society will ever ligitimize illegally and criminality.
ReplyDeletePp should and must be punished for the atrocities and those wether locals or foreigners what ever their names ,titles who benefits from those wicked deeds must face the same faith as PP perpetrators.
And in fact those donkeys to the likes of JAM,FAR etc can be happy that they live in a country like Seychelles,if it was in America they would all probably be executed.
Jeanne D'Arc
Now who sound like a Nazi, eh? A "justified" nazi apparently.
ReplyDeleteDefine "most"? Define "gifted"? Define "sold"? as per our constitution which you claim to respect. Not as per the Twistopher-washed brains.
No wonder Gill must say you don't represent MSR!
Twister Collaborator for Eden Island
ReplyDeleteYou say Eden cost $7 Million to build and Gov. Benefited $39 Million and other benefits indirectly I assume.
This is partially correct and hides the reality of Eden Island in Seychelles for your own purpose.
The $7 Million was at 10% interest. It has not been paid and grace of 7 years to pay it. The interest on the $7 Million is already $7 Million. So that $7 Million is actually $14 Million. In 7 years, when you make the first installment is will be up to$19 Million, eating into your figure of $39 Million. So Eden will have earned you only $20 Million in 7 years in real rental, because you have no interest payments to offset non paid rental fees. Eden Still owes $10 Million since the contract is for $49 Million, not $39 Million.
Additionally, Eden is given hotel license for aprtment pool. No government in its right mind gives one company the key to the Tourism Industry and destroys the Industry by breaking a Project Memorandum, which binds all parties to help it survive. This is not racism it is common sense.
Finally, Eden Island has had concessions that you do not subtract to your revenue figures and you allow it preferential status. To highlight that is not racism, it is a fact of our reality.
In reality, Eden has been given such a soft deal, one needs to ask who is really behind Heegar, the Communist Junta Bosses like Rene and Michel and Savy Brothers, I presume?
Answer that Collaborator who sells our patrimony.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
I do respect the constitution,like the majority of Seychellois,on the the over hand it is also true, by doing so , the people who abide by the law has allowed PP to pervert the law and impose its dictation of use.
ReplyDeleteTikolor,this is freedom of speech ,we could argue,agree,disagree,justify and so on,you have the choice. In Communism you cannot do that ,for in communism the dear leader dictates and decides for you,becuase he think that he got the DNA and brain power to rule, and the majority of the population are marons who cannot do something for their country.He is so convinced that he is a living God and permit himself to do whatever he wants,that he went on to distribute our patrimony to foreigners for one devaluated rupee,Tikolor.
Jeanne D'Arc
Well well well you say this is freedom of speech, but in what system? Abu Hamza system.
ReplyDeleteIn democracy freedom of speech ends where the rights of others begins. Like when you incite bigotry and racism to disenfranchise citizen.
Hey Twistoper, now the $39 million is that present value or nominal? Answer that whiz kid and then stack your numbers again.
ReplyDeleteIllegality is not a right it is a criminal act against norms established by society.Only communists believes going against the constitution and rule of law is a right and that becuase nobody ever challenge their wicked acts, but for freedom loving people it is not.
ReplyDeletePp communist party is trying it best using all kinds of intimidating tactics shut up or to label anyone that oppose them as racists,but the true is nobody listen to PP, Seychellois people know those communists too well ,they arenobody than the same crooks who used Ak47 to robbed their freedom and told them it was to leberate them from foriegn occupation instead they turned the country into a communist state.
When i say Ramadoss , Siva are illegal citizen i say so becuase they both optained our passports illegally.This is not disfranchising a citizen they are simply fake citizens.And if you do not agree with or donot believe me ,ask Ramadoss to provideyou with his familly tree you will find out that he has no relative or ancestor in this country but rather in calcuta India.I guess India is a sovereign nation and Seychelles is not a colony or territory of India,or is it Tikolor that you want us to accept the idea that Ramadoss is a Rasin seychellois ?
Bigotry is what Pp believes in,that is why it cannot accept criticism and is doing everything to impede the registration of MSR,or unable to accept the freedom of assembly,free speeches,etc.
Have someone ever forbide you from expressing yourself on this blog Tikolor ?No.
Jeanne D'Arc
Yes we can see why Christopher must say you are not views of MSR. Just keep talking dear, let it all come out... you are the best view into the soul of the green eye monster
ReplyDeleteIf illigality exist it can be removed by executive review or judicial review.
The fact MSR need to change the constitution to make some derogatory classification for ALL naturalised citizens, this shows they cannot call it illegal.
Maybe its not what you like by your nature as a racist and a bigot, but its not illegal. What you propose...that is illegal and against the norms in DEMOCRACY!
Reply to Twister Collaborator for Eden Island-
ReplyDeleteThe $39 Million is lease payments, your nominal value point is rubbish.
We only take PL word for it that it has been paid. Now you produce the reciepts to show that it has.
Eden still owes $10 Million in payments. Its new loan from PTA of $10 Million could pay that, but it will have to spread that $10 Million on construction of villas, it hopes to sell to pay Vijay, and buy a $10 Million DESALINATION plant to ensure there is water on Eden Island, according to PUC.
Now with a sanctioned illegal hotel pool, ask how much capital flight will leave Seychelles in revenue?
First time buyers of Eden will not buy into a second unit, they will want to cut and run if they can.
I would not rush to call Christopher Gill a whiz kid. He is approaching 50. Your suggestion only highlights your own bigotry which you accuse myself and MSR of.
It does not take brains to unveil the Truth, just a little courage.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
Christopher Gill
I reply to Bigotwa Collaborator.
ReplyDeleteBigotwa says, "Freedom of Speech and Expression ends where the rights of others being".
This is a very revealing statement.
It shows how half educated Bigotwa is. Because he is leadership material for the PL, it is highly dangerous for Seychelles.
The generalized concept of one's rights stop where another's right begins refers/ applies to property, movable and immovable and the bodily person. It is not that same standard or rule to beliefs, ideas, expression, or speech.
Speech is controlled by laws of Defamation, Libel and Slander.
There is no common law rule for control of "beliefs" in modern democracies. The word Democracy is closely knit to the right to hold any beliefs. Why? beliefs are an integral part of humanity, whether they are good or bad, Government is not the judge, the people are the judge.
Historically, Germany out lawed Neo NAZI as a precondition to joining the world of free nations after WWII.They had good reason to do so, since they had to cleanse the conscious of an entire generation after mudering over 30 million people.
Collaborators are running out of arguments to prop up there failed regime.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
Christopher Gill
Looks like someone suffer from 3 degree burns to the brain.
ReplyDeleteThe generalized concept of one's rights stop where another's right begins refers/ applies to property, movable and immovable and the bodily person....... AND CITIZENSHIP.
One can understand for somebody like you with a pocketful of citizenship it seems like just another bit of paper.
But for patriotic Seychelles citizens it is a very real part of their bodily person.
SESEL POU SESELWA PA POU BIGOTWA KI APEL ZOT LEKOR RASINWA
Additional Comment To Patrick X-
ReplyDeleteMSR policy is not based on Xenophobia. The Manifesto of MSR is based on love for Seychelles, and Seselwa Rasin place in their country, recognized by the United Nations.
Everyone that signs up to MSR has a Manifesto. Those are their beliefs in relation to MSR.
However, MSR is open to new ideas and will debate them as they arise.
If someone is Racist or Xenophobic and has signed up to MSR, those additional individual beliefs, should rightly be attributed to that individual, not to MSR.
We know there are many confirmed Racists in SPPF and SNP. That is not a secret.
I imagine many organizations have Racist elements, but the Party, MSR does not advocate or promote Racism.
In fact, I believe MSR should in the Seychellois tradition, denounce racism where ever it may surface as a policy.
As for the individual rantings and ravings on a blog, I have seen comments from many people across the board, calling everyone every name in the book.
I have asked always, that we keep the comments civil base don Truth. But that is what I can do.The rest is up to the viewers themselves, afterall they are all adults.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
100 immigrants per year refer to those that apply for naturalization under GOP, likely.
ReplyDeleteIt does not apply to those that buy passports overseas or Mafia friends that come through the door here and there does it?
The compounded effect of even 100 per year, is astounding.
Obviously the person that thinks that is reasonable also thinks a Rs. 30,000,000.00 is reasonable, as a Rs. 12,000,000.00 is reasonable as pensions for politicians that failed Seychelles.
The problem exposed, is that some Seychellois think it is ok to sell our Patrimony 100 passports at a time.
Even 10 at a time or even 1 at a time, it is not acceptable.
Our patrimony is not for sale.
Our citizenship is not for sale.
Our dignity is not for sale, though PL and SNP have tried to sell it, we are reclaiming it!
SESEL POU SESELWA!
i quote what was said by one of your supporters on starblog a few months ago:
ReplyDelete" can you imagine what would happen if we don't control those pests, they would outnumber us in the blink of an eye."
Now would you Christopher say that this comment is racist?????
Your supporter was talking about the indian community........
Did you condemn this racist statement or you condoned ?
Waiting for your answer.....
Exocet 1 - Compounding effect! There we have it official confirmation MSR deals with massive exageration to put fear in people and raise bigoted feelings. E.g. The compunding effect of one bacteria is exponential in 2 weeks it can cover the moon. With MSR theory One Seselwa Ranns-Inn can take over the United States of America eventually. That is a stupid argument which reduces people to numbers.Part of a dehumanising brainwashing programme.
ReplyDeleteExocet 2 - Yes overseas sold passports is a different kettle of fish. Its only about external relations, not internal politics. They are hardly likely to vote or draw state benefits are they?
Exocet 3 - Mafia? Well if there is anything illegal it can be dealt with by judicial or executive review.
Exocet 4 - United Nations recognises CITIZENS of the Republic of Seychelles including immigrants naturalised. United Nations DOES NOT recognise anything called "Rasin" and definitely not as indigenous protected native tribe.
Battleship Gill has been sunk!
SESEL POU SESELWA PA POU BIGOTWA KI APEL ZOT LEKOR RASINWA!
Reply to "Pests"-
ReplyDeleteAnswer to your question: No.
The use of term "pest" is not racist nor offensive in the context of KREOL, which though we write in English, we think in KREOL.
Example- SNP call themselves KARYA, is that Racist? If so, are they racist towards their supporters?
Example- SPPF call themselves GOLAN.
Is that Racist? If so, are they racist towards their supporters and Gran Golan, there leader?
I should think not. There is no racism in Seychellois thinking.
What is happening to your train of thought is that you are fighting the acceptance of intellectual defeat and you cannot accept it.
As Rene knows, once someone has intellectually defeated you on the political field, it is only a matter of time before you lose power, because intellectual defeat will translate into lose of confidence, which PL is facing under Michel.
Hence Rene's haggling with Michel over MSR. Rene knows, that even with all of Khalifa's money and all of Eden Islands apartments and villas on sale, MSR will defeat Michel and PL. Rene knows it is a question of time, not if, !
You too " Pest " defender have been defeated hence you cling to the Race straw as your last straw, but it is a weak, weak straw, especialllly since, you have not and cannot Identify which Race, MSR is racist towards as you weakly assert.
Sometimes you even jump to Religion in desperation, MSR has BAHAI, Catholics, Born Agains, Protestants, Hindu, Muslims, non believers, so even your straws are slipping from your hands.
SESEL POU SESELWA!
And for sure Gill cannot bring himself to condemn bigots and racists. Instead he offers more and more ludicrous excuses for them. So PESTS is KREOLE thinking is it?
ReplyDeleteWe wait with bated breath for your next explanation for the statement "WE MUST EXTERMINATE THESE PEST".
Pray Messiah Gill, what is the KREOLE thinking for EXTERMINATE?
SESEL POu SESELWA PAS POU BIGOTWA KI APEL ZOT LEKOR RANNS-INN-VWAR
ReplyDeleteGill what people call themselves is different to what you call others with venom and malice.
ReplyDeleteE.g Fifty Cents call himself and his friends nigger, this is very different to when KKK call them nigger. Get it?
Exellent, profound and high impact politics here that has the potential to shape democracy in the seychelles beyond was is currently weakly and poorly excericised here in this country..
ReplyDeleteThe bottom line is that we want to have fair and legitimate elections and this needs external pressure and nothing less.In the end, as I have mentioned earlier we should view this exclusion not as a barrier but really as an opportunity to longer term goals.
Keep it up
ID1
Au contraire, Stronger democracy at the cost of our moral compass?
ReplyDeleteHmmmmm not a problem for some if a moral compass is optional, or dispensable based on circumstance.
Ironically the bigotry demonstrated by MSR folks has only added legitamacy to the argument that we must reform slowly.
IDI A
I would be interested to know how to define and practice your
ReplyDeletemorality in this case?
How does your morality compare and relates to other countries other than those that depend on charity aid,loans, grants and a hell of a lot of debt clearance....
ID1
Look to Mandela for inspiration on how you can effect change from inside with your moral compass intact!
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